Monday, February 26, 2007

Maybe I'm a Defeatist

Joseph Lieberman, a bronchial mush-mouth of a man, the sort of power-mad mediocrity who can make an old bar Mitzvah like myself pull down the moldy copy of The Protocols and think, "Hey, maybe there's something to this," has once again self-plagiarized in the pages of The Wall Street Tattler, penning another self-same article asking for more patience, more national reticence, and a few more liters of Iraqi blood to bake into the national matzoh. But seriously. No, that was seriously.

Glenn Greenwald, almost as predictable in his dry outrage as Joeseph Free-Man in his mild-mannered death cultism, is on the case. Comme d'habitude, his analysis is meticulous, well-structured, cogent, responsible, researched, and wrong. At some length:

Many Americans believed before that we did have an effective strategy designed to preserve security in Iraq and that this strategy was working because people like Joe Lieberman assured them that this was true. Yet now he is claiming that everything has changed in Iraq because, for the first time, we have a strategy for preserving security. The logical conclusion from assembling his own statements is that the assurances he gave in the past were simple lies.

It's one thing for people like Joe Lieberman to have spent almost a full year prior to the invasion spewing one falsehood after the next about the state of Iraq's military capabilities, its relationship to Al-Qaeda, and the likely effects of our invasion. But the absolute deceit of the American people by the Joe Liebermans in this country extends -- in both duration and substance -- far beyond merely those pre-war claims.

George Bush was re-elected, and Americans tolerated the occupation of Iraq long after it was clear that things had gone terribly awry, because the Joe Liebermans in our country continuously lied about what was taking place there, falsely assuring Americans that things were going well, that we were on the precipice of success, that the press accounts of the violence and chaos there were fiction and were merely the by-product of a politically biased media seeking to embarrass the President by concealing the great progress we were making -- progress which Lieberman insisted he witnessed himself during his visit.
To bump into these paragraphs after the dull exposition devoted to Liebraman's recycled prose is to experience in some slight way the feeling of waking up from anesthesia with the surgeon still jiggling your heart in his hand. Here is my question:

What is the source of this bottomless confidence in the essential goodness of "Americans" or "many Americans," or "the American people"; on what basis do we arrive at this claim that but for the lies told to them by their less-than-noble, less-than-honest patriarchs, these American people would rise up in recognition of their current transgressions and past sins, retreat, and resolve not to repeat the shameful crimes of empire, forever and ever, on earth as it is in heaven, hallelujah, amen?

Because it is not at all obvious to me that Americans, such as they are, give one good goddamn or one high-flying fuck about a "strategy designed to preserve security in Iraq." "Security in Iraq" is not their concern. "Security in America" is their concern--that's why they acquiesce with nary a whimper to every security-vs.-liberty argument put forward by their governors (to Greenwald's eternal chagrin and confusion), and that is why they support wars to kill the wogs who killed the World Trade Center. That there are many varieites of wogs, and that none of the wogs currently involved in our conflict participated in "the events of 9/11," and that within worldwide woggery there is currently a vast, vicious religious war--none of these things occur to "many Americans." Many Americans reelected George W. Bush and "tolerated the occupation of Iraq" because it accorded with their narrow, slack-jawed, country-music ideology of "let's roll." For good measure, George W. Bush indulged them in their fears of faggots, niggers, and spics. That is why he was elected. For the same reason every crass, pseudo-bumpkin autocrat gets himself elected: by recognizing that nativism, resentment, fear, and racism are the roots of politics; by governing with a program designed to deepen the rot and cause such resentments to fester.

If tomorrow or the next day, George W. Bush decides to begin a campaign against Iran, and it seems icreasingly near and certainly inevitable, then the cable news networks will go back to Crisis:Iran subtitles, the generals will come back on to babble about strategy, the yellow-ribbon magnets will reassert themselves, the nominal opposition will fall back in line, the "failure" in Iraq will fade from the front of our collective consciousness, and however much the libbloggers cry that the dauphin's poll ratings remain mired below 40%, not one person who matters will pay them no nevermind. If Israel, Dog help us, gets involved, then the libbloggers will simply remain conspicuously (or inconspicuously) silent.

I have been asked a number of times why it is that I don't use what meager skills I have to propose a positive program to rectify our national shames and shortcomings. Why don't I offer some way "to change it?" Why don't I "do something?" Why aren't I "productive?" I've given plenty of answers, some truer than others. But here is a more honest answer, the most honest I can give: I'm not especially convinced that Americans, many Americans, the American people, or America deserve anything other than what they're about to get. To put it another way: I'm not an evangelist about anything, and I'm not of the opinion than everyone can or should be saved.

30 comments:

Richard said...

Yes, lawd! Tell it brother.

Justin said...

Greenwald is making a career out of pretending that Dubya is some crazy anomaly of our system.

Leonard said...

On the matter of what Americans deserve, I follow this argument I first heard from David Friedman.

Note that in democracy, almost none of the good effects of a law will redound to the benefit of a lawmaker. Rather, good laws, by their nature, affect everyone positively. By contrast, there are many ways of creating a law that can be exploited by lawmakers to help themselves. What they need are votes, and money, and their time-preference is very high due to the recurrent nature of election. Thus there is always the temptation to do things which are bad in the long run but which look good in the short run. And there is the temptation to sell privilege, and to create political classes dependent on the state as a base of support.

In economics terms: in democracy, good law is a public good. As is true of any public good, good law is therefore underproduced. In democracy, bad law -- privilege -- is a private good. Thus, it will be overproduced.

What this means is that in general, people get a government that is worse than what they deserve. The larger the government, the larger the predicted gap will be.

Thus the libertarian preference for devolution of power as far down towards the individual as possible.

Jon said...

Greenwald is trying to change minds. If someone had been listening to the various neocon dopes for the past 4 years, it's easier to convince them to switch sides by telling them they've been duped than by telling them they're fundamentally fascists, even if it's the truth.

His biggest obstacle - which he seems completely blind to - is that he preaches to the choir. Anyone who needs to be convinced that Lieberman is a lying hack stopped reading GG long ago. At the same time he doesn't challenge any of the assumptions of his massive liberal audience, so his direct influence is probably about 1/10th what he thinks it is. His main benefit is providing ammunition and legwork for others, by digging up just the right 20/20 hindsight quote. That and agitation.

If it helps prevent war with Iran it's worth it, even if Americans don't "deserve" it.

I'd say most of the people who just want to kill wogs are in the BTKWB demographic, which every nation has, and no pundit is going to reach. Greenwald's a partisan; he's going for the ever-persuadable center. We can work on convincing the center to reject any and all foreign intervention once they stop buying PNAC. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Justin said...

Jon,
Glenn's flaw is that he offers a false solution to a false problem.

The false solution is to counter the likes and lies of Joe Lieberman, Bill Kristol, etc. and to bring this big boat we call USS America back on course.

The false problem is George Bush, or more accurately the false historical narrative that holds to the idea that Bush has seized control of the wheel and radically departed from what came before.

I suspect that Glenn isn't going for the ever-persuadable center, it's the brass ring he is after.

IOZ said...

Justin's right. "The ever-persuadable center" is itself a fiction. Didion's Political Fictions, roundly criticized by the complacent center for sound out-of-date now that 9/11 changed everything, is the superior primer on the meaning of "center" or "swing voter" or "independent" in politics.

Moloch-Agonistes said...

I'm with you needless to say on Greenwald and Lieberman, but re program, you're protesting way too much. Who the fuck cares if America is Sodom, Gemorrah, late Weimar Thuringia and a colony of diaper fetishists all in one convenient package? You're on the planet for 76 +/- 20 years; like all Homo sapiens you have a vision of what kind of community you want to live in; the place you happen to inhabit is pretty fucked up and stupid; and you've opened up you notebooks so other people can see your scribbles.

So what kind of bullshit is this, that you "don't want to evangelize." Who's looking to be evangelized? Question is not "what should we do to improve America," and the question is not "How should we live," the question is, "How do you want to live? Having determined that Marty Peretz and Dinish D'Souza are, indeed, idiots and that the American experiment is over isn't that the natural order of business?

Prophetic outrage is OK for prophets, but even they eventually get to their vision of the world to come. Do you have an idea or don't you? And spare me John Fucking Rawls, please!

IOZ said...

Oh my, Moloch--Isn't it obvious? Find a reasonable scam for money. Get a house in a neighborhood you like. Give some money to a private charity or two. Support your local farmers. Take some vacations while the travelin' is still cheap. Drink some wine. Have a scotch. Visit the theater. Learn to play an instrument. Read some poetry. Make love to your loved one. Scribble for the amusement and entertainment of the few dozen people who care for that sort of thing.

It isn't living that I'm tired of.

Moloch-Agonistes said...

Sounds a lot like late Weimar Thuringia. Let me rephrase myself: how do you want to live with other people?

It's not that you're required to submit a ten point platform, I just that the vision you've expressed here (and yes, it does confirm certain suspicions of mine) presupposes the very corrupt society that you spend so much time railing against. Isn't that a moral problem?

Ashley said...

defeatism
1. the attitude that defeat is inevitable; pessimism; treason.
2. the attitude that defeat is inevitable; realism; rationality.

Brian said...

The answer is quite simple, actually: small, divided government with decisions generally made locally. It's messy and chaotic and may not even be as prosperous, but it also haasn't typically rainted hundreds of tons of depleted uranium on peoples 5,000 miles away-and it definitely doesn't have 700 military bases spread around the world. Small is Beautiful. The Articles of Confederation folks were right. :)

AlanSmithee said...

So you don't have a reason why you don't care. So I should have a reason why I do?

frijoles junior said...

Moloch,

You and IOZ, together with me and probably most of the regular visitors here would no doubt agree that the American political system is an abomination. Does it necessarily follow that those of us who live aware of this must DO something to combat it?

Gandhi said to live the change you wish to see. Drinks and a show might or might not be a revolutionary agenda, but a world of art-loving dilettantes seems more appealing by far to me than one full of marching, slogans and strife.

I say, "Yes! The country is broken, yet I will live my life as I see fit despite it, come what may." Good luck with the whole making a difference thing, though.

Anonymous said...

You know.....
those drinks and a show, and the car driven to the show, and the airplane used to deliver the little slice of lemon so that you can enjoy your cuba libre in December, and the liberal arts training of the cute girl singing in the chorus, and the liberal arts training of the depressed writer sweeping up the trash in the corner were all paid for and provided by the mass industrial-military-always-seeking-a-new-enemy-so-we-can-sell-people-weapons monolith that you spend so much time complaining about.

You spend lots of time explaining how America's misdeeds are largely responspible for the perpetuation of our system of mass consumption, has it ever occurred to you that it might be worth it? I for one find a cocktail mixed without an appropriate garnish to be unbearably tasteless.

YF

Scruggs said...

If someone only wants to write for a few dozen people, that's great as far as I'm concerned. "Armchair activists" who cut a check for the NLG, ACLU or EFF? Great too. People who simply refrain from offering direct support to murderers? Love 'em. Honest citizens who pay cash for my friends' art, or give a hand up to their own friends in times of need are the finest, most decent folks I could ask for. May the appropriate deities smile on and bless the people who want to do a whole lot more. If one can help them too, in addition to asking for them to be blessed, that's wonderful. The hardcore activists of my acquaintance have mainly been brutally punished for their efforts, burnt out, ripped off and left to nurse their wounds on the slag heap.

It takes all kinds to get a society anywhere. Personally, I think we're working on the pre-political for a time when serious discussions that have impact will become possible.

jayarbee said...

IOZ: I'm not of the opinion that everyone can or should be saved.

Well, I am. If you're not, then you should be happy with the current system, as taking pains not to save everyone--in order to pamper a few--is what we've always done.

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Anonymous said...

Hey IOZ,

I love your writing I've been addicted to this blog for some time now. Even though your prose is stylish and entertaining, I feel that I learn a lot here.

Nevertheless, I think you went a little overboard on toying with the anti-semitism in this post.

Look, there are some people who supported the war at the outset and they were, at best, dupes. Anyone who persisted in their support of the war after the WMD thing was shown to be absolute bullshit and our nation-building Promethean gift of democracy garbage proved to be so many rotten lies is just a moron, guilty of a sort of criminal level of stupidity. (Indeed at the top official levels, there are actual crimes.)

So why bring the whole Jew-thing into this? Many war opponents are Jews, too. Those who support the war have that to answer for--and that's plenty.

This talk about baking blood into Matzoh strikes me as ghoulish, ugly, and unproductive.

Again, I really love the blog. Keep it up, minus, you know, the blood libel.

~CK

maximo said...

"why bring the whole jew-thing into this?"

*sigh*

as for the rest of you, fatalism isn't a choice. it's an inevitability.

IOZ said...

Heya, CK, thanks for droppin' in. Two items: One: Having been called before the Torah, I will make any Jew jokes I like--it is my chosen right as a chosen person; Two: The way to win friends around here is to avoid "unproductive" as a descriptive of anything.

To the rest of younz: You are the best commenters ever, but I'm getting the sense from some of the comments in this thread that some of you were getting a wee bit too comfortable. For what that's worth, lovers.

See Maximo Re: Fatalism above.

Leonard said...

CK: whereas the discussion of wogs, faggots, niggers, and spics was all in good fun?

Taste is strange. I found the blood libel, clearly transformed from its ordinary context, clever and funny.

'Course I also thought the bits about wogs, etc were funny. (Guess I'm a mean person.) But it doesn't take a genius to make fun of other people by turning them into hand puppets and making them say vile things. It's funny, but it's obvious enough. It does take a genius to remap the blood libel like that.

Well, not really genius, but you know what I mean.

maximo said...

also, we need more wimin in these parts.

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Larry M said...

Long time, no comment. I was drawn back because there is something about this post that bothered me a LOT, that was not just more of the same old dispute that I had here a month or so ago.

That dispute - or a big part of it - was about the whole fatalism thing. I have no desire to revisit that dispute as a general matter. I still don't agree with the Maximo approach as set forth above, but it is a powerful argument.

But the latest IOZ justification for inaction, "I'm not especially convinced that Americans, many Americans, the American people, or America deserve anything other than what they're about to get ... I'm not of the opinion than everyone can or should be saved," when you think about it, contains a pretty appalling assumption. Now one may well agree that some people (i.e., citizens of these United States) don't deserve saving. It's not THAT opinion that I think is appalling. Heck, increasingly I even agree with it.

But, as IOZ has on other occassions properly reminded us, it's not the United States that suffers most from these little adventures. It's our victims. As much as I think that attacking Iran will be a disaster for the United States, it's gonna be MUCH worse for the people of Iran, and, most likely, the rest of the Moslem world.

And I find it a bit offensive for someone to imply that THOSE people don't deserve saving.

Of course I know that that isn't what IOZ meant. But the fact that he could say what he did in this post without considering the victims - well, that reminded me very much of Peter Beinart's piece which was so rightly mocked a few posts back.

Now, all that being said, there are plenty of OTHER reasons why one could reasonably be fatalistic about all of this. But please, let's not lose sight of the fact that stopping Armeggedon would not just save undeserving United States citizens, but might also save a few million residents of the middle east.

Maybe we can't do that. Maybe we shouldn't even try. But let's not pretend that America is or should be the only or even primary focus of concern.

And spare me for once the "evil resulting from trying to do good" argument. It's VERY well taken in the right context, but hardly applies to trying to stop a war of aggression.

AlanSmithee said...

Larry,

THANKSRALPH!

Ashley said...

…but hardly applies to trying to stop a war of aggression.

I know how we can do that. We just vote Democrat and the wars will stop.

Larry M said...

Ashley,

Sigh. I know it's too much to expect people to respond to my comment to THIS thread, as opposed to comments from more than a month ago, but if you are going to do that, at least respond to what I wrote then.

I'm under few if any illusions about the Democrats. My defenses of Democrats have been limited, qualified, and lukewarm at best. Maybe (hell, probably) I am naive in thinking that electing Obama (say) instead of Clinton might at least make a small difference around the margins. But that's neither here nor there in terms of Iran, which (most likely) is going to be attacked long before the next election. Obviously, then, voting for ANYONE isn't the answer to THAT problem. But that doesn't mean that there aren't options. Arthur Silber recently outlined a number of them on his blog. One can certainly take the position that such actions are futile, but let's not pretend that a call to "do something" automatically means "voting for a Democrat." Especially when I said no such thing.

And, come to think of it, even more especially when I limited my criticism in this thread to one very specific rationale for inaction.

But, despite clear headedness regarding the central issue of the day, and some very strong posts by our host (which is why I keep reading), straw men arguments and other types of logical fallicies are standard proceedure in the comments section of this blog. Which is why I mostly absent myself from same.

Rowan said...

I'd like to think that Ashley's comment was facetious irony.

My take on this fatalism business? Knowledge and action are not so different that writing a blog may not be the best way for someone who is a good writer to influence events as best as they are able. What, should we go to ANSWER protests?

AlanSmithee said...

Since you mentioned...

On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now!

http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?id=8107

Oh, and Lar,

THANKSRALPH!

ms_xeno said...

maximo:

also, we need more wimin in these parts.

[raises hand]

The "ms" does is not shorthand for "Microsoft," for whatever that's worth.

Punish Scruggs. He sent me over here.