Saturday, November 10, 2007

Econ

This seems like a bizarre way to argue. It's true, obviously, that the country was much more prosperous in 1912 than it had been in 1790, but it's grown far more prosperous still in the dread income tax era. Were the horse-and-buggy days really good enough for Mitchell? After all, without the need for paved roads we were able to keep the tax burden low, low, low. The near-total absence of useful medical technologies helped keep health care expenses low. And with the population ill-educated by contemporary standards and wage rates much lower than they are today, it was easy to run a school system on the cheap.

-Yglesias, in way, way, way over his head
Speaking of bizarre ways to argue. Less than 3% of the federal budget is spent on transportation, and the paving and maintenance of roads is up to states and municipalities. Medicine has gotten more expensive, in part due to advances in technology and the lengthening of lifespans, but come on. Ever seen the coding department in a hospital? Health care in America is so goddamn expensive in equal part due to spiraling administrative costs. As liberals are fond of pointing out--correctly, I should add, just so as to prove to younz that I'm no economic dogmatist--nationalized health systems in the EU spend substantially less per patient and per capita than does the "mixed" American system, with identical or superior health outcomes. As for education, it doesn't cost much anyway. Again, less than 3% of the federal budget. Most education is paid for by local property taxes. Bada bing, bada boom. You know what costs a lot of money, Matt? War and the service on debt incurred in pursuit of war. Man. It's almost as if giving up our overseas empire and foreswearing "responding to continencies" in this or that "region" would allow both a major reduction in individual tax burdens and a concurrent increase in spending on national infrastructure and health care and, fuck, education, should one be so inclined.

15 comments:

isys said...

Elegantly stated last sentence although it may be over the head of those who are way, way, way over their heads.

Anonymous said...

Cut the goddamn defense budget in half. If Ron Paul said that, even I would vote for him.
I still can't support Kuchinich though, I mean, he's from Cleveland.

bluestar said...

I love you.

Scruggs said...

"Who Is IOZ? Now interrupting dogmatic narcolepsy too."

I think poor Yglesias was accidently infused with too much tincture of McNamara before he was decanted. The pundit class Bokanovsky Process is far from perfect.

Dave Trowbridge said...

"It's almost as if giving up our overseas empire and foreswearing "responding to continencies"..."

Well, that Depends...

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

JYD said...

yglesias fucking it up bashing mitchell, who fucked it up defending paul.

maybe it would do mitchell some good to read up on our beloved founding fathers' involvement in the whiskey rebellion. which, contra yglesias, had something to do with the ante-paved-road american government fucking over Everyman/farmer-types.

pundits keeping the comedy high, high, high.

Anonymous said...

I should add, just so as to prove to younz

My parents are both from around Harrisburg, and my mom (Steelton) always said "yinz" growing up. Is "younz" the Pittsburgh version of that?

tggp said...

Robin Hanson (best known for advocating that medical spending be cut in half) proposed cutting the defense budget in half here.

I posted Greg Cochran's thoughts on the subject here.

mistah charley, ph.d. said...

war, what is good for?
it's good for business - specifically

the MICFiC - military-industrial-congressional-financial complex

if you haven't yet, do see the DVD

Why We Fight

Anonymous said...

Thanks tggp for that, I thought I had an original idea. Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking that way.

Anonymous said...

War's a hell of a lot cheaper than social security.

YF

IOZ said...

Social security isn't part of the general operating fund. It's got its own dedicated revenue source and doesn't get a yearly allocation out of the federal budget. Apples and oranges.

For the record, I think we ought to get rid of it, but it's not germane to talk about its expense in that regard. If my CFO tells me that I've got to cut the operating costs for my department by a million bucks next year and I turn around and tell her why should I, it's not as expensive as the $10 million addition to the building, she's not going to explain to me the difference between operating and capital expenses. She's just going to have me fired for being such a dumbass.

hipparchia said...

hospital coding departments? that's just the tip of the iceberg.

hipparchia said...

oh, and thanks for the link. i'd been looking for some clear illustrations on that.

Anonymous said...

We already take FICA revenue and use it to pay for direct expenditures. . . how is that different from taking FICA dollars and using them to pay for tax expenditures? We obviously have no rule that FICA dollars must be spent on providing social security benefits. If you're looking to cut government spending in one area to justify additional expenditures (tax or direct), cutting social security spending provides access to a much larger pie than trimming down the defense budget.

YF