Greenwald's schtick is increasingly terrifying. His neverending epiphany, which arrives each day and without fail, like the rising of the sun--is that, holy shit, the media propogandizes on behalf of the government. (The government, Glenn, not the GOP.) Finding a gloss on some new police-state tactic in Time magazine, of all places, should not shock a man. It's like being surprised at a well-reviewed military parade in Pravda. I mean, not to suggest that the state is only a network of power structures, needless to say, best understood holistically and organically, not as a machine but as an organism, simultaneously divided against itself and unified in the common purpose of survival and growth, capable of mediating internal tensions and disagreements to that point, able to acquire new skills and competencies, adaptive and intelligent, sometimes rational and sometimes reactionary, instinctively but not universally territorial, with some physical centers of great importance and others of vestigial uselessness, a totality of abstract powers ideated and actualized by the collective action of human beings, themselves only the material functionaries of a self-perpetuating, self-referencing, self-defining, self-circumscribing, suprahuman entity. How do you like them fucking apples, Gleen Greenwald? To look at the state of human affairs right now and conclude that the real problem is that people like Joe Klein are willing to swallow a government line, when obviously the very purpose of the entire economic sector for which the Joe Kleins of the world toil is precisely to mold, variate, amplify, and disseminate a very particular kind of information, is to find yourself not only missing the forest for the trees, but the trees for one moldy leaf rotting in a puddle on the lee side of a dank Appalachian hill.
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A couple of slender reeds.
Is it possible that he's having a hard time dealing with the reality that you spell out? Or that his belief that the current system can be changed without doing anything radical and the "Gee whiz, we don't do that in America" shtick are for the benefit of a potential larger audience, who might need a way to get from Time (or Salon) magazine to your assessment of where we're at now?
wow !!
this with the caffeine molecules yet to kick in .
this should be a must read for all those aspiring lit crit / pomo students ..:)
That may have been your best post ever. No, really. Funniest post of the year at least.
Congrats!
l. "How do you like them fucking apples, Gleen Greenwald?"
Glenn, not Gleen. After "fucking apples", spelling counts...
2. Who is this "suprahuman entity"?
3. "sometimes rational".....
Has there been any evidence offered to prove this assertion on this or any other blog?
4. And finally, what IS the real problem and what ought a good man to do about it?
Arthur Silber's article of today: "A Nation on the Edge of the Final Descent (III): Obey or Die"
"The wish for unquestioning, unresisting obedience is coming true in America, more and more each day.
May God help us all."
So.
Choices:
l) Expose Joe Klein et al.
2) Obey
3) Die
4) Wait for God to help us all.
SUNG:
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is...
More for the sake of others than for isys': That list of "choices" certainly does not exhaust the possibilities as far as I myself am concerned. A look at many of my other essays (beginning with the ones linked in that piece) might provide some ideas. (Since I am an atheist and am generally known to be one, I assume -- probably erroneously -- that people realize the fourth choice is entirely meaningless to me. For people who frequent a blog that often focuses on literary issues, many of you appear to be distressingly literal-minded.)
A clue: in ways that are possible to you and that make sense in terms of your personal context, you could try resisting, all the time minimizing the chances of, you know, dying.
Just a thought.
isys, do you ask anyone who presents an opinion within your earshot to present you with solutions, or do you restrict such behavior to anonymous internet dick-waving?
man, the mis-spelling was hilarious.
Gleen Greenwald.
jeez. say it out loud.
Euphonia
"Gleen Greenwald" has been done before, but far less artfully...
Q: What do you call Gleen Greenwald in a Volkswagen?
A: FARFROMTHINKEN
. . . one moldy leaf rotting in a puddle on the lee side of a dank Appalachian hill.
Jars, IOZ, jars. And please, keep them in Tennessee.
Arthur:
I read every word you write. I didn't really think you were waiting for the Big Guy In The Sky to step in and lend a hand...
I'm aware of your suggestions as to what one can/should do. I do them to the extent I can and then some.
Still, the obey or die noose does seem to be getting tighter, as the "Don't tase me, bro" kid found out. You were sympathetic to his retraction, saying you understood his dilemma.
I'm just saying.....it's not like Glenn is doing nothing.
So.
To anonymous: I'm sure you think you made some point. Apparently you find yourself amusing. That makes one of us.
Nice, the sun hurts the tiny bacteria, eh?
Gleen is attacking the process by which we have found ourselves in this Republican nightmare, in Iraq and in Der Homeland. You may have a brain, but there are plenty of people who still think the press is supposed to function as an impartial arbiter and firewall. It may be obvious to you but it certainly is not to a great swath of the population still. These people don't realize that the game has changed and the press no longer functions as a separate check on the government. The media is the corporation is the government. There is no difference.
To poo-poo Klein's monumental dishonesty is dangerous. He is an enabler and disseminator of propaganda for the fascist elements attempting to destroy Democracy.
Gleen is attacking the process by which we have found ourselves in this Republican nightmare, in Iraq and in Der Homeland. You may have a brain, but there are plenty of people who still think the press is supposed to function as an impartial arbiter and firewall. It may be obvious to you but it certainly is not to a great swath of the population still. These people don't realize that the game has changed and the press no longer functions as a separate check on the government. The media is the corporation is the government. There is no difference.
To poo-poo Klein's monumental dishonesty is dangerous. He is an enabler and disseminator of propaganda for the fascist elements attempting to destroy Democracy.
I second the comments of several other commenters; Glenn is preaching to the audience as we sit in the choir. Glenn himself blistered me pretty good with that reality when I commented similarly on Salon regarding another of his posts a few months ago. He has a point; how many of us have a subscription to TIME, or even read it if there's a copy of Highlights underneath it in the dentist's waiting room? Nor do I think he's wasting his time; it's not hard to imagine that any number of casual callers at Salon do actually read TIME and will actually benefit from Glenn's expose of that magazine's willful bias.
"it's not hard to imagine that any number of casual callers at Salon do actually read TIME and will actually benefit from Glenn's expose of that magazine's willful bias."
... and then do what?
Greenwald has taken 3 years to come close to admitting that his vaunted noble and saintly Democrats are as pathetically corrupted and as wilfully mendacious as those terrible, awful Rethugs.
During that time, how many people has Greenwald kept in the dark, how many are in his legions of slavering Glennophilic parrots and sycophants, who still think that this is all the fault of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?
No, isys. It's not like Greenwald's doing nothing. He's making things worse than they'd be if he did NOTHING.
So I'm proposing that he take a permanent vacation from writing in this field in which he's an ignorant partisan papule-licker, and apologize to his unctuous followers for the years of delusion he has laid on them.
PS: When will he release his third book of stupidity?
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