Saturday, December 29, 2007

Empire Wasted

Bill Kristol is getting a regular Times column, and the intersphere is atwitter. Says Balko:

This would be the same William Kristol who for the last seven years—actually, for his entire life, really—has been wrong about just about everything. Most recently and notably, he’s been wrong to the tune of a few thousand dead U.S. troops, who knows how many dead Iraqis, and what will likely be more than $1 trillion of U.S. tax dollars down the pisser. And he’ll now have the most influential chunk of real estate in journalism from which to trumpet his perpetual wrongness. Makes you wonder, exactly how many major screw-ups does a guy need to make in this town for people to stop taking him seriously? Really. What possible insights could William Kristol have left to fill two columns per week—particularly that aren’t already filling David Brooks’ space on the page?

It also means the roster of Times columnists will now run the full gamut of political opinion—from big government liberals (Dowd, Krugman, Herbert) to big government conservatives (Brooks, Kristol), to big government moderates (Kristof, Friedman). Sadly, I think we’ve reached the point where many people, particularly in journalism, really do believe that this is the fullest possible range of respectable political opinion.
The idea that it matters whether or not Bill Kristol has been right or wrong, that the relevance of observable facts to the world as he describes it has anything to do with his pundiferous existence, is rather quaint. I am not, in any case, entirely convinced that "wrong" is exactly the proper descriptor. It implies, I think, that to some extent Kristol's job involves observing world events, analyzing them through the lenses of politics, economics, culture, and history, and producing insights that allow men with lesser access to information and poorer interpretive abilities to see more clearly. But neither you nor I nor Radley Balko really believes that Bill Kristol sat down and concluded that it was wise and necessary to invade Iraq, say. The necessity of invading Iraq was embedded in the current Zeitgeist of the American empire, and Kristol's task was to provide some more or less publicly palatable ideas about why this inevitable thing was, inevitably, going to happen.

As for how a propagandist came to be hired by the venerable Sulzberger family newsletter, well, the question rather answers itself. Radley is right to note a certain . . . favorably pro-government bent to the Times opinionmaking section. Big government conservatives; big government liberals. I agree with Radley here, but I think he's misnaming the malady. How about something a little more melodious. How about, Imperialists?

20 comments:

Dano said...

Perfect. The final nail has been set .Hammer anyone?

stephanie g said...

This facet of the liberal Democratic bloggers has always amused me. OK, yes, all these people have been wrong on nearly issue. So they should be fired? Bwuh? Where did this idea come from? Where has this ever happened in the last 50 years of U.S. history? Take any catastrophic blunder, small or large, and have the proponents of it ever been fired once their dream has come true? Did the thousands upon thousands of propagandists for, say, the Vietnam war ever get "punished"? Did the blood thirsty lunatics get shamed? No. Why would they? With positive results like that they're too valuable to get rid of. I don't fire the guy who sells the most snake oil just because you complain it doesn't cure your limp dick.

Rojo said...
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Rojo said...

The Old Gray Lady's coloring has always been the gray of battleship, gun iron, and bombs. That, in fact, is why it's the "paper of record."

[...had to fix some unconscionable punctuation errors from the deleted comment above. Why give a delete function, O mighty Blogger, and not an edit one?]

stephanie g said...

Because then people could post stupid shit and edit it after they've been called on it. Although an edit function that only works for five minutes would be good, since I seem to catch errors only after I've hit publish. =(

Crusader AXE of the Lost Causes said...

Ok this is getting really old. The blogspot hobbits are acting a lot like the Typepad Hobbits. Could there be intermarriage? Interbreeding? Could they be the same small, large footed inept creatures scurrying around, getting in the way and generally fucking things up? One wonders. I had written my piece didn't want to sign in the way it decided I must and wham, it was erased...

Anyway, I was going to blog about the grinning Chipmunk and his new gig annoying Maureen Dowd and Nick Kristof when I saw that the French are now banning smoking in public places, and that ended up being discussed over on the Defeatists. Still, the two together make me think that the end times are definitely close and the rapture will be a helluva lot more fascinating than anything the Fundies and Fred Phelps of the world could ever dream up...

Rojo said...

Stephanie, yes but...

I can now do the same with delete.

In fact my last post actually read: "CALL ON PELOSI TO IMPEACH NOW!!!"

thoreau said...

It may be par for the course for and unsurprising such a consistently wrong person to get a cushy gig, but that doesn't mean we can't mock him for his wrongness.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you "The Bill Kristol Facts."

http://highclearing.com/index.php/archives/2007/12/29/7636

-Bill Kristol packed skis for a December vacation in New Zealand.
-Bill Kristol’s SAT score was so low that he would have been better off guessing.
-Bill Kristol tried voting in Florida once, and the chads punched him.
-Bill Kristol bragged that he’d lost his virginity after his girlfriend let him touch her belly button.
-A cop once pulled Bill Kristol over and told him to let Ray Charles drive instead.
-When it snows, Bill Kristol shovels the snow off the grass and puts it in the driveway.
-Bill Kristol actually voted for George W. Bush. Twice.
-Bill Kristol thinks that Chuck Norris could kick Jack Bauer’s ass.
-Bill Kristol once hired Miss Teen South Carolina to be his geography tutor.

Chris E. said...

Times editorial page editor Andy Rosenthal, in defending the Kristol hiring, gave the game away. What's the big deal?, he asked. After all, "we have views on our op-ed page that are as hawkish or more so than Bill."

Though that raises the question: is it really possible to be more hawkish than William Kristol?

It's been entertaining watching some of the libloggers say things like "this is an embarrassment from which the paper of record will not soon recover." Noam Chomsky sells a lot of books - doesn't anybody ever read them?

Duncan said...
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The Promiscuous Reader said...

"Noam Chomsky sells a lot of books - doesn't anybody ever read them?"

Not libloggers! Chomsky is an America-hating, Milosevicz-loving gangster who's like totally stuck in the 70s! Michael Berube, Eric Alterman, and Joe Conason, among many others, agree!

Anonymous said...

Though that raises the question: is it really possible to be more hawkish than William Kristol?

Before Belgium becomes the next Yugoslavia, I think NATO should immediately launch airstrikes on every Walloon facility.

I'd like to see smilin' Billy top that.
-- sglover

Anonymous said...

Noam Chomsky sells a lot of books - doesn't anybody ever read them?

Honestly, it doesn't appear so. I think I remember both Atrios and Digby saying they'd never read anything by him, and of course, you have jagoffs like Andrew Northrup (The Poor Man), Brad from Sadly, No!, Yglesias and Ezra Klein (in addition to the three fuckheads listed above by the promiscuous reader) who supposedly have but apparently didn't learn anything, choosing instead to recycle old debunked myths about Faurisson, Cambodia and Milosevic.

IOZ said...

Chomsky is the son of a medical CEO. You heard it here first.

Duncan said...

Ah, I remember Radley when he was writing for the student newspaper, using his column to endorse the fraternity party running for student government for whose campaign he was also working. (The only way you found that out was that he was quoted as their spokesman in news articles on other pages.) He also attacked the campus glb group for using the "radical" tactic of sidewalk chalking. (Also used by greeks, but that was different.) Our little Radley is all grown up now! And he's what, a "libertarian"? Fancy that.

From what I've seen thanks to links from various blogs, he's actually done some serious, intelligent reporting now and then. But when it comes to ideology, it looks like he's as deep a thinker as he was fourteen years ago.

Anonymous said...

Chomsky is the son of a medical CEO. You heard it here first.

Yeah, but is he a member of the He-Man left?

thoreau said...

Look, it may be that Radley Balko was an idiot in college. Weren't we all, to some extent? In the past few years, though, Radley has done some damn good work on exposing prosecutorial and police misconduct, usually misconduct directed at poor minorities. He's the opposite of whatever frat boy stereotype he may have fit in college.

There are a lot of former frat boys out there. Few of them are doing what Radley is doing.

Radley Acura said...

But neither you nor I nor Radley Balko really believes that Bill Kristol sat down and concluded that it was wise and necessary to invade Iraq, say.

Then why do you suppose Kristol signed the PNAC Manifesto in 1998 arguing just that course of action?

The Promiscuous Reader said...
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duncan said...

Um, thoreau, that was what I said: Balko has "actually done some serious, intelligent reporting now and then." Even honorable reporting. But as IOZ's post shows, his roots in right wing politics still show.

It reminds me of a guy I used to know, raised hard-core Republican but turned liberal Dem in college. He became a reporter and did a lot of good work in smaller newspapers. But out of the local sphere, and despite his hatred of Bush in 2000 (he taught his little son to badmouth Bush in front of the Repub grandparents), he remained a gut-level homophobe and mainstream lib/imperialist. Our friendship ended when he jocularly called me a fan of Osama when I was skeptical of Bush's invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11; like so many liberals, he was all for bombing ragheads, any ragheads, to "defend" our great land.