Monday, January 21, 2008

Push Pauling

Well, Justin Raimondo is, as usual, especially cogent. I'm not sure that Ron Paul, even un-smeared, signifies anything about a broader "libertarian movement," but that's one small quibble. Justin's insight into the character of the Nick Gillespie crowd is dead on. The brief section where he discusses homophobia and homosexuality through the lens of his own queer heterodoxy is especially good and matches my own view on the poverty of that particular charge against Paul. Having whittled down the supposedly racist and homophobic rantings of the notorious newsletters to a few lines written by others, Justin makes a compelling case that Paul is being criticized by self-proclaimed libertarians for his failure to embrace state solutions to social ills: He rejects the Civil Rights Act, ergo he must hate blacks. He somewhere says that AIDS cannot be discussed properly because of its political baggage, a case made previously by no less a leftist than Susan Sontag, not to mention Randy Shilts (as Justin himself notes), and this renders him a Jerry Falwell.

I don't support Ron Paul--nor anyone--for President. Dennis Perrin summarizes that position perfectly well. He says things about abortion and immigration that do smack of the kind of moral statism that I most despise, although many of those comments are tempered by caveats to the effect that these issues are not, in fact, within the purview of the federal government as Paul understands it. That said, the sound of a lot of cossetted Washington hangers-on howling because Ron Paul fails to represent Urban Hipster Libertarianism is thoroughly disgusting. I say that as a faggot urban hipster, too. It reeks of favor-currying and aspirations to acceptability. It stinks of Sistah Soujah. It represents the triangulating rhetoric of go-along moderation that defines our entire class of imperial courtiers. "Court jesters and would-be reformers" in-fucking-deed.

24 comments:

Freiheit said...

Raimondo? Cogent? That's unpossible!

Anonymous said...

Julian Sanchez defends himself.

charlie said...

Reason magazine -- home to the insular, inside-the-beltway circle jerk that masquerades as "cosmopolitan" hipster libertarianism -- currently has an article on its homepage with the following description:
"Barring a miracle, South Carolina will bury the last libertarian-leaning candidate of '08"
Mind you, this being the open-minded, accommodating Reason magazine, the article is about Fred-fucking-Thompson, who apparently passes the libertarian litmus test by saying nice things about federalism every once in awhile.

You see, to these urbane libertarian hipsters, one can call for endless war against poor brown people on the other side of the globe and support holding anyone accused of participating in an act of "terrorism" indefinitely without the right to habeas corpus and still be "libertarian-leaning."

However, have someone write not-so-nice things about fags and minorities in your name 20 years ago? Beyond-the-fucking-pale, man.

This whole Ron Paul "scandal" perfectly demonstrates the desperate desire for respectability on the part of the Cato/Reason folks -- the desire that leads them to shrug off warmongering and torture while purging anyone who doesn't share their fascination with the wonderful world of fonts (have you read Virginia Postrel lately?).

Ron Paul may be the most backwards, intolerant hick to ever live in these here United States, but you know what? He had the guts to oppose the Iraq war from the beginning (when "regime change" became U.S. policy under Clinton) and he continues to denounce the American empire in no uncertain terms, while Reason magazine prattles on about how global warming is a farce and why the U.S. should model its guest-worker program (i.e. permanent Mexican underclass) on the fucking Singapore model.

And some wonder why libertarians are viewed as little more than apologists for big business who smoke pot...

Anonymous said...

So,if not Paul, then who, IOZ? Just kidding.

Seriously though, it's time for a third party, but I say we start one and just lie our fucking asses off about it. We'll be more hawkish than the Republicans and more statist than the Dems could ever dream of. We'll be the political party equivalent of the giant baby monster that devours everything in Akira, only fatter because we're American. It'll be fabulous.

charlie said...

Seriously though, it's time for a third party, but I say we start one and just lie our fucking asses off about it. We'll be more hawkish than the Republicans and more statist than the Dems could ever dream of.

Wait... you haven't heard of the Connecticut for Lieberman party? According to its "founder" Stuart Korchin, "Connecticut for Lieberman is a new political party that carries on what used to be the ideals of the Democratic Party: A liberal approach to domestic issues coupled with a strong commitment to a robust foreign policy. New members who subscribe to this platform are welcome."

Anonymous said...

I'm a lot more disgusted by "neolibertarians" voting to convict a marijuana smuggler, then defending their actions and lashing at their critics than by "paleolibertarians" saying nasty things about MLK in a newsletter 15 years ago. It's a two-ton turd compared to fly specks.

Mr.Fundamental said...

I wouldn't be this today if it weren't for The Agitator. that being said, a national polity is still a fucking national polity. my favorite anarchist (sorry Msr. you're like in the top 5 or so) and all around swell guy Crispin Sartwell is always trying to get on NPR for some reason. I guess that would be the best and most direct way to fuck with the pwog's.

I'd vote for the candidate most likely to tip the balance of power from where it rests today, and I'd take that in any and all directions. let's break the fucking thing.

and fuck it dude, let's go bowling.

Prof. George Edward Challenger said...

So was or wasn't Rep. Dr. Paul trying to appeal to the redneck anti-revenue men libertarians with outright racist, semi-racist comments in his newsletter? How much money did he make doing it?

Prof.

CK said...

Not nearly as much as he will take in with today's money bomb.

strasmangelo jones said...

How, exactly, did the Reason piece "smear" Ron Paul? Do we now define "smear" as "publish factually accurate information about"? If you'd been reading Reason or Reason Online at all for the last couple months, you'd know that the people there had been positively giddy over the Paul campaign up until the TNR piece broke. Nevertheless, those hedonistic urbanites were clearly out to destroy Our Dr. Paul. There's no way they could have printed that story because they found out the content within it was true. Journalists, practicing journalism? Impossible!

Raimondo's attempts to pass off Paul's newsletters as non-racist are laughably embarrassing. That's right, calling MLK a pedophile was just Lew Rockwell's way of complaining about the Civil Rights Act's infringement upon property rights, and anyone who thinks otherwise is obviously a crypto-statist!

I don't support Ron Paul--nor anyone--for President.

Oh, don't we all know it. Which is why, when the Paul newsletters broke, you posted a tu quoque argument as a form of flimsy defense, and why you're now linking to Raimondo's ludicrously paranoid bit of gasping delusionism. But, you know, it's not like you're emotionally invested in Ron Paul or anything. Protest some more for us, please.

Anonymous said...

Well, I always took our host to be a disillusioned pwoggie. Otherwise, why spend so much time kicking the moribund, Schiavo-like body of American liberalism, or railing at the even less-effective liberal bloggers? That kind of energy usually draws on the bitterness of being dramatically let down, from what I've seen (see Perrin, Dennis).

Point being, I thought the weak attempts at defending Ron Paul were just because he's one more useful club for attacking the Democrats, not because IOZ really gives much of a shit for the dude.

IOZ said...

A nerve.

Anonymous said...

Ugh, other anon and strasmangelo, are, as usual, totally fucking tone deaf. What's the point in pointing out the flaws of the conservative machine? It's been done to death by legions of pwoggies before. The reason for the focus on the liberal blaaaaahgosphere is so easy to deduce even mental midgets such as yourselves should be able to at least dimly grasp it. IOZ has been (at least since I started reading him several months ago) attacking our imperialist state and attempting to illustrate just how complicit in its continuation and expansion the supposed opposition party truly is. There's largely no reason to highlight the Republican party's role in it because it's completely obvious to everyone what it is. It has nothing to do with being a disillusioned pwoggie. Sounds to me like somebody is projecting their own issues on to our esteemed host because deep down they know he's right and just can't handle it.

Keep on keepin on, you delusional fucks. We'll leave the light on for ya.

Serafina said...

There's largely no reason to highlight the Republican party's role in it because it's completely obvious to everyone what it is.

False. The liberal blogosphere isn't "everyone."

Raimondo's a buffoon, of course. Strasmangelo and the first Anon are quite right. Raimondo spends a lot of his time trying to prove that Paul and Rockwell are garden-variety conservatives on racial issues rather than "racists"--a distinction without a difference. Does he think racism is limited to those wearing white hoods? Does he truly fail to realize that garden variety conservatives ARE inherently racists, for the most part (as are a lot of mainstream libs)?

It's not racist to talk of "professional blacks" or the "culture of black entitlement"? Gee, that's funny, because no one ever seems to talk of Republican Congressmen from southern states as "professional whites", or consider that white America's reliance on slave labor to make it what it is today has created a "culture of white entitlement." Oh, no--black people are the only ones who feel entitled, while white people are the only ones who *are* entitled. Good to know.

Look, I respect anti-statism, but let's be clear here: Paul isn't going to get elected. And even if by some fluke he did, there's no way he could actually implement this happy little libertarian utopia, even if he really wanted to. He's one of those candidates you vote for to make a statement of principle, not because you think it will do anything concrete.

So if you're making a principle-vote, why not vote for someone who is actually principled across the board, and not just principled about the war and batshit insane about everything else? Why not vote for Dennis Kucinich, or write in the name of a real anarchist or left-libertarian, rather than voting for some weird fan of the Constitution as it was in 1800?

If Ron Paul actually had a chance of stopping the war, I could see why anti-racists might join a coalition supporting him. But he doesn't. So why should I symbolically support this racist misogynist paleocon? I'll cast my symbolic vote in favor of a symbol that's acutally good, thanks.

IOZ said...

Brevity is the soul of wit.

serafina said...

Pfft. You're just saying that because you're a wannabe-sophisticate who wants to keep Real Murkins down, just like those Paul-haters. Justin Raimondo says so.

Anonymous said...

As long as he has a (D) behind his name, Kuchinich is anything is anything but principled.

Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like somebody is projecting their own issues on to our esteemed host because deep down they know he's right and just can't handle it.

Jeez, who took the jelly outta your doughnut?

Actually, dimwit, since I started reading him, oh, a year and a half ago, I've noticed how often the detached, mildly cynical tone turns into - dare I say? - genuine anger over what I would consider trivial things, like, say, Digby's coming out speech, where she made some generic noises about the power of the blogs, rah rah Dems, etc. Too lazy to go link-mining for examples.

You see, fuckstick, I was disillusioned with the "opposition" party while you were still gumming your mom's tit. Old news. Which is why I suggested that our host might have felt that disillusionment more recently, as pointing out the Democrats' uselessness, to me, is like bitching that there's a big bright yellow-orange ball in my eyes every morning when I head to work.

Funny thing is, it's hardly a big deal - I just said that I doubt the man was born an island unto himself, a natural skeptic. This is enough to ruffle your feathers? Are we just a little too invested in believing in our hero, IOZ the Illusion-Slayer, to countenance the notion that he learned the hard way as a youth, like most of us? Grow up, little fella.

puppylander said...

whoa. what up with all the ad hominems?

Anonymous said...

They're fun, you cocksucker!

IOZ said...

You're all dicks. Of course, I love dicks. Ba-dum-bum.

The Wendigo said...

If Raimondo were as good at insight as he is at self-promotion, there might be a reason to tune in to AntiWar.com Radio or land on AntiWar.com's website intentionally.

As anonymous said above,

There's largely no reason to highlight the Republican party's role in it because it's completely obvious to everyone what it is.

Serafina mounts a weak counter, which basically says "everyone" is too broad a term. Okay, serafina. I'll help anonymous without being asked to do so. Here's your answer.

"Everyone" = "everyone" who is in any way inclined to move off the point of supporting the GOP.

And everyone else is irrelevant. You won't convert a person who believes in the GOP in the same way he/she believes in "God." You may as well try to convert Iraqis to western "Christian" materialistic capitalism with bullets and mortar fire.

The malfeasance of the whole GOP is obvious to any fucktard with half a brain.

Where does that leave serafina?

serafina said...

It leaves me disagreeing with you about whether everyone who COULD be persuaded to leave the GOP actually knows about those facts that would prompt them to leave.

I don't think they do. I think Americans are significantly less informed than the average blogosphere resident, so they don't necessarily know just how much the GOP as a whole has done. They might know that Bush is implicated, but not the GOP.

Gene Callahan said...

Raimondo's explanation is full of shit. Reason has been quite enthusiastic about Paul; Sanchez and Weigel were just covering a story and telling the truth -- some "smear"!