
Well that was predictable. The practical effects should be relatively minimal. The government was already eavesdropping and data-mining and turning its COMINT and SIGINT technologies on domestic targets. They were essentially unfettered in doing so. The prior regime of secret courts was a rubber stamp. Who was it that showed the FISA court had rejected less than half a dozen requests over the several decades and thousands of warrants of its existence? It was fanciful to believe that a secret, administrative court served as a bulwark of our privacy. We're neither better nor worse off, although we may benefit insofar as a few more Donks hop off the circus train and head over to the radical borderlands. What an embarrassing capitulation, meaningless though it ultimately, practically was.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Coriolanus
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Agreed.
On some level, this really is the most amazing of the many, many Democratic...what? Betrayals? Rollovers? Capitulations? None of those words quite seems to fit. Let's call them bananas. This was the most amazing of Democratic bananas, going back to their failure to do anything to slow or stop the Military Commissions Act just prior to the 2006 elections, and including the various FISA updates and Iraq war supplementals since gaining the majority.
There is something about the retroactive immunity provision that rips off any shred of disguise for the Democrats' efforts to legalize, co-opt, and endorse every bad, poorly thought out, criminal thing that the Bush administration has ever done.
But I do think this makes SOME practical difference. Because it has the effect of shutting down the various civil suits against the telecoms, wherein discovery would have revealed at least some details of what has happened, we now have absolutely no means of bringing the particulars to light (to say nothing of holding anyone accountable for it all). We are never going to know the extent of what has happened now. Even if there was never a hope of stopping it, or correcting what had already happened, I at least wanted some ATT execs to spend some uncomfortable hours at a deposition table, explaining just how fucking shitty they are.
Has anyone placed Matt Stoller on suicide watch yet?
Matt Stoler, like all them Dems, will wiggle out of his own pronouncments and capitutalate...
I find nothing surprising in the Dems actions re: spying. They are merely the left wing of management of this country...of course they do what the Masters say.
Make sure to vote a straight Democratic ticket in November! Keep hope alive!
IOZ,
I know you like to rail against the non-stop pronouncements that this election is the, "Most. Important. EVAR!!!!"
While it is ridiculous for the reasons typically offered, it's this sort of non-stop accumulation of power in the executive that does make the election important, though for reasons obviously unrelated to the shrill folks that think that way.
Of course, it doesn't really matter who gets elected since neither party will ever voluntarily give back that power. But it would seem that if you believe government should be limited, that each election by definition must be the most important since there are more powers to wield over the citizenry.
Or, you could be a wild-eyed optimist and hope for a candidate that will actually yield those powers. Dare to dream...
Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.
You'd be a wild-eyed something, but I doubt even the Optimists would know what to do with you...
I remember during some of the Iraq capitulations last year being lectured by Stoller and Mahablog about how obnoxious we were being for expressing disappointment in our Donkle reps. Probably more of the same now. It's particularly annoying having people pretending, like, to be so transgressive, man! condescending to you about How The Process Works.
Yeah, what a bunch of simps those MoveOn-Daily Kos Donkle loyalists are. Sure, they just helped kick out an eight-term Dem congressman, replacing him with Donna Edwards, who is now on track to become the first African-American woman elected to Congress from Maryland, but let's mock them mercilessly all the same.
"Who was it that showed the FISA court had rejected less than half a dozen requests over the several decades and thousands of warrants of its existence?"
According to Wikipedia, the court has rejected four or five warrants, and the four known rejects were all partially granted after being resubmitted. So the court has fully rejected at most one warrant in thirty years.
What the fuck does Donna Edwards's ethnicity have to do with anything???
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