Friday, April 04, 2008

Brother Can You Spare a Regression Line?

My Fundamental friend draws my jaundiced eye to this report, cribbed from this Times story, to the effect that "81 percent of respondents said they believed 'things have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track,' up from 69 percent a year ago and 35 percent in early 2002." And a little bit of calcium falls from the coral reef of my heart.

Not only is it a fitting sort of justice--proof positive that the great cosmic banks do indeed maintain some karmic balance sheets--for a nation whose habit of rollicking around the playground, kicking other kids toys and throwing mud in their hair, but it also reveals the plumb depths of our cultural depravity and intellectual incoherence, for what kind of perverse, thoughtless positivism leads a person to think that a country or a people has a "direction"? I think it's safe to conclude that in the public mind such direction consists of a shared sense of ever-expanding national prosperity, because from the moment our indoctrination education begins, that's what we're taught. "Progress is our product," as the saying used to go, and nothing so darkens the national mood as the thought that the relentless expansion of fortune might hiccup, let alone actually pause. Americans have no instinct to simply be, which accounts not only for our rampant unhappiness, but also for our inability to leave other people the fuck alone. I would like to believe that our present anxiety will lead to some reconsideration of the hocus-pocus empire we've constructed, will lead us back to some thoughts about community, but something tells me that comeuppance precedes wisdom, alas.

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

Spell check!

Mr.Fundamental said...

I would like to believe that our present anxiety will lead to some reconsideration of the hocus-pocus empire we've constructed, will lead us back to some thoughts about community, but something tells me that comeuppance precedes wisdom, alas.

beware! be very beware.

paolaccio said...

anonymous: that's easy: C-H-E-C-K.

puppylander said...

C-Z-E-C-H

d'oh!

Brian said...

For our "foreign" visitors, may I proposed C-H-E-Q-U-E?

Anonymous said...

"I would like to believe that our present anxiety will lead to some reconsideration of the hocus-pocus empire we've constructed, will lead us back to some thoughts about community, but something tells me that comeuppance precedes wisdom..."

Could that truism have anything to do with that tragedy thing you mention from time to time?

Regards,

tres chic (pronnounced chek)?

TGGP said...

Are Americans actually less happy than the global average?

IOZ said...

Well I don't think it's a matter of happiness, but of beingness. What Americans call happiness and try to measure against the global average, such as it is, reeks to me of useless self-regard.

paolaccio said...

Little Denmark, with its five-and-a-half million people, is the happiest country in the world, says a study done by an English University. Morley Safer reports.

Dano said...

Yes.Community.

Montag said...

community? sure. community that can kick all the other communities ass!!

USA, USA, USA, USA!!!

all you other communities ain't for shit!

frijoles junior said...

IOZ,
I almost never disagree with a single word you say, but community? Maybe it's just my extreme alienation from a lifetime spent at the cultural fringe of the empire, but any hint in the direction of communitarianism gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Community to me is that bunch of assholes who would rather I have nightmares every night than relax after work with a bong. Sure, the modern prohibition started decades ago in the imperial capitol, but now it's the neighbors and the local police that I need to stay aware of lest a lifetime of hard work go up in smoke.

Individuality is hard to reconcile with community. Can't I just be in exchange for leaving everyone else the fuck alone?

Unhappily,
Frijoles Junior

mistah charley, ph.d. said...

"Progress is our most important product" was a slogan used in General Electric advertising. In 1994, Hamilton Cravens used it as the title of his review of W. Bernard Carlson's book Innovation as a Social Process: Elihu Thomson and the Rise of General Electric, 1870-1900. In this review, we are told that

"Elihu Thomson was an amazing man. During his five decades as an electrical engineer and businessman, he won some 696 patents, thus making him the third most prolific inventor in American history." As an effective businessman, the company he founded (which eventually became the General Electric Company) established processes of product improvement and scientific research - he is a major figure in both technological and business history.

A retired electrical engineer muses on the history of both GE and Westinghouse at http://tinyurl.com/6h5t34

la Rana said...

I think Frijoles is right, in a sense. Community involves organization, and organization is inherently corrupt and ultimately coercive. While an estimable goal from where I sit (contra Frijoles), it is at counter purposes with anarchism rooted in consent.

Erin said...

Groovy, man. While just "be-ing" may be a useful state of mind while on vacation, we should be glad that most in our country do not choose to spend their life contemplating their navel. Someone has to get up and go to work in the morning. Personally, I am glad that the colonists didn't just decide to "be" but fought to create a country with the freedoms we have. So maybe sometimes we do get a bit big for our britches and deserve the checks (whatver your spelling choice) we receive when we do. But overall, it's good we are a nation of dreamers and achievers. And it's not magic that built it, but hard work.

frijoles junior said...

Erin,
Who said anything about navel gazing? Individuality is not incompatible with hard work or striving to improve your social situation. I don't see anything in the main post or upthread that implies slack. The point is about keeping your nose out of other people's business, and how much happier we might all be if everybody did.

Also, this country isn't all that great, or that free. The American revolution entailed a lot of human suffering. Did it lead to a better outcome than if it hadn't happened? Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing. It just was.

Brian said...

too often, though, our dreams and achievements involve murder and robbery from other people.

But, Erin's right. Those redskins, and black slaves, and Mexicans, and Phillip[inos, and Central Americans, and Vitenamese, and Panamaians, and whatever whoever we've bombed and butchered during our "acheievements" don't understand the importance of private property and industrialism. They're just inferior to our go-getter forefathers. Heck...why not really acheive something in Iraq right now anddrop a few big ones. Neutron bombs, do we still have any left? The oil field equipment would still be in place. Let's ahcieve our way to controlling the oil like our ance4stors did-just kill 'em all.

Brian said...

God...my typing sucks...especially when pissed off.

TGGP said...

IOZ' response was incomprehensible to me.

Revisionism on the War of Independence here and in my comment at that post.

TGGP said...

Whoops, I should have linked to here.

Anonymous said...

Lovely-sounding truisms, but the notion that Americans view themselves, their nation, and their culture as being steeped in progress is so fundamentally ignorant, it makes my blood want to curdle or become poison, or something. Americans don't think they can get any better than they already are. True, they don't like the idea of cultural de-evolution or economic recession, but who the fuck does? Americans still think of themselves as ideologically isolationist; so long as Johnny Foreigner insists of making mischief however, America has an obligation to be nosy and kill people and freedom-fight and the like.

Anonymous said...

What's the opposite of "useless self-regard"? I suppose philanthropic empathy. So, if only Americans were kinder and gentler to people, gave more to charity, they would be like Europeans, I guess? That strikes me as a naive proposal. All communities are inherently selfish. Only individuals have the capacity for transcending "self-regard."

Anonymous said...

Also, it should be noted that the poll you're linking to has nothing to do with America's imperialism abroad, and everything to do with people whining about the economy and housing. Still selfish. Schadenfreude unnecessary.

Brian said...

anonymous does have a point. But...no more pompous discussions about how great we are, then.

There was an article on a film made about women in Congo being raped during the nasty little wars. Awful, for sure. But, the film-maker made the comment that we MUST care as much about these women as we do about rapes in our own neighborhoods. Sorry...won't happen.

erin4iraq said...

"God...my typing sucks...especially when pissed off."

So, is the point of this blog to just get angry about injustices and vent? While I am all in favor of exercising free speech rights, other than "raging against the machine" I wonder what any of you do to correct the wrongs you see.

Personally, the last five years have taken me from from unqualified supporter of the invasion of Iraq (& assuming all would be well because we had "good people" running the show), to purposefully ignoring the situation as things soon went South, to dismay, to learning about the country and researching what was really going on, to where I currently am, which is trying to do whatever I can to alleviate the suffering our failure to have a well-thought out post-invasion plan has brought on that country. Since I am here in the US, I spend whatever time I can working with Iraqi refugees, learning their language, and trying to help them start new lives here. What are you doing?

Arkady said...

Erin4Iraq,

Your contrition is appropriate, though I doubt its depth given the noise you're making. But really, honestly now, you should have killed yourself. I'm sure you feel good about what you're doing, but even one fewer person like you would make the world a much better place than anything you can achieve in this orgy of guilt you're indulging. You're a bad person! A smug, barking, moral cretin, who will be proudly ignorant and insufferable no matter what cause you take up. Your sanctimony is unhelpful, to say the least. You'll support murder again, provided its packaged palatably, and you'll insist on feeling good about that too. End the cycle! Please!

Thank you,

Arkady

erin4iraq said...

Arkady: One thing is clear - You don't know me and I don't know you. Are you a pacifist or a war monger? It's a little confusing for me considering the hatred infused in your post.

And by the way, nice dodge of the question. But I suppose your response is your answer....

Anonymous said...

While I am all in favor of exercising free speech rights, other than "raging against the machine" I wonder what any of you do to correct the wrongs you see.

We're gonna BLOG TILL IT HURTS.

Anonymous said...

"erinwhatever" is a maguffin.
No one who uses terms like "warmonger" or pacifist" should be reading this blog.
"Free Speech" is not for retards.
That said, most of you are missing the point of Mr. Fundamental's post IOZ linked to.
To wit: "I've tired of trying to make sense of the world. I've tired of useful human tools such as philosophy, physics, language, math, art, science, geometry, calculus, economics, and of course our best creation ever, politics. it's all so pathetic, and we always use them to leverage one over another."
Word.

Mike

Mr.Fundamental said...

anon @ 8:22am has my vote for thread captain.

kudos.

time to finish my espresso and take a dump.

Anonymous said...

"We're gonna BLOG TILL IT HURTS."

OK. It hurts. Now what?

Anonymous said...

"We're gonna BLOG TILL IT HURTS."

OK. It hurts. Now what?

Anonymous said...

Apologies for the double post.

Signed,

IT HERTZ

Larry said...

"Little Denmark, with its five-and-a-half million people, is the happiest country in the world, says a study done by an English University."

This just in from a USAican living in Copenhagen:

I heard that the Danes were the happiest people in the world, although you sure wouldn't know it by living here.

My experience: They are miserable, rude, self-centered people (generally).

I do have some good friends that are Danes, but most of them...

frijoles junior said...

Larry,
That's funny. As an American living among Americans, my experience is that Americans are generally miserable, rude, and self-centered. I would venture to guess that the same is true everywhere.

I do have some good friends that are humans, but most of them ...

Larry said...

Frijoles jr:

I wouldn't have characterized those comments as funny. What I found "funny" was the coincidental arrival of said comments on the same day that I read paolaccio's post.

And as for Americans:
I couldn't agree with you more.

Christopher said...

The idea that countries have direction is one of those ideas that is drummed into people from a very early age.

More then that, it's one of those ideas that is rarely countered by anyone.

I mean, God has Richard Dawkins, but who's going to explain to you why the idea that a country could have a direction is stupid?

puppylander said...

"colonists didn't just decide to 'be' but fought to create a country with the freedoms we have"

elementary education fails again.

all but one or two of the colonies established in america were intended to be restrictive, not free. the argument for religious tolerance was not driven by tolerance, but rather by "my religion is right, your religion is wrong, and i'm gonna prove it to you here in the new world".

erin4iraq said...

Hmm. Interesting. But somehow we ended up with a Bill of Rights, and that's a good thing.

Anonymous said...

OK. It hurts. Now what?

No one said to stop blogging. Keep at it! Change is around the corner.

Anonymous said...

Hmm. Interesting. But somehow we ended up with a Bill of Rights, and that's a good thing.

When confronted with something so patently absurd being said in the train of thought that this little thread has taken, one must assume that there is an alternate, hidden intention to even blurting something like this out. I can't imagine someone who authentically reads ths blog for any length of time would do so.

erin4iraq said...

Well I haven't been reading this blog all that long, but one thing I have learned in the process is that you all really do not like it when someone brings up anything contrary to the party line. And your first response is hyperbole and insult. Good times.

Anonymous said...

"Community", to the extent it can be meaningfully described, is largely synonymous with homogeneity. Denmark is "happiest" because its population overwhelmingly hails from the same background socially, culturally, and racially. Even the folks under the dome in "Logan's Run" would have rated pretty high on the scale of professed contentment for the same reason.

Inkberrow

puppylander said...

"somehow."

i hope, erin, that somewhere along the line you come to grips with america's various creation myths.

anyhow... dreams, hard work, achievement...

i can't decide if these themes should lead me to a jab about how arbeit macht frei or something about a new line of business aspiration posters.

Brian said...

erin4DaleCarnegie: I wish I still lived in your happy world of brave, freedom seeking Puritan brimstone preachers and virtuous slave traders and hard working Indian killers who ACHIEVE great things.

If I did, maybe I could join (heck...CREATE 'cause I'm a go-getter) programs to adopt lucky Iranian familes who escaped from our covnersion of Tehran to a glowing nuclear pile (because you know erin4inavandownbytheriver reluctantly SUPPORTED to the very end President McCain's oh so painful but necessary attack on Iran.

Anonymous said...

Well I haven't been reading this blog all that long,

Well, I'll be damned. Really?

erin4iraq said...

Brian - Thanks for the Chris Farley reference and for the laugh; I sincerely enjoyed it.

Puppylander - despair.com has beat you to the punch.

Me - I'll just keep dreaming... and reaching for the stars!

Christopher said...

Well I haven't been reading this blog all that long, but one thing I have learned in the process is that you all really do not like it when someone brings up anything contrary to the party line. And your first response is hyperbole and insult. Good times.

This is true of all blogs, everywhere. Maybe next this blog'll teach you that fish breathe water.

Okay, that wasn't very nice, but I'm feeling grumpy.

On the one hand, I agree that the American Constitution is one of the finest legal documents mankind has ever produced. On the other, it was (And might still be) light-years away from being a just system.

It's taken 200-some yeas for our country to get to the point where it's kinda sorta maybe not really acceptable to blacks and Indians.

I don't understand why we're supposed to ignore the perspectives of the people who got fucked over by this country. In the 18th century it might have represented freedom for white men, but for black people it represented one of the most awful forms of slavery mankind has ever created. The first only mitigates the latter if you aren't a slave.

Anonymous said...

Me - I'll just keep dreaming... and reaching for the stars!

It seems to be working. Nothing says "concerned global citizen" like counseling the families of people you supported killing. America, fuck yeah?

puppylander said...

so i shouldn't be harsh towards our very own elle wood. but i'm certain she knows that sage counsel depends on an accurate reading of the facts and circumstances.

i have a sense that she's lacking context so far as ioz goes. the truth is, this blog is not without a kind of vision, and hence not without a certain optimism. it's simply that the optimism isn't apparent because criticism is associated with pessimism and "despair".

puppylander said...

revise: strike "associated"; replace with "confused".

Jerry said...

A wise Scotish ditchdigger, working in Germany once told me while we were having a pint in an Irish bar tha sarcasm was the lowest form of humor. Even then, I bought him another pint. No grudges for recognizing my baser instincts. And ya'll? Buy me a pint???