Monday, April 14, 2008

Ecclesiastes 1:9

Democracy is pretty good at pushing scoundrels out of office, or checking them once they are in office. Democracy is also good at making sure enough interest groups are bought off so that social order may continue and that a broad if sometimes inane social consensus can be manufactured and maintained. We should expect all those things of democracy and indeed democracy can, for the most part, deliver them.

-Tyler Cowen on the "virtues and limits of democracy"

The President of the United States has openly, proudly admitted that he approved the use of interrogation methods that are by every measure -- including the measure of United States law -- criminal acts of torture. It is one of the most brazen and scandalous confessions of wrongdoing ever uttered by an American leader -- and it has had no impact whatsoever. No scandal, no outcry, no protest, no prosecution.

-Chris Floyd on our "deep, virtually catatonic civic paralysis"
I was just chillin tryin to synthesize this dialectic, yo, when I recalled Ghandi's best joke. Asked by a reporter what he thought of Western Civilization, he said, "I think it would be a good idea!"

But maybe the better punchline, or at least the more germane, was Chou En-Lai's assessment of the historical import of the Revolution of 1789: "Too early to say."

To Cowen's contention that Democracy is pretty good at "pushing scoundrels out of office," the natural reply is that it's also pretty goddamn good at putting them in office in the first place. To Floyd's belief that our civic institutions have failed to prevent determined rulers from committing acts of aggression and atrocity, the proper reply is that democracy (in any incarnation) just isn't so exceptional as its proponents, and there are still plenty of 'em, would have us believe.

So although Cowen is cautiously positive about the benefits of democratic representationalism and Floyd increasingly bitter about its evident decline, they share a flawed premise: that democratic governance is fundamentally different than every other arrangement of rulers over ruled, states over citizens, in the short and bloody history of the human species. And I put it to you: any such premise is fundamentally untrue.

Whether examined on the basis of internal politics or relations with foreign nations, democracies in their various incarnations have historically behaved exactly as have all other nations: sometimes despotically, sometimes benevolently; sometimes liberated, sometimes tyrannical; sometimes peacefully, sometimes aggressively; sometimes inward-looking, sometimes expansionistic. The "freedoms" our self-satisfied civic culture associates almost exclusively with democratic governance are neither as unique to democracy as our mythology would have it nor as absolute in their application--presently nor historically--as our Founder-worshippers would ask us to believe. I have yet to encounter a "natural right" as broadly inviolable as gravity or the conservation of energy, and so I question the "natural." Rights are social constructs, and while I have an affection for most of those enumerated in our social documents, I don't kid myself in thinking that they derive from the natural order of the universe, nor do I flatter my chauvinism by believing that such rights and privileges are either uniquely granted or uniquely withheld in my own society.

This is not an argument I advance in the service of mere complaceny, although my innate tendency toward defeatism tells me that the benefits of "stealing company time"--sitting down on the job, such as it were--usually outweight the benefits of a riot, let alone an election. The fact that "this has all happened before, and it will happen again," as every internerd's favorite television show so lovingly engages the idea of eternal return, is no reason to accept without sorrow and outrage the manifold violations perpetrated on individual lives in this sorry world. The fact that the United States is not behaving uniquely among historical world powers, but rather as world powers have always behaved, neither excuses America's conduct nor the conduct of any other conquerers.

Nevertheless, it is not an American failure that drives us to war with Iran, that has driven us to war with Iraq and Afghanistan, and to countless horrors before them and more to follow them. It is instead a human failure, and to couch our criticisms of torture and aggression in strictly nationalistic terms--appeals to social tradition or legal history as bulwarks against atrocity--is to engage in a kind of conceptual failure. It presumes, I believe, that the solution to our current woes, and to the woe we bring upon others with such relentlessness and ferocity, is to return to our roots, to eschew the mechanisms of the empire and return to the republic that spawned it . . . as if the empire were not the foregone conclusion of the repblic, the inevitable outcome.

To harp again on my own coinage: the solution is dissolution. The question before us is not how to properly constitute polities, but how to deconstruct them; not how to restrain the war machine, but how to first dismantle it, and then dismantle its constituent parts.


Cowen via Henley

19 comments:

Leonard said...

the United States is not behaving uniquely among historical world powers, but rather as world powers have always behaved

True enough, to a point. World powers have always acted aggressively. This is the nature of the state, and apparently universal in the sense that dictators and "the American people" act alike.

However, what is truly exceptional about our modern "empire" is how little benefit we, the supposed hegemonic power, are getting out of the arrangement. The typical thing for empires is that you tax the subordinated people. This is what makes empires stable, in economic terms -- they can pay for themselves.

Our empire doesn't pay for itself. Not even close to it. Instead it's a huge money-sink. Thus, it cannot last. Sooner or later the Chinese will tire of lending us money, and when that happens, the empire will end.

IOZ said...

Well our empire does benefit the people who have always benefitted from empire, and for those who haven't, hasn't. Empire may have benefitted the Julii, but to the average pleb in a fireprone insulae, it maybe meant a parade.

Sooner or later the money always dries up and the empire always comes to an end.

Mr.Fundamental said...

I think the only reason I have for why I will vote this year is 'out of some vague notion of tradition.' and also, so that I will not have to explain to everyone why I chose not to vote. life will be easier if I just nod my head and move along to what I was working on before I was interupted. this every fours years bit is annoying. I'll grant that our empire is real easy-breezy, but I could imagine it with much less effort on my part! well, unless my boss will let me out early to go and vote. that's cool, man.

do you think it possible for me to kill the empire in my head?

chthulu's mom said...

Seeing as how you have to wait six years to vote a senator out, and seeing as how recall elections are prohibited at the federal level in the United States, I'd say that democracy is *not* good at pushing scoundrels out. Nor, it seems, is it good at checking them once they're in.

Anonymous said...

To harp again on my own coinage: the solution is dissolution. The question before us is not how to properly constitute polities, but how to deconstruct them; not how to restrain the war machine, but how to first dismantle it, and then dismantle its constituent parts.

When you come up with a way to dismantle the war machines and deconstruct the polities in such a manner that they cannot be reconstructed in a new, equally or perhaps even more horrible form, then you will win a Nobel Peace Prize. Perhaps multiple.

Your optimism about human nature in posts like this always amazes me IOZ. You really think that we could take apart the war machines without new ones rising in their place? The history of the world revolves around groups of people gathering together to keep from getting beat up by stronger people then turning around and beating up on other, weaker people themselves. Dismantle the war machines and the players will re-arrange the board - sure new players might be among the strong and old "strongmen" might be among the weak but the aggregate nature of the board will not change.

As such the games that Floyd is playing makes perfect sense - shame has long been a motivator to get the elite members of social groups to finally turn themselves around and do something about it. The common masses can agitate all they want but unless they're willing to rise up, throw down the elites in bloody revolution and put themselves up as new elites in their places, shame is about the only way that elites ever bother to make a change. And since, despite the propaganda we're fed in our High School history classes, the only way change ever really occurs is when the elites decide to take action, this is not a bad tactic to take.

That also seems to be a theme of Cowen's quote there, though I quibble with his use of the word "good". Democracy is better than other forms of government at giving a mechanism for removing scoundrels from office without incurring a bloody revolution. It's not necessarily "good" at this, it's just better than the alternatives if you take as a given that bloody revolution is a bad thing that should be avoided when possible.

Anonymous said...

I said it recently far downpage, but since it's still annoying me like a popcorn kernel stuck in my gumline, I'll say it again: if I have to see yet another garment-rending display of wailing over America's Lost Innocence, part 386 (see Hullabloo, Digby & Co.), I'm going to seriously lose my shit.

How did these people make it to adulthood seriously believing this shit?

IOZ said...

Your optimism about human nature in posts like this always amazes me IOZ.

I am not an optimist, but neither am I a determinist.

Anonymous said...

Man, the other anons are so fond of playing gotcha, even when they don't totally understand what it is our humble host is saying.

Me, I just stick to making fun of people like erin4iraq

Anonymous said...

Man, the other anons are so fond of playing gotcha, even when they don't totally understand what it is our humble host is saying.

Remember in high school when you'd run into the kid who was always talking about how you could read the first and last paragraph of something and understand it? Unfortunately, many of them grow up.

Montag said...

if we dissolve the empire now, the terrorists will take credit for it.

that's not what our forefathers had in mind!

Aaron said...

Running theme for me (possibly related to my runny nose) but I have an awfully hard time buying this anarcho-gunk. If democratic governance is just another incarnation of the same stupid shit that has driven the "short and bloody history of the human species" all along, are the hale and hearty anarchists who will oppose it inhuman? Isn't hierarchy part of being homo sapiens? Aren't 'politics' and 'empire' just alternative less fancy ways of saying 'hierarchy'?

When you appeal to human nature and then call for the anarchists to oppose it, it sounds to me awfully like a dude trying to have his cake and eat it too. Which, by the way, is also pretty common primate social behavior.

TGGP said...

Speaking of natural rights, the republished edition of L.A Rollins' "The Myth of Natural Rights" with an intro from yours truly should be out soon. Here is a sneak peak at the cover.

I'd like to repeat my call for everyone interested in dismantling the whole kaboodle to check out Keith Preston's redesigned Attack the System. The yahoo group is a lot more active than the site

To answer your question, Aaron, I am anti-human. I aspire to inhuman rationality (even if I reject rationalism in favor of empiricism or pluralism, depending on how the word is being used).

Anonymous said...

This business about American democracy being no different from tyranny, et al, is itself a fundamentally flawed notion.

Republic, not a democracy. Republic. Republics are as old, as... well, they're older than Plato, I can tell you. Only baby kiddies think America is special. Why don't you ever address smart people?

Anonymous said...

P to the S:

Dissolution is a pretty old, deeply naive attitude. Cf all nineteenth century Anglo and American utopian literature, wherein women are rosy- and apple-cheeked and men get by being carpenters and peeps in general take dumps in Parliament.

Brian said...

Whereas you, "anonymous" have the harshly realistic attitude that the current American federal regime can continue borrowing money at the rate of 40 billion per month or so so a tiny self-selected political elite can continue to play their silly version of The Great Game.

Or...perhaps you are a Pwog and believe that if we VOTE-BECAUSE IT IS OUR DUTY DUTY DUTY! we can bring CHANGE in the persona of a particularly smooth and telegenic (if by telegenic you mean "Data" on the old Star Trek TNG series)center-right corporate bought-and-sold politician

Boy...that is so realistic. Realism looks at history and realizes that empires crash and burn pretty frequently. I don't beleive a post-imperial America will necessarily be better for Americans. It may well be better for our victims, though.

IOZ said...

Republic, not a democracy.

Oo, la. The mind reels.

The Promiscuous Reader said...

Why don't you ever address smart people?

Why, anon, do you know any?

"Ghandi," eh, IOZ? Is he any relation to "Bhudda" or "Jhonson"?

erin4iraq said...

The fault is not so much the system as in those governing and being governed. No system of governance is going to work perfectly with flawed human beings running the show. At least we do have checks and balances built in to our system. And when people choose to value the rule of law above their own short-term interests, that system works.

Anonymous said...

How can you have a "system" independent of the realities that human beings define and establish and run said system. Your proposition is, sadly, meaningless. Until JEEBUS comes down and establishes the Dictatorship of the Elect (who will gleefully laugh at the music of the cries of damned...Gosh, the Christian God is loving!) So...your first sentence is meaningless, and contradicted by the second sentence, which acknowledges flawed humanity.

As for the checks and balances? What checks and balances? When have they recently worked very well? Presidents have been effectively starting wars for 50 years. Did we declare war on Panama to snatch Noreiga (we killed hundreds, if not thusands of civllians in that little escapade). Did Congress officially declare war on Nicaragua? No...in fact Reagan (or his cabal) effectively ignored Congress in running their little rape and murder the nuns campaign. I don't recall, but was there ever a formal, Constitutionally mandated Declaration of War on North Vietnam? Why not? How the Vietnam War justified under your system of checks and balances?

As for the rule of law, law is also a human artifact. It is used and twisted by people largely to advance their short term interests.

Empire is based on a feedback system. It attracts those who can justify it, celebrate it, excuse it, and use it to enrich and empower themselves. There will always be conflict. Empire allows said conflict to occur on a worldwide scale, it concentrates power. And, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The United States Empire cannot be redeemed. There is too much money to be made. Too much realm for the nasty machinations of people like Liberman and Douglas Feith and Donald Rumsfeld. Too much blind narcissism and the religion of the State, promoted by a media that does not choose to face reality because it is more profitable to suck up to the sociopathic elite.

We are done. Donating stuff to the victims of our hubris is nice, but not ameliatory. Our own bankruptcy will take care of things, so...no problem.

Brian (the Name/URL option is now sticking an "optional" code that Blogger sees as illegal)