Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Je m'accuse

I have known IOZ for my entire life, but it is clear to me that he has changed, and I must forcefully repudiate his views. Although he was there for my birth, at every birthday and holiday--a presence in my life and family for as long as I can remember--I can no longer support, nor be associated with, his divisive rhetoric. The suggestion that we are but soap bubbles on the skein of time does not reflect my belief that the collective nature of the human organism on this planet can be fundamentally altered and bettered through the judicious application of electioneering within the borders of the United States of America. IOZ's bitterness does not reflect my hope for a belief in change for a better tomorrow for the children. By pointing out that ours is a sexually backward patriarchal culture of racist exploitation that glories in state violence, IOZ shows how little he is interested in taking back America. He is no longer the man I thought I might once have somewhat known.

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

I lol'd. At the risk of once again marking myself as a lamprey perpetually stuck to your ass, I say again, bravo sir.

nit (was obamabot) said...

Well, here's a story no one is interested in. When my man Barry made his big race speech in response to the first round of scary-black-pastor-palooza I was impressed. IMO, he went against the conventional behaviour of politicians. Into a mood of race-baiting he confronted America, or at least her press corps. He proudly displayed his heritage as the son of a BLACK MAN and a WHITE WOMAN. He called this speech "a more perfect union". Damn, that there is some subversive shit.

The response here was - oh look another puppet of Israel - quelle grande surprise! So I took the name obamabot to defend him.

Well, that's down the shitter. I mean, I guess I always knew he was a politician underneath all that magical unity pony dust, but it felt pretty good for awhile to believe.

So, not that anyone cares, I'm not commenting as obamabot anymore. I'll take a name that our gracious host picked out for me.

Anonymous said...

obamabot,

I suffered from a bout of idealism too, about four years ago. Even voted for Kerry. Four years later I am hip to what a farce our Empire truly is and I feel much better about it. Take heart, the sun will still shine, cookies will still taste good, etc. If anything, your life gets better when you give yourself up to the fact that our government is a rampaging fuckbeast and that the only sane thing to do is stand out of its way as much as possible so you don't get trampled.

It's not Barry's fault though, really. He's only playing the game the ruling class have set up to the best of his ability, so I don't really begrudge him that, but it is kind of a bummer for earnest dudes such as yourself who were just looking for something to believe in. Trust me, it doesn't sound like much, but believing in nuzzingk is much healthier, once you get the hang of it.

Mr.Fundamental said...

and what, je t'en prie, has obamabot (and Obama for that matter), in factuality, given up?

nit said...

Well, last year for Lent, I tried to give up brussel sprouts, but I was told that that didn't count.

Fortunately for me, brussel sprouts are pretty good when fried with bacon.

Tony of AntiSocial Commentary said...

I think it's pretty misogynist of you, IOZ, to refer to yourself as a "man." The more inclusive term is single-X-chromosome-American. Please get it right.

nit said...

In other news, Albert Hofmann is dead at 102. Which in some fonts looks like ioz. So Messieur, what is your problem with acid?

Mr.Fundamental said...

I was just asked over the cube by my direct boss, in a concerted and concerned and perhaps stern manner "do you know the XYZ Property?" you can tell he was being serious because he was quiet and had other people in his cube.

I said "in the Biblical sense?"

so my question is, how can you truly know someone man? like, trulydeeply know someone, man?

I'm so confused.

LA Confidential Pantload said...

We are the ones we have been wanking for.

chthulu's mom said...

IOZ, I must forcefully repudiate your repudiation of yourself.

Anonymous said...

In other news, Albert Hofmann is dead at 102. Which in some fonts looks like ioz. So Messieur, what is your problem with acid?

LSD is over-rated. I'm still waiting for my acid flashback.
-- sglover

Anonymous said...

IOZ's problem is that he is a pastor and you, monsieur, are a politician.

drip

Anonymous said...

On the subject of scary pastor wright, i think it's hilarious that so many people consider it more offensive to suggest that U.S. foreign policy led to 9/11 than the poisonous idea that blacks and whites have racially determined differences in cognitive ability.

YF

conspiracy brother jones said...

Oh, come on, it's a freakin' work already.

I say so for exactly the reason that IOZ mocks here - the fact that Obama could have known this guy for so long, had him involved in so many important parts of his life, and yet had no idea of, or sympathy with, his views?

Why is it so hard to think that they could have known that a black guy with a serious shot at the Presidency would have to go through all this crap to reassure all the uptighty-whities that he was one of those "respectable" kinds, that he would need some over-the-top spectacle (I hate the fucking phrase "Sister Souljah moment) to convince the public that he has nothing to do with those Malcom Xish, angry, uppity, Ebonics-speaking, Flavor Flav kinds? I'm sure Mr. Wright would have been glad to be the scapegoat for the purpose of pulling off such a scam.

Let me stress that I say this admiringly - the dumbest motherfucking nation on earth deserves no less than to be punked by a smooth operator. Somehow, I think even IOZ might serve up some applause if this were indeed the case.

tooearly said...

"But Wright's latest round of media appearances have not seemed to me to be any kind of defense of liberalism or the black church or even Black Liberation Theology so much as one man's desire to deny a rival his destiny. This was personal and I find it very creepy. "
Digby

DO you link digby for want of bad acid?

tooearly said...

by gum IOZ, you are repudiating yourself just in time for the masses to be converted to your unrepentant views...go over to Digby and read the comments: i have not visited that site in many months and was flabbergasted to see that a fair percentage of readers have had the wool pulled off their eyes

TGGP said...

Why should we be proud of who are parents are? We're not responsible for them. Obama's bigamous, alcoholic, abusive dad hardly seems worthy of respect at any rate. His Indonesian step-father sounds like he was an alright dude though.

I think Wright puts it crudely, but I think he has a point about both the link between our government's actions and 9/11 and cognitive differences. I don't believe in races as Platonic essences, but I recognize non-equal distributions (though with significant overlap) of traits (whose cause I cannot say, but I don't think Wright does either) persisting despite attempts to "close the gap" (with white standards of course being normative). This white-centric view has resulted in large numbers of African-American kids being placed in special education with those who have Down's Syndrome, though they do not have any similar mental deficiency that would prevent them from being self-sufficient as adults (apologies if I am displaying an ignorance of Down's Syndrome).

Just as denouncing his views on 9/11 and unpatriotic or anti-American does not get us anywhere, I would expect a more serious response to his other statements than to dismiss them as poisonous. I've mentioned this subject before here and our host responded jokingly, which I can't say is other than I should expect. I'm asking other commenters to respond not by telling me how bad Wright or I am for saying such things but how WRONG we are.

tooearly said...

ok well, a fair percentage means 3 posters, but still and yet, dont go!

Anonymous said...

"By pointing out that ours is a sexually backward patriarchal culture of racist exploitation that glories in state violence, IOZ shows how little he is interested in taking back America."

Wow.

I got...like...nothin'.

FOD (Friend of Digby)

Anonymous said...

Well, at least now I'll be ready if trivia night ever includes the question:

"What do Jeremiah Wright and James Watson have in common?"

I would defend my characterization of the belief that whites and blacks have racially determined differences in cognitive ability as "poisonous," but I don't really have to scientific chops to do so.

YF

Anonymous said...

"....the dumbest motherfucking nation on earth deserves no less than to be punked by a smooth operator."

Heighten the contradictions. Vote for Sidney.

TGGP said...

James Watson is actually an Obama supporter. He has donated the maximum allowable amount to him.

TGGP said...

Here is the opensecrets page. It should stay there for now, but I got there via a link from The Scientist which was outdated, requiring me to view the next 50 entries, where he was 4th from the top. For readers who see this much later than I posted it, you may have to go back some pages. It should say "WATSON, JAMES DAVEY COLD SPRING HARBOR,NY 11724" in the Contributor column, "COLD SPRING HARBOR LABORATORY/SCIEN" in Occupation, "1/10/2008" as the Date, $2,300 as the Amount and "Obama, Barack" as the recipient.

TGGP said...

Forgot the link.

Agi said...

I hereby renounce AND reject this IOZ character. Bleh!

Christopher said...

"I'm sure Mr. Wright would have been glad to be the scapegoat for the purpose of pulling off such a scam."

Well, being a scapegoat doesn't seem to have hurt him any. I'm watching the Youtube video of him answering questions at the press club, and it's just a stream of home runs. Watching him answer a series of mind-numbingly stupid questions in that way he do is like watching Godzilla fight the Japanese army.

Wright is currently my favorite person in the whole country. It seems to me he's gotten a lot of media exposure and the guys attacking him look like the venal morons they are.

Obamabot: I'm feeling kind of the same way. I used to think Obama was a real, sincere centrist.

Like, if you watch The Daily Show, John Stewart is a pretty happy guy who likes people on both sides of the aisle and pretty much believes in America and Apple Pie and all that jazz. And I think those are his actual politics.

For a while, I thought Obama was the same way; I thought his expressions of centrism weren't cynical efforts to get elected, but were his actual, factual politics.

I thought he was wrong, but I didn't think he was just playing the game.

But... each time he disses Wright it gets harder to defend this theory.

It's depressing.

On another subject: DIGBY.

Thanks for bring up this post. I had been slacking off on my Digby reading for a while, and I'd just happened to miss one of the dumbest, vilest pieces of shit I have ever fucking read.

You know, until now I never understood why separation of church and state was as good for the church as it was for people who didn't like the church.

But seeing fuckheads like Digby excorciate Pastor Wright for not sacrificing his religious values to Obama's political campaign, now I understand.

So, my question is this: Was Digby ever any good? I used to regard Hullabaloo as one of the smarter liberal blogs, and kept reading it even as I abandond some of the others. But in the last eight months I've felt more and more that Digby hasn't ben saying anything interesting. Did she change, or did I?

American Ex-Pat in London said...

Christopher -

I stopped reading Digby about the time I realized she kept saying how shit the Democrats were, but jeez, we still have to support them. She's like some abused wife that keeps making bloody excuses for her abusive cunt of a husband. I couldn't stand watching that woman make a spectacle of her ability to take each blow and continuously go back for more.

The problem? Digby didn't change, mate. It's you and I who did. Or maybe that we can take in new facts and allow our brains to actually make the very obvious connection that the Dems are useless pieces of shit that don't deserve our time or money.

nit said...

Christopher,

Apolggies for "lowering the tone", especially since you're clearly giving me the benefit of the doubt, but centrism can take its bipartisan comity, fold it until it's all sharp corners and shove it up its crossed aisle. The only good centrism has done is to more clearly demonstrate how both the donkey and the elephant loves themselves some authoritarian statism.

I'll agree with you about White. All this anger and outrage because a preacher used inflammatory language - some nice irony there. The racism is distasteful, but in what I've seen so far, of a significantly lesser degree than in the hundred who should have resigned after the handling of Katrina and didn't.

Montag said...

The center of what?

I don't get a warm feeling about "centerism" where "the center" is some nexus point between corporate bootlicking, authoritarian, military fetishist Power Seekers.

Just saying.

Anonymous said...

Anyone heard from "alansmithee" lately?

Anonymous said...

Holy shit, get a load of this. Digby's got the same paranoia that her brain-dead commentariat has:

I have to assume that the telcoms have been secretly monitoring members of congress and the Bush administration's communications and are blackmailing them. There is just no other adequate explanation for this immunity nonsense to keep coming back over and over again.

"I have to assume". "No other adequate explanation".

Please, IOZ, I'm begging you - have some fun with this as only you can, you smug, apathy-selling, cocksucking bastard.

Anonymous said...

anon9:36,

I can't presume to speak for IOZ, but I feel qualified to do so for Digs.

We can't change any of this until we get a Dem back in the WH, 60 votes in the Senate, and 290whatever in the House. That's job #1. So everyone has to pull together to win the key races in their state and districts.

Then we can begin purging the Justice Dept., etc., of the Bushie political appointees. The Courts will take time, but we can look to replace 2 perhaps even 3 Justices in the 8 years a President Obama should have to Retake America.

Digs believes that it will take someone of Barry's unqualified stature to heal the divisions caused by 8 years of Repub rule.

She believes that ours is not a "terrorist" state; that America has done a few things to be ashamed of in its past for sure, but we can't get caught up in ancient history. She thinks we're still a moral country, and that people can still be led in the right direction, if they are given the right leaders.

This is the most important election of our generation. That said, I'm sure you'll agree that the Dem candidates in your district and across the nation deserve as much support as you can give them.

FOD (Friend of Digby)

Brian said...

"She believes that ours is not a "terrorist" state; that America has done a few things to be ashamed of in its past for sure, but we can't get caught up in ancient history. She thinks we're still a moral country, and that people can still be led in the right direction, if they are given the right leaders."

Then she is seriously deluded, FOD. I know you are a spoofing concern troll, but this argument is a common one. America is a terrorist state. We were founded on invasion and genocide. We have a larger military than the rest of the world put together. Let's just do a quick list off the top of my head:

Indian wars
Mexican-American War
Spanish-American War and the
Phillipines (200,000 people killed dead by our freedom-bringing soldiers)
WWI-arguably, Wilson, that pious fraud and prig, largely enabled the horrors of the 20th Century
Haiti multiple times
Chile
Panama
Dominican Republic
Contras
Argentina (support for military thugocracy)
Vietnam
Iraq

Lot of people killed because they just couldn't accept that there freedom we were bringing.

All empires are terrorist state, by definition empire means expansion of the state to other peoples by force. Even if the force is wielded by a "legitimate" state, the victims are still just as dead.

Anonymous said...

Anyone heard from "alansmithee" lately?

Hopefully, he's dead.

Anonymous said...

Ioz, your recent comments are a good start, but have you denounced yourself at every single meeting with another person? For 100% of the conversation? Have you paid for vicious attack ads condemning yourself?

I ask you - why not, unless you're secretly in league with yourself?!?!?!?!?!!!

-Barry

Anonymous said...

Hey Brian you forgot Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Colombia, Iran (under the Shah), Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, East Timor, South Africa (with help from our proxy Israel), plus aiding ex-Nazis in their escape, MK-Ultra, COINTELPRO, the Phoenix Program and that is just scratching the surface.

nit said...

ioz's many transgressions against The Movement to Retake America may be numerous and egregious, but how can we take ioz's denunciation of them seriously until he also denounces Mark Penn, Ward Churchill, Ann Coulter and the Chupacabra?

tooearly said...

ust see:
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tr/2008/tr080501.gif

Anonymous said...

IOZ, please please PLEASE tweak Digby. Post something, ANYTHING. I'm dying here. I'm trying so valiantly to avoid work, but it's a losing battle without anything to distract me here. HELP!

M. Pyre said...

FOD at 11:00 am --

After I finished wiping the laughter-generated tears from my eyes, I thought it best to reply to your comedy.

You -- on your own and/or Digby's behalf -- carry this massive delusion around. The delusion is that this is all the fault of Elephants and we only need to get Donkeys in there.

Let's review something, FOD. Donkeys have run the show in the Congress since the 06 elections. Since that time Donkey Congress has given Elephant Prez whatever he requested.

Justice is not perverted by Elephants. It is perverted by careerists who are Donkeys and Elephants alike. You really think that Justice is run by Yoo? Yoo's at Stanford now. Scratch that theory. Addington? Shit. He's one person. Mukasey? WTF? You must be kidding.

It seems essential to you and to Digby to believe that the problems we face in America are due to partisan players in the Fed Govt -- you HAVE TO believe this because your aim is to put Donkey Players in those same seats. And then, Digbyphilic Glory will be UPON US. Right?

Why do I keep coming back to the Donkey Congress and its refusal to challenge Bush/Cheney? Its refusal to impeach. Its refusal to do anything that indicates a desire for change? Why?

I know why. But I am sure you and Digby do not. Because you two and the other Digbyphiles have reduced this to an epic Donkey-Elephant death match, and that's all you see. A Super Bowl. Or better said, given the players, a Polo Match.

Please, FOD. Get back in that stupid Prius you drove over here in. You know, the one with an Obama 08 sticker on its bumper? That one. And drive back home to Darling Digby, and tell her that I was mean to you. You two then can commiserate over something that will be meaningful to both of you: I am registered as a Republican. Please never mind how I vote, or how I think, or whether I have supported a Republican since the day I registered. Just latch onto that Elephant thing, and insist that the problem starts and ends right there.

Thanks, in advance, for all your lovingly helpful cooperation.

nit said...

burning m,
Recognizing that there's no pony to be found under the Iraqi sand does not preclude recognizing that there's no pony to be found under the DNC.
Even if you see a little bit of pony poking through there, that's probably just what they ate for lunch. Not recognizing that was my mistake, but it's also FOD's raison d'etre. Taking it away is like kicking puppies. Annoyingly yappy puppies.

Anonymous said...

Also, FOD is a gimmick poster, and a fantastically hilarious one at that.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ, Digby and her conspiracy theory horseshit again, and they just lap it up. Witness Digby commenter "Element 5":

"So I suggest you stop defending the Democrat's behavior with elaborate fantasies. They don't deserve it. You may fight for them...but they sure as hell don't fight for us.

Hmmm....you know, some repressed individuals are so geared to avoidance that they refuse to accept the notion that 9/11 was something utterly different than their government tells them it is. You can throw facts at them all day long (there are literally that many facts against the "Osama did it" bullshit) and they will answer every bit of evidence with "you're insane, our government would NEVER attack it's own people" or some similar dick-headed nonsense.

We live in times so unreal that if I'd been able to travel back 10 years and tell you (ten years ago) exactly what would happen in the 10 years hence, you would think me a complete lunatic with a particularly bad case of hysteria.

The most unlikely, nay.......impossible things have happened, things that could *never* happen in a democracy and those things were planned out by Right-wing think tanks years in advance, ready to drop into the slot when a massive enough "fortunate event" could be contrived and implemented.

The Right tried to overthrow the government during the Clinton administration (there is no other objective way to view it) and they were finally successful in Bush v. Gore, when the GOP partisans on the Supreme Court twisted the rule of law into knots to give their witless puppet the presidency. We are only beginning to see just how fucked-up these criminals were, right from the first day of stolen office, starting universal surveillance right at the very first days, planning a war against Iraq on the first fucking day, bro!

If you think that what I've suggested about the Democrats (in light of the staggering litany of Bush crimes that have been exposed) is nothing more than an "elaborate fantasy" then you really, really aren't paying attention........that or some part of your mind has decided to shield you from the truth, thinking that it's more than you can deal with. Either way, you have my sympathies."

Anonymous said...

m.pye: FYI, I drive an ass-stomping Hummer.

FOD

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ, Digby and her conspiracy theory horseshit again, and they just lap it up. Witness Digby commenter "Element 5":

Yeah, Element 5 can always be relied on to trot out the old "Bush did 9/11!!1!" story. The simpler explanation, that they were just opportunists who pounced on an event engineered by very real Islamists who very really hate us isn't X-Files enough for him.

RU Reddy is another good one who often falls back on the tried-and-true "getcher guns to pertect you from the federal gubmint!".

And then there's llamajockey, who spams the fuck out of the comment threads every time immigration comes up, expressing his desire to bear Lou Dobbs's love child.

She used to have more sane commenters, but it's a real loony bin over there now. Entertaining, but still kinda sad.

Mr.Fundamental said...

I heart my delusion. I just don't think everyone needs in on it. that's what makes it special and unique!

Anonymous said...

What?

IOZ take a day off?

How dare he?!

To: "anon3:39" and anyone else who was outraged by the Digster the last couple of days, use the link to check out Aurthur Silber's own thoughts on the subject from 4/30.

Mike

Agi said...

no se puede! no se puede!

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Mike, for the reminder to take my daily dose of Silber. He caught something that dropped my jaw, too - Digby's declaration that Wright deserved the "Judas" label much more than Bill Richardson did (as bestowed by James Carville). Implicit comparisons of Obama to Geezus Keerist - wow. Just...wow.