Monday, September 29, 2008

Napoleon on the Radio

Well, what Prof. Sartwell obviously doesn't understand is that Joe Biden isn't a prattling, self-aggrandizing ignoramus; he's an author of high-literary alternate histories. No, seriously. Dude's actually a bullshit artist. Crispy has a few other notes on the liberal problem of Biden-Palin moral non-equivalence, of which this is just about right in substance and tone.

In almost every way, the capitulation of the Democrats' supposed Progressive base to the Necessity of Biden is even more alarming and shameful than the early Republican enthusiasm for their own dumb VP-aspirant. Palin was selected precisely because she reassured an important, realtively more ideological faction within the conservative coalition. She's a small-town, religious conservative, and her moral hypocrisies, which liberals take such pleasure in pointing out, are the moral hypocrisies of small-town and rural life in America. Having to reconcile filial sexuality and pregnancy with public piousness only endears her more to her core supports, as these are precisely the moral dilemmas they face in their own lives. I have news, too, for liberals: we very rarely, any of us, reach solutions to such dilemmas through our own moral consistency.

Progressives, meanwhile, weren't appeased by Biden. On the contrary, they should have been appalled. If Obama's pitiful and weak-willed shuffle toward foreign-policy hawkishness could be painfully explained away by necessity (it couldn't really, but still), then the selection of a war-supporter as running mate should surely have broken the camel's back. In the midst of two disastrous foreign wars and a great unraveling of the American economy, you have the man who perhaps most represents the Democrats' investment in the war and connections to the finance-and-credit industries as the number two man on the ticket--this, apparently, because he is "experienced," a steady hand, a man with knowledge of the issues.

Despite this, he was embraced and is now defended. "Well, what he meant to say was . . ." The difference between Palin and Biden, such as it is, is that Biden is better and more practiced at dishonesty. Sarah Palin stumbles because she hasn't yet developed the skills, and perhaps lacks the intellect, to extemporize fluent false statements and has to resort to the more difficult task of putting discrete, pre-memorized lies into some semblance of order. Biden is smart enough to make the shit up as he goes along. That hardly makes him preferable, ethically or politically. It just makes him an asshole, and his newfound supporters the biggest hypocrites of all.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps you saw Tristero doing his level best after the first debate to live up to the stereotype of the sensible liberal who is only interested in "efficiency" and "competence", no matter what goals these qualities are applied to.

Specifically, he thought it was fan-diddly-tastic that Obama urged NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia, and when called on it by several people, refused to answer the whole "isn't that fucking insane to provoke them like that?" issue, choosing instead to harp on how rational and thoughtful Obama looked when advocating fucking insane ideas, as opposed to Grampa Simpson, who made funny faces and grimaces and wouldn't even look directly at him, ZOMG!!!

Mr.Fundamental said...

I AM NOT A LIBERAL! bitchplease.

I take great pleasure in littering, in driving slow in the fast lane with my signal - no I mean blinker - still on, and in not recycling.

see, I'm not qualified!






wait a sec.

pepper said...

Biden is indeed an embarrassment. I remember when Atrios would write that Biden would never be president because he voted for the bankruptcy bill. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Christopher M. said...

Here's the thing: the handful of liberals who recognized what Biden is have shrugged and said that his selection is one of painful necessity, because the media is biased against them and Republicans pander to their base while Democrats are forced - forced! - to pander to "the center."

But Biden's selection was a pander to Obama's base. It's just that his base isn't who liberals think it is.

Christopher M. said...

And you know what Biden did to win the heart of the rest of the netroots? He made fun of Giuliani, once, on a bit of video that made it onto YouTube.

When you have no agenda other than "more and better Democrats," and no actual ideological commitments to define what "better" means, what you end up with is a glorified ATM devoted to funding whatever party hack promises to pose best for the camera. That Joe Biden is up to his eyebrows in blood and corporate kickbacks is nothing compared to the thrill he gives as a Fightin' Dem.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, christopher m. is right, none of these so-called "progressives" are acting hypocritically at all, Biden appeals to them because he makes the tiniest little pretenses to being a "fighting Dem" because he occassionally says slightly unkind things about Republicans. These people are consumed with the idea of candidates that can show how "tough" they are in contrast to the Republicans because, for whatever reason, they let all that horseshit after 9/11 where they were called traitors and wimps make obsess about having a dick-measuring contest. They LOVE Biden because he projects an aura of being some sort of tough old bastard who will give the Repubs hell, even if the reality is that he's basically a Gentile version of Lieberman who knows where his bread is buttered.

Anonymous said...

Call me naive, but I had hope for Obama up until the day that he selected Biden.

So Obama contradicts his message of change by selecting Biden, and McCain contradicts his message of experience by selecting Palin, and of course both will end up sending more money to the already rich and more soldiers to the Middle East.

NutellaonToast said...

I thought the whole Biden thing was just a misspeak where he said "TV" instead of "radio."

Wasn't Roosevelt sort of famous for the whole "fireside chats" shit where he did exactly what Biden said with what was pretty much the TV of its time, ie Radio.

NutellaonToast said...

But yea, it sucks how much I've come to realize that the difference in the number of people that the two parties would like to blow up is a lot smaller than I'd previously deluded myself into believing.

ran said...

dude's gonna harangue McMelanoma about his mindless support for the Iraq clusterfuck while choosing a running mate with exactly the same piss-poor judgement on the topic?

serious chutzpah.

puppylander said...

now that we've reached moral equivalency, the battle will be between charm (obama) and identity (palin).

marr said...

I'll take this charming man over the beauty queen if that really is our choice.
Smiths > Miss South Carolina

mds said...

Progressives, meanwhile, weren't appeased by Biden.

Nope.

On the contrary, they should have been appalled.

Yup. I certainly was.

If Obama's pitiful and weak-willed shuffle toward foreign-policy hawkishness could be painfully explained away by necessity

Shuffle toward hawkishness? He disapproved of the invasion of Iraq, which didn't make him a dove, just possessed of better judgment than, say, his running-mate or most of his primary opponents.

(it couldn't really, but still)

Actually, it could quite easily be explained away by necessity. Dennis Kucinich didn't get anywhere in the primaries. Ron Paul got further, and even his non-interventionism is tempered by the desire to militarize the Mexican border even more. And even if by some miracle Kucinich had gotten the nomination, he would have been McGoverned into bloody rags. Because the American people are a pack of slavering bloodthirsty morons. Some of them merely sprinkle a wish for ill-defined "competence" on top. And they're the ones reassured by Biden.

Some of us disapprove of picking Biden nonetheless, because it's really revolting how plausibly it can be explained away by necessity.

And even a President Biden (whom we're unlikely to face in 2017, barring accidents) would almost certainly start fewer wars than McCain, who could very well start bombing Spain on inauguration day. Which is a resounding endorsement, if I do say so myself.

So, Biden is a sleazy liar in bed with the Money Power. On balance, I still think I would rather have Nixon than a retarded version of John Calvin hopped up on meth clapping her hands all the way to Gilead.

Or, well, maybe I'll just head for my bunker.

Gridlock said...

Silver lining and all that - if he does make Veep, at least he's off Foreign Relations and we can get someone like Dodd in.

OT - why didn't Nader or Barr qualify for the debates? And when they didn't why didn't they hold something of their own? Fuck, I'd have Nader interspliced into the debate on YouTube, giving his response to the inanity.

IOZ said...

Fewer wars! Change you can hope to believe in!

mds said...

I said it was a resounding endorsement.

Also, can someone help me work "retarded version of John Calvin hopped up on meth" into a more bandname-friendly form?

Ian said...

Fewer wars? I'd settle for smaller, sillier wars. The war of Jenkins' ear? Invade the principality of Sealand?

mds said...

Yeah, I'd be much more reassured if McCain were primarily hellbent on invading his own colon. Not only would it be comparatively cheap, I would wallow in the schadenfreude as the MSM suddenly lost their enthusiasm for "embedding."

NutellaonToast said...

"Fewer wars! Change you can hope to believe in!"

Right, cause it's anarchy or bust. Best to fight for nothing rather than the less than perfect you can actually get.

Go take another hit and fall asleep on the couch, dude. It'll do wonders for the rest of us.

Seriously, you wanna decide that nothing you do matters, enjoy, but mocking those that do the best we can? Why bother? Everyone is easily mocked and there are plenty more deserving than those of us who've resigned ourselves to simply trying to get fewer foreigners blown to smithereens.

Anonymous said...

Apart from passively endorsing Change You Can Believe in from the confines of your computer room, what exactly are you doing, Nutella, to try to "get fever foreigners blown to smithereens"?

Anti-war demonstrations don't count, by the way. Unless they involve bombs or attempted assassinations of high-profile warmongers, etc. etc.

Anonymous said...

Apart from passively endorsing Change You Can Believe in from the confines of your computer room, what exactly are you doing, Nutella, to try to "get fever foreigners blown to smithereens"?

Well, Obama is going to blow up some brown people, but he's gonna get the right ones (possibly). That's the Donkle Difference.

Anonymous said...

if he does make Veep, at least he's off Foreign Relations and we can get someone like Dodd in.

I suppose it's too much to hope for that that was snark?

Chris E. said...

No argument on Biden, IOZ, but isn't this just a routine part of the two-party racket? Veep picks are almost always betrayals of the base because the base is usually locked in to begin with. Palin is different only because, by fluke, the GOP got stuck with a nominee the base can't stand.

IOZ said...

Seriously, you wanna decide that nothing you do matters, enjoy, but mocking those that do the best we can? Why bother?

Doing the best you can involves being kind to people, taking pleasure in your life, eating good food, writing good sentences, achieving mutual orgasms. It doesn't involve two regrettable, but nevertheless distinguishable postwar environments: one where ya got twenty million killed, the other where you got a hundred and fifty million killed!

Mr.Fundamental said...

you and your moral equivalency. next we'll all be dhimmified!

harumph.

captain spaulding said...

Unless they involve bombs or attempted assassinations of high-profile warmongers, etc. etc.

Yeah, cuz when Leon Czolgosz shot McKinley, everything changed after that, didn't it? Ya stupid blithering fuck.

mds said...

achieving mutual orgasms

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

you and your moral equivalency. next we'll all be dhimmified!

Is that what the young people are calling it nowadays?

alansmithee said...

mocking those that do the best we can?

An empty suit and a warmongering old fuck - that's the best you can do?

How about this, you whiny little pwoggie dumbass. STOP FUCKING HELPING US!!!

Paul Daniel Ash said...

Sweet Undead Christ, I love this place.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, cuz when Leon Czolgosz shot McKinley, everything changed after that, didn't it?

And, to up the irony ante, I would've said Gavrilo bloody Princip. What's your point, mate?

Ya stupid blithering fuck.

Well, then. Point to you.

Mr.Fundamental said...

Where as what we have here, a bunch
of fig-eaters, wearing towels on their
heads tryin' to find reverse on a
Soviet tank. This, this is not a worthy
fucking adversary.

dixon butz said...

God, my ribs ache. That quotation is just as fresh as the first hundred times mr. fundamental posted it!

You're boring me, bitch. Waddle your fat ass down to Blockbuster and watch a different fucking movie.

Mr.Fundamental said...

I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.

Anonymous said...

What's your point, mate?

That sneering at people who aren't trying to be the fucking Weathermen is really stupid. I'd love to see this admin. reenacting Mussolini's famous last photo, right down to the oh-so-appropriate gas station, but I'm not dumb enough to think that anyone who actually strung them up by their heels would be doing anything other than making a cosmetic change.

Or, as the anarchist slogan has it, "You can't blow up a social relationship."

Mr.Fundamental said...

Or, as the anarchist slogan has it,"You can't blow up a social relationship."

I think that's a task for The Defeatists.

Anonymous said...

Fuck off with the self-advertisement.

And I'm not advocating assassination, other anonymous. I'm just sayin', if you want to make a difference, go whole hog with the son of a bitch. I'm sick of pansies whining about how underappreciated their contributions are for voting for the Right Candidate. The Right Candidate eats babies and pimps ladies; he's not on the ticket this year.