Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Would You Could You

On 9/11, would you feel safe if Sarah Palin was president?

On 9/11, would you feel safe if the man who picked someone as ludicrously unqualified as Sarah Palin as his running mate was president?

-Tristero @ Digz
The utter crassness and apparent unanimity of the Donk's pivot on the Importance of Experience, now that they have some dummy chick to whale on, is the sort of Soviet touch that makes me suspect our empire may be perne in a gyre, as the poet put it, of greater speed than I'd be otherwise inclined to believe. At first the Experience line was vague, just a thin notion that Palin lacked the requisite CV, that maybe she was a little underqualified, but hey, we'll keep your resume on file for a year and maybe call you if something opens up. Now, however, it has coalesced around the idea that We Live in a Dangerous World. How can this bimbo Keep Us Safe.

The theme of safety within the warm embrace of the fatherland under the watchful eye of a stalwart guardian, i.e. Commander-in-Chief, was of course the central motif of the last Most Important Presidential Election since 1860, and at the time Democrats hollered that this infantile conception of a nation of helpless sheep protected by a watchful, White-House shepherd ran contrary to the Spirit of '76 and Rugged Individualism and Civil Liberties and John Locke and Jesus and god-only-knows-who-else. Much quoting of Franklin on liberty and security. Much hair-pulling and garment-rending over the susceptibility of folks to arguments that they must over-empower their government or else die at the dusky hands of evildoing terrorists.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, glove on the other hand, vice on the other versa, and die-hard partisans like the above-cited want us to contemplate the horror of having some oft-prego chick twirling her hair and reading US Weekly while the barbarians are at the gate. (And I'm cynical, a nihilist! Yoy.) We live in uncertain times. I bet someone's going to haul out the Existentialist Threat any moment now. "Can you trust Sarah Palin to escalate the war in Afghanistan?"

No one, of course, felt safe on 9/11, not even those of us whose first thoughts had to do with homecoming chickens and their roosts. It was a frightful day, although far less so for the 275 million or so of us outside of metro New York and Washington than the typical day in the life of an Iraqi or Afghani or Palestinian, etc. But in the time since we have seen the bipartisan pursuit of precisely those imperial policies which provoked that attack, and since neither John McCain nor Barack Obama nor Sarah Palin nor Joe Biden has sought to repudiate America's policy of invading other countries and blowing other people up, the question of which administration will make me safer is irrelevant; the answer is neither. The question is moot.

31 comments:

Ken said...

I think you mean "mute."

"The question is mute."

Anonymous said...

So which head of the awful monster that is Hullabaloo do you reckon is the dumbest? Most days I think it's Digby, but then once in a while Tristero and d-day pop up their pointy little heads and spit out some sparkling bauble of idiocy, and I'm left dumbstruck and incapable of quantifying which one is the A-1 Imbecile of the group.

Montag said...

Ken, the question is moot, not mute.

it's a case of you-had-to-be-there, but to quote my wife -- arguing with her dad: "i didn't say you can't hear, i said you don't listen." (his response, incidentally: "the doctor says my hearing is fine!" i loved that friggin guy.)

but boiled down, that's pretty well how political conversations go with folks i speak to.

erin4iraq said...

Ken - I bet you are now wishing you had stayed mute.

Folks - It's best to take a look at a dictionary before you try to correct IOZ's grammar or spelling. It's usually right and you'll look like an idiot.

IOZ - I love this post, thanks.

Anonymous said...

Tristero is the worst, not only for his "thinking", such as it is, but for his godawful writing, which always makes me wish for an editor to intercept his posts before they get published.

He actually showed up here in the comments once, did he not? Claiming to be "a liberal not a radical"? I wonder if he'll come back now to enlighten us on his new appreciation for the ends justifying the means...

IOZ said...

Oh, I don't know, I definitely got called out on "suborned" once upon a time.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and apparently, "shadenfreudenous" isn't a real word either!

Montag said...

Yeah, i think the correct term is "schadenfreudian."

Lucas Elam said...

'schadenfreudliche' ich glaube. though schadenfreudian has a nice ring.

didn't Rand write an essay about how a woman shouldn't be president of the USA? I think her reasoning had something to do with that since woman, by 'nature', is supposed to 'look up to' man (or however she put it, it's been a while) she would have a psycho-epistemological crisis or something if she held the most powerful position in the world and therefore there would be no man in the world her superior.

maybe if Palin becomes president that'll signal that the position is no longer the most powerful in world and therefore mark the end of USA hegemony.

if that's the case, I'd campaign for her!

Christopher said...

At the time of 9/11 I had never been to New York, and was living in Portland Oregon.

My thoughts at the time were, mostly, "Great, some assholes killed a bunch of people in some distant place I've never been to. Just another day on planet Earth"

I certainly found it more shocking, terrible and numbing then when I read about some rocket attack or car bomb in the Middle East, but my rational side found it unlikely that the terrorists would start flying airplanes into Big Pink.

I don't think I ever really felt "unsafe," exactly.

You know, we already know what happens when a disaster like 9/11 happens on the watch of a drooling moron, and it turns out that the country actually does okay in that situation.

This is why I don't read Digby anymore.

Lucas Elam said...

I just read the last post and saw how IOZ used 'shadenfreudenous.'

personally, I think it works just fine. if it's not a word it is now.

The Promiscuous Reader said...

Actually, erin, ioz makes quite a few spelling and grammatical errors. So do most people online, and they're usually typos, and it's clear enough what he meant. My personal favorite is "non-demoniational."

I think that ken's correction, though, was sort of a Dan Quayle moment. Remember when DQ said that "potato" should have an "e" on the end?

Justin said...

I thought Ken was taking the normal phrase and phonetically changing it to make the point that when the talking heads on the television talk like this, he turns the box off or volume down. i.e. it is muted.

That is really what I thought.

Anonymous said...

vice on the other versa

Never saw that before---it's a keeper.

But I prefer schadenfreudy to schadenfreudenous.

Anonymous said...

Ioz, I'm picking up what you're laying down re: the Democratic response to Sarah Palin. However, it must be said that you ARE cynical and a nihilist.

You have this really annoying habit of assuming that all your critics are Democratic apparatchiks. It's not as safe an assumption as you assume it is. So stop assuming so much, you ass.

Anonymous said...

Throwing caution, and "erin...'s" advice to the wind, I have to question my Captain:
"Yo" I get.
"Oy" I get.
But, "Yoy"?
Man, I hate having to pull out the OED every third time I come here.
Sucker's heavy.

Mike

Dunc said...

There's an Existentialist threat now? Shit - I thought they just wrote philosophical books.

I felt safe on 9/11 (but then I am in the UK) - at least until I realised that my automatic reaction (cheering) wasn't going down too well...

Burning Flag said...

Dear Zeus on Olympus, now Tristero is on the verge of tears because Palin's secessionist group leader said he hates the US government and flag. Gawrsh, it's so sickening!

Somebody take that twat's keyboard away, please.

IOZ said...

Anonymous commenter insists IOZ stop misrepresenting his anonymous critics at 2:42. The French have no word for entrepreneur.

Anonymous said...

Pennsylvania slang, Mike. Good luck finding that in the dictionary.

My granny used to say it as "Aye yoy!"

Brian said...

Dear Zeus on Olympus, now Tristero is on the verge of tears because Palin's secessionist group leader said he hates the US government and flag. Gawrsh, it's so sickening!

Somebody take that twat's keyboard away, please.

Dump McCain. Palin for Prezzie!

Son of Spam said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84m2orSOaM&feature=related

I'm not quite sure what to say about these two Palin videos.

-SoS

Phillip Allen said...

The 2:42 Anonymity wrote:

"it must be said that you ARE cynical and a nihilist"

Should this Anonymity be lurking around, you should know that those who keep returning to the Font of IOZ do so precisely because he is a cynic and a nihilist. It's a feature, not a bug.

Also if you spend more time here, you'll see that IOZ shares his bile without prejudice, visiting it upon every stripe of delusion.

Anonymous said...

Some of us object to Palin, not because she's a woman, but because she's a nutbag fundy. Tristero could be objecting from that point of view, it doesn't mean that we are He-man woman haters.

Lucas Elam said...

"Some of us object to Palin yada yada.."

I object to Palin cus she's a politician. but obviously an extremely talented politician.

why are you guys trying to convince IOZians of the virtues or villainy of these characters?

my guess is that 60% of this blog's regular readers don't even vote, 20% are foreigners and the rest, dare I say it, 'just don't get it.'

Anonymous said...

As the Angry Anon, I'm totally going to vote. I've already been offered $20 to do so. I'm hoping to end up with twice that.

Lucas Elam said...

"I'm hoping to end up with twice that. "

that's the spirit! "Success Through a Positive Mental Attitude"

apathetic anon said...

Tristero could be objecting from that point of view, it doesn't mean that we are He-man woman haters

If you follow the link above, you'll see that Tristero is soiling his britches over the fact that someone said something disrespectful about the American flag.

Why, yes, that is the sort of thing you normally associate with the far right wing!

mds said...

If you follow the link above, you'll see that Tristero is soiling his britches over the fact that someone said something disrespectful about the American flag.

Actually, I think he's popping a blood vessel that the very same people who have been shrieking for months about "God damn America," Bill Ayers, flag pins, where people's hands are during the Pledge of Allegiance; and who pay homage to Leni Riefenstahl nationalism when staging their conventions; are A-OK with their anointed one having ties to right-wing secessionists.

It's still kinda pathetic ("Wait, you mean they're flagrant hypocrites?"), but not in the way you're taking it.

And given how much Alaska has its hand in my wallet, an amount that has only increased under their reformist governor, I for one would be perfectly willing to say Sayonara to that pack of faux-libertarian parasites. Which probably means I'm attacking Sarah Palin's children.

NutellaonToast said...

Man, it's too bad you guys don't vote. Then maybe things would change towards for the better and we could all stop being nihilists.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think he's popping a blood vessel that the very same people who have been shrieking for months about "God damn America," Bill Ayers, flag pins, where people's hands are during the Pledge of Allegiance; and who pay homage to Leni Riefenstahl nationalism when staging their conventions; are A-OK with their anointed one having ties to right-wing secessionists.

Except for the fact that he never said that, you're right.

No, seriously, Tristero has been on a tear all of a sudden, trying to throw all sorts of marketing ploys against the wall and seeing what sticks. Given that he has no qualms about 9/11 fearmongering - as this post demonstrates - and that he was just explicitly arguing for Dems to start thinking about marketing in lieu of substance, I think it's perfectly accurate to see him here trying out some good old flag worship. Especially since he calls all this "sickening", which quite obviously is not referring to hypocrisy, but rather those unpatriotic statements.