Who Is IOZ?: Rules for Rabblerousers

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Rules for Rabblerousers

People can stand to be told that they're wrong, but explode at any suggestion that they're irrelevant.

36 comments:

SteveB said...: I suggest you check the previous thread to see who was doing the exploding.; 10:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Jesus told me I wasn't irrelevant.
He said, "Hell son, you ain't never irrelevant!"; 10:32 AM
Mr.Fundamental said...: so says shouting-into-the-wind-SteveB.; 10:47 AM
Freiheit said...: so says shouting-into-the-wind-SteveB.

Naw, he'll just form some more unions and things will be ship-shape in no time.; 10:52 AM
periscopedepth said...: Yeah, IOZ! Let the record show that "SteveB" TOTALLY rocked that comment thread on your online weblog that one time, thereby winning a smashing victory for climate change, the Iraq War and open government. I can't believe you missed that.; 10:52 AM
Saurs said...: "I suggest you check the previous thread to see who was doing the exploding."

I was coming, if that helps.; 12:13 PM
AlanSmithee said...: Your scope is too broad, I think. Faux-rabblerouser pwoggie-bloggies don't like it when you point out how utterly irrelevant they are only if you interrupt them while they're proving how utterly fucking irrelevant they are. (Or laying claim to something real rabblerousers did sixty or seventy years ago. That's another pwoggie specialty.); 12:29 PM
Inkberrow said...: Substantive social and political debate can be so very tiresome! Refined sensibilities are not necessarily offended thereby, so long as one remembers the importance of not being earnest.

What's for dinner, and what ARE you wearing?; 12:39 PM
IOZ said...: Substantive social and political debate can be so very tiresome!

As a statement of fact, true. As moral posturing, not so much. Those who use substantive, serious, intelligent, and effective as synonyms are usually none of the above.; 12:45 PM
Mr.Fundamental said...: gawd in heaven please spare me from the utterance of those words. jeezuz. that and "diversity." and "membership campaign."

and people wonder where Sarah Palin came from - she's cultural backlash, baby. program her right and she'll sign accordingly, and raise a line of skin up the right persons spine. that's what it's about.

find me a better bot!; 1:02 PM
SteveB said...: Yeah, IOZ! Let the record show that "SteveB" TOTALLY rocked that comment thread on your online weblog that one time, thereby winning a smashing victory for climate change, the Iraq War and open government.

Thank you. I believe that when future generations look back on that thread - and they will, I can assure you, they will - they'll say, "This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal..."; 1:08 PM
Inkberrow said...: IOZ---you're projecting summat. The problem, as evidenced by this gratuitous jab, and previous jabs, concerning "Rules", and the Foolishness of those who might proffer and debate Standards and Programmes, is not that anyone contributing here really considers "substantive" and "serious" to be "synonymous" with "intelligent" and "effective". Instead, you appear to consider them presumptively antonymous, or even mutually exclusive. T'is ever the pose of the hipster contrarian, and it's reactionary in every sense of the word.

I know, you're one of those hardassess who can only show he Really Cares with fists of love...; 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: "T'is ever the pose of the hipster contrarian, and it's reactionary in every sense of the word."

that's silly. you're silly.; 2:12 PM
Inkberrow said...: Anon 2:12---

Precisely. I posed as serious in a silly way in order to make a serious point about how just about everything is, in the final analysis, silly. At the end of the day, sincerity is the great enemy of good taste and mutual amusement, to the extent they are distinguishable.; 2:46 PM
Mr.Fundamental said...: I can haz discourse?; 3:00 PM
fawk yooz said...: Phaggot please. As much as I love this blog, it's impossible to ignore how deeply, passionately invested your myrmidons are in being right, and how desperately they require you to validate their cynical existences with them purdy words of yours (witness how many humorless cunts couldn't even bear seeing their leader being teased in the infamous Naomi Klein/Wolf post). You've managed to collect the largest group of people on the internet who just live to say "Everything'sFuckedIToldjaSo!!!"

Mr. Fundamental is the only one who genuinely doesn't care about anything, but that's because he's obviously a babbling acid casualty, so I can't give him too much credit. The rest, especially this thing called Alan Smithee, are just as unhinged as any of Digby's commenters. Suggest that maybe their "anarchism" is merely a juvenile, transparent attempt to paint a philosophical veneer over top of being lazy, stupid fucks who're afraid of trying and failing, and they go apeshit.; 4:59 PM
Mr.Fundamental said...: oh Internet, how I love thee.

JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BEREAVED DOESN'T
MEAN WE'RE SAPS!; 6:31 PM
Anonymous said...: fawk yooz,
one thing i still don't get: what's it to you? what if i am a "lazy, stupid fuck" hiding behind a "philosophical veneer"? why would a person like you get so damn angry about it?; 6:48 PM
the_system said...: Suggest that maybe their "anarchism" is merely a juvenile, transparent attempt to paint a philosophical veneer over top of being lazy, stupid fucks who're afraid of trying and failing, and they go apeshit.

Or...

Suggest that maybe their "progressivism" is merely a juvenile, transparent attempt to paint a philosophical veneer over top of being lazy, stupid fucks who think that spamming the comment sections of blogs and voting for Democrats actually counts as trying, and they go apeshit.

Gee, it's almost like this entire mode of argumentation is junvenile, content-less bullshit that can be applied easily and indiscriminantly to anyone you want!

And the pious, aloof, oblivious solemnity with which you fuckers issue forth this shit, more pronouncement than opinion!

I knew there was a reason that I read this blog.; 6:50 PM
Montag said...: i prefer to think of being lazy, stupid and cynical about trying and failing, as a veneer over the futility of having a political philosophy at all.

ps: yeah, IOZ looked like a douche on that Naomi post. a hilarious douche!; 7:00 PM
SteveB said...: what if i am a "lazy, stupid fuck" hiding behind a "philosophical veneer"? why would a person like you get so damn angry about it?

Who's getting angry?; 7:32 PM
Mr.Fundamental said...: fawk yooze would prefer it if we were all out on the street.; 7:59 PM
Anonymous said...: fawk got his ass kicked by smithee multiple times on a now defunct chat site and he's been a red ass whiny little baby about it ever since.; 8:17 PM
IOZ said...: Therefore, Commander Farrell IS Yuri, quod erat demonstrandum.; 8:05 AM
Cüneyt said...: Hey guys. Did I miss anything? I was off saving the world and mattering in general.; 8:21 AM
fawk yooz said...: one thing i still don't get: what's it to you? what if i am a "lazy, stupid fuck" hiding behind a "philosophical veneer"? why would a person like you get so damn angry about it?

Like Steve B said, who's angry? I enjoy IOZ's writing, I enjoy Mr. Fundamental dashing into the room with a bucket on each foot and a cooking pot on his head babbling about who the sweet fuck knows what, and I enjoy the spectacle of seeing a bunch of supposedly jaded anarchists with hair-trigger tempers come oh-so-predictably charging out barkbarkbarkbarking every time their chain gets yanked.

I mean, really - Smithee "kicked my ass" in a chat room? Ohmigawd I am so pwn3d!!1 What is this, a WebTV discussion group? THE LURKERS SUPPORT ME IN EMAIL!; 9:26 AM
Mr.Fundamental said...: Here's a toast to those who can't handle their high; 9:30 AM
SteveB said...: Suggest that maybe their "anarchism" is merely a juvenile, transparent attempt to paint a philosophical veneer over top of being lazy, stupid fucks who're afraid of trying and failing, and they go apeshit.

Actually, if "apeshit" is the reaction you're going for, just the mere suggestion that there might be such a thing a "progress" will do the trick.; 9:52 AM
Freiheit said...: Calmer than you are.; 10:29 AM
Anonymous said...: "Like Steve B said, who's angry?"

you DID call us lazy, stupid fucks. don't you recall?; 12:02 PM
AlanSmithee said...: That's what pwoggie's call "constructive criticism."; 12:58 PM
SteveB said...: Wow! Are you the Alan Smithee? The one who totallly kicked ass on some now defunct chat site? Can I have your autograph? Pleeeze?!; 1:08 PM
fawk yooz said...: you DID call us lazy, stupid fucks. don't you recall?

But I meant it affectionately.

No, seriously, I just noted that others have made that claim, and you guys seem to get awfully defensive about it, almost as if you feel compelled to justify yourselves, rather than just ignoring it or laughing it off, as one might expect of people who really are too jaded to give a hot runny shit.; 2:54 PM
Freiheit said...: It's probably the stupid part more than anything else. Of course we're lazy: we're commenting on a blog in the middle of the day. But stupid? C'mon! Look how smart we are: we're writing things on the internet!; 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Refresh my memory: was Steve the one who got all indignant and suggested IOZ's existence was an affront to his important work? Or was that another self-important, deluded pwoggie dipshit? They all look the same to me.; 9:12 PM
SteveB said...: was Steve the one who got all indignant and suggested IOZ's existence was an affront to his important work?

Sorry, I think you've got me confused with the SteveB effigy you've carefully constructed out of straw.; 7:23 AM

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