BOB GARFIELD: The U.N.’s High Commissioner for Human Rights says that waterboarding is torture. The International Committee of the Red Cross have called what the U.S. did “torture.” Waterboarding is unambiguously in violation of the International Convention on Torture, which has been ratified by 140-some countries.Via Greenwald, I discovered this hilarious and embarrassing foray into damage-control, an ironic sort of circumlocutory question-begging non-response to the proposition that NPR embraces official euphemisms for various acts of official barbarism. The nonpartisan newsmedia has tied a more-and-more Gordian knot in trying to conceptualize itself as a totally neutral non-quantity, neither animal nor vegetable nor mineral, shapelessness motionless in void, forever in never, amen, ad infinitum. I am particularly fond of NPR Ombudsperson Alicia Shepard's notion that "when you detail something and explain specifically what it is, then the public can decide."
It seems to me that the only people who think it’s a debate are the Bush Administration, who are the culprits. So how does that constituent a debate?
ALICIA SHEPARD: Well, there are two sides to the issue. And I'm not sure, why is it so important to call something torture? You know, when you describe the technique, I think that sounds like torture to me. Isn't it the job of the news media to put the facts out there, to give as much detailed information and to put it in context?
BOB GARFIELD: I put it to you that embracing a euphemism for torture validates a political position. You’re trying to be apolitical but, in fact, to embrace terms like “harsh interrogation tactics” instead of calling a thing by its name, in effect, gives credence to the Bush Administration’s argument, does it not?
ALICIA SHEPARD: Yes, I think it does. I think using terms like “harsh interrogation tactics” or “enhanced interrogation techniques” does validate the Bush Administration. So that’s why I said why not just describe it. I think when you detail something and explain specifically what it is, then the public can decide.
There is, of course, a long-established and perfectly usable means of discussing as-yet unproven accusations of wrongdoing, which is to append the crime with the adjective, alleged. Even if one were to accept that NPR's most fervent aim is to avoid prejudicing the, ahem, public, lest Joe Sixpack hastily reach a conclusion without all due deliberation, it would seem that the proper way to describe American torture in this manner, which would avoid both euphemism and the appearance of prejudgment. Oh well. What's fun about Gordian knots is not the tying, but the hacking to pieces later on.
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yesbut, is it still only "alleged" if the perpetrators admit they waterboard, which is defined everywhere as torture? using "alleged" would seem to imply that these claims haven't been substantiated, when for all purposes they have been. so what is being alleged here: that waterboarding = torture? but that is true by definition, according to the sources referenced in the interview, no?
"Alleged torture," then?
Amongst those still watching TV for information, "alleged" is currently defined as "they're guilty without question, but their lawyer might yet get them off."
Perhaps Ms. Shepard fears that this prole degradation has infected her semi-liberal audience; hence, her reluctance to let the A-word near her ten-foot pole.
It has a very Buck Turgidson-esque ring to it. Let's not be so hasty to jump to radical conclusions, people.
I am particularly fond of NPR Ombudsperson Alicia Shepard's notion that "when you detail something and explain specifically what it is, then the public can decide.
In her defense, I'm not so sure that what she's saying there is the same thing that you're implying that she's saying.
There is a difference between deploying the word "torture" to signify a category of legally proscribed behavior (which interpretation Garfield seems to favor) and its application as a pejorative label for the purpose of branding its referent a moral outrage (think Arthur Silber).
It's certainly not unreasonable for Shepard or someone in her position to conclude that, given "the vast and beautiful edifice of the law as an exigent phenomenon," the public debate on the topic is not in any meaningful sense occurring within the legalistic framework and that the use of terminology that is loaded outside of it could unduly prejudice the discussion.
Whoa,el Sistma, Que? It's not torture if the president does it is what Ms Shepard is saying. By the way, it's also what Bush said. We had to do it; when you have to do it it isn't torture. QED we didn't torture. Torture is a crime. Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. To call something which is torture by another name to avoid calling the president a criminal is so laughable that even NPR won't do it, so instead, we get this ridiculous defense of euphemism.
"Legally proscribed behavior"? It's not a war on drugs, but a war on gangs.
It's not torture if the president does it is what Ms Shepard is saying.
Based on the excerpted bit of the interview IOZ provides, that's a very tendentious reading.
It's not a war on drugs, but a war on gangs.
Smoking pot is illegal, brother. The rationalizations given for the fact are immaterial to it.
It's only a crime if the state decides it to be so.
And also, to back up my first comment, the gangs exist only because narcotics are illegal. One can extrapolate that to the semantics of torture, I suppose.
I don't think so, Aaron. Gangs existed before illegal drugs. They exist because of boy culture, perhaps when there are too many males in a society. Probably even the number in our society is excessive. Not all males participate in boy culture, which exalts hierarchies, loyalty, and torture in varying degrees to prove loyalty, but those who do tend to set the tone for many of the others.
So that’s why I said why not just describe it. I think when you detail something and explain specifically what it is, then the public can decide.
OK, let's see how that works:
Before:
One vocal participant in the debate over enhanced interrogation techniques is former Vice President Dick Cheney. Recently he has stepped into the breach to defend the policies of the Bush administration.
After:
One vocal participant in the debate over placing people on an inclined board and pouring water into their nose and mouth to create the sensation of drowning is former Vice President Dick Cheney. Recently he has stepped into the breach to defend the policies of the Bush administration.
Yeah, much better. Only problem is "Morning Edition" will have to be renamed "Morning and Afternoon Edition" and "All Things Considered" will now only have enough time to consider some things.
Gangs are actually symptomatic of political and economic marginality. I mean Meyer Lansky was at my Grandma's Brother's wedding, but there aren't too many Jewish gangsters being produced anymore. Distributing narcotics is quite the business enterprise, but its illegality means that those in the entry level are also the most desperate. If you wanna label the doings of Mara Salvatrucha "boy culture" that is your deal. I don't see how its inherent to the male sex.
"Even if... prejudgment." Never turns into a sentence. What the fuck are you talking about?
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