Thursday, October 08, 2009

What Do You Know?

Well, I would certainly not vouchsafe the truth of any of the beliefs of this IOZ character, but it is interesting how many people look at the world and conclude: the people who do not believe as I believe do not really believe what they believe; the people who do not think as I think do not really think what they think. From this mindset arises a sort of Ptolemaic model of the universe of the human mind, piled high with epicycles, seeking to explain what various interests and counterinterests drive people to so universally misrepresent their true beliefs, which are necessarily my own, of course, because how could anyone believe otherwise? Add to this miasma the fact that we are all, each precious flower among us, deeply inconsistent, that there is no such thing as ideology, that what we flatter as "systems" of thought and belief are constructs of almost pure contingency and exigency, and you end up with white noise, a buzz in the background.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Shit IOZ, THAT I can agree with.

IOZ said...

Haha. Then what good are you? We'll never break 100 this way.

Anonymous said...

You lie!

Anonymous said...

You lie!

Brian M said...

I am no delicate flower, but a pure cystalline structure, impenetrable and serene! You lie!

Inkberrow said...

I'm on board with this reconfiguration. I imagine I'm not alone in preferring meta-discussion about meta-rape, at where exchanging bon mots is the object. And subject.

Anonymous said...

Plus, when you die, you will achieve total consciousness....so I figure you got that goin' for you.

Jason0x21 said...

Actually, it's really a very simple worldview: The rest of you are out of your god-damned minds.

Anonymous said...

You are hanging around progressives too much. Rational people have principles and consistent ideology. Thou shall not steal, rape is wrong, slavery is immoral, etc.

Jess said...

Oh come on, anon. All of those customs are rational in the right contexts. It's fine for you to prefer a different context, from an aesthetic point of view, but let's not pretend that any rational actor doesn't follow his own interest.

IOZ, apologies about the "trolling the moralists" comment in the last thread.

Anonymous said...

You didn't mean that.

drip said...

Thou shall not steal. But me, sure, once in a while, when I need to, from a deadbeat, someone the square community won't give a shit about. But Thou, it would be wrong for Thou, so, no, Thou shall not steal.

Anonymous said...

Fly straight, die hard, and don't take any wooden nickels.

Idi said...

You know in some parts of the world child soldiers and rape are very effective tools when waging war, which begs the question. What's worse, using children as soldiers or as shields?

Anonymous said...

Very effective tools at what?

the_system said...

I know it's futile at this point in the evolution of the English language, but...

The phrase "begs the question" means "the premises of your argument assume the thing(s) you are trying to prove."

It does not mean "raises the question."

That is all.

Jim Wetzel said...

the_system, you are correct. I think, though, that the fault lies with the term "begging the question," which sounds not at all like what it means.

Still, instead of abusing the term, we should simply kill it.

Anonymous said...

there is but one truth

kantians do it as an end-in-itself: the teleological suspension of the sexual--the scatological imperative!

TGGP said...

That's just your false consciousness talking.

Anonymous said...

Dear IOZ, I love your erudition and whimsical nature but I recommend three rounds with the "Galactic Ghost" in the machine over at Rigorous Intuition to rinse off your weltschuung :D

-Your #1 Fan

Anonymous said...

we know what we are but not what we may be. Fate will turn the tables on IOZ, as surely as on Alec Guinness in Captain's Paradise.

Anonymous said...

The white noise buzz in the background is my ideology.

Daniel said...

I really want a post about our warrior in chief winning the NPP.

Mr.Fundamental said...

this thread is fun an stuff but I'm afraid that this is like manna from heaven. BLAWG on bitches.

Mr.Fundamental said...

overheard at work 3 min ago: "what did HE do? what did he do to win anything? he hasn't gotten us out of anything yet. none of the troops have come home. it must be some top secret panel or something with special rules. they must know something about him that we don't."

Montag said...

here's a link to what it was like when Mr. Fun got the news Obama had won the Nobel Peace Prize.

erin4iraq said...

yep, this about seals the deal on that antichrist thing

Anonymous said...

So then I stumble upon Chesterson's Heterodoxy....

Anonymous said...

Correction. Chesterson's Heretics.

Mr.Fundamental said...

and if it weren't for the deep inconsistencies, we wouldn't be real. we'd have lofted off into the ether, the realm of pure forms. (harhar) but no, nobody is interested in ... ah, fuck it. BLAWG! I just hope the white noise doesn't give you a headache.

Keifus said...

Hell, I can't even convince myself to believe what I believe. Were I to pen a version of your last sentence, I would undoubtedly be projecting myself onto the ever-ephemeral system.

Anonymous said...

White noise is the Black Hole of critical thought process. There were cars getting 50 mpg over 30 years ago (hello Datsun 210), but doesn't Jimmy Carter look dorky asking people to put on a sweater? Now Ronald Reagan, there's a Marlboro Man who could sell a cigarette to The Shah of Iran.

Anonymous said...

Nice Tim Leary impersonation, mossier.