Monday, November 09, 2009

The Feeling of Power

Now I am going to disagree with Prof Crispy when he writes:

so people do a lot of wrong things. "the west" does a lot of wrong things. it will lob a missile from a predator drone into your wedding, which looks like terrorism. and the evil of such things needs to be described and exposed bit by bit. but the logic is, for all that, utterly different: comprehensible even if wrong etc. both acts might be evil, even equally evil, but they are evil in fundamentally different ways. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is just wrong. no one is a freedom fighter in virtue of killing whoever happens to be present, victimizing people without any connection to a cause or comprehensible strategy for pushing it forward.
How does "[lobbing] a missile from a predator drone at a wedding party" serve "a cause or comprehensible strategy for pushing it forward"? I think the plain answer is: it doesn't, really. Or, it does, but not in the way that Crispin's text implies. And I think that no matter how far back you draw, how deftly and capably you examine the stated and unstated intentions of the "state actor" that was the ultimate cause of that predator drone firing that missile at that wedding party, no matter how capably you slice and dice the arguments from humanitarianism or the arguments from self-defense or the argument from economic self-interest (i.e., oil, pipelines, etc.), you end with actual actions, pardon the redundancy, that are "well beyond stupid," incomprehensible on any terms, even their own.

Now there are clearly differences between committing violence by proxy on behalf of the United States of America and committing violence by blowing oneself in the name of Allah and the Prophet and what have you, but I simply do not accept that these events are so fundamentally distinct as to constitute wholly separate teleological categories, which is where I think the Prof's argument inevitably ends up. The US and its allies are pursuing a hopeless mish-mosh of unarticulated and ineffible and wholly fantastic goals: regional hegemony, economic dominance, control of resources, humanitarian assistance, The Womyn!, some semblance of religious pluralism, democratization, universal franchise, freedom, whiskey, sexy. Well, okay. And the American state and its allies have constituted an armed hierearchy that gives orders down a long chain of command, at the end of which a bullet or bomb finds a body. Kaboom! The terrorist who blows himself up in a marketplace is the poor, sorry end of a similar, albeit much shorter, abstraction of violence from its source. So the terrorist does it for Mohammed and the soldier does it for Uncle Sam. So what? In the end, both sow sufficient violence, confusion, terror, and uncertainty that no opposing group can exercise meaningfully universal control.

Consider. What are we doing in Afghanistan? After all the dross has been peeled away, the most comprehensible, consistent, and coherent explanation remains: we are there to deny the Taliban and their allies control. Now it would be wonderful if Hamid Karzai discovered his inner Jeffersonian (well, Hamiltonian, but are we gonna split hairs?), but in the meantime, this is it. Rubber on the road. Deny the Taliban the country. Into the cracks and fissures around this goal flow such minor boons as the pipelines and the Womyn and the occasional stab at democracy. And what are our enemies but a mirror image, enacting violence and sowing chaos and dissension to deny America and its allies control. Into the cracks and fissures around this goal flow such minor boons as . . . It is mere attrition. To whom will the cost become too high first? The differences are all in the economies of scale. To America, it seems more sensible to use robots and missiles. To the Taliban, the terrorist, whomever, it seems more sensible to use people. There are more of them. They are eminently replacable--they can be manufactured with a minimum of infrastructure, you know? There is an old, classic Asimov story about a future society in which the long use of computers has denied man the knowledge of mathematics, until a hobbyist reverse engineers arithematic from the workings of the antique calculators that he builds for fun. The leaders of this society are overjoyed. They have been engaged in a long and costly interstellar war. But computers for missiles are so expensive, whereas a human pilot . . .

38 comments:

Leonard said...

That guy needs to learn about capital letters.

Leonard said...

As for what "strategy" attacking weddings serves, it is: kill enemies. This seems so abundantly obvious that I hesitate to explain. But for those raised with only unicorns and fluffy bunnies: the idea is that if you want to prevent a man from doing something, you kill him.

TGGP said...

I would have thought the difference would be in intentional vs mistaken killings of civilians.

TGGP said...

Leonard:
There are probably more weddings than we are willing to spend missiles on. Declaring all weddings to be gatherings of enemies would thoroughly screw up the actual strategy in place (which may or may not be mistaken). From what I've heard the trouble is that weddings often feature celebratory gunfire, leading the military to conclude they are something other than weddings.

Coldtype said...
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Coldtype said...

How about when the death of civilians is entirely the point? Clearly those who actively resist our depredations in the Af/Pak campaign enjoy massive popular support otherwise they would have been rolled up long ago.

Where have we heard this tune before? Oh yes, in Vietnam where most of our ordinance fell atop the civilian population in the South.

the_system said...

I would have thought the difference would be in intentional vs mistaken killings of civilians.

If you know that doing something will kill civilians (like instituting a program to use unmanned drones to fire missiles at targets you acquire via nothing more than the hearsay your intelligence apparatus generates) and you do it anyway, then you have intentionally killed civilians.

Everything else is petty rationalizing.

la Rana said...

I think I disagree with every single aspect of Crispy's analysis. He's got the whole thing upside down inside out and backwards. Its ranting and nonsensical at points. Every "therefore" is preceded by an "is." Its equal parts reluctant pacifism and aspiring racism.

He seems to be on his way to declaring that this type of violence is not associated with sunni muslims through an accident of history, but rather.....

fish said...

sowing chaos?

Although you can sew the seeds of violence.

JRB said...

The Womyn!

IOZ said...

Oh geeziz. Thanks fish. Corrected.

Inspector Lee said...

You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

Fucking amateurs.

Anonymous said...

With nailpolish!

Anonymous said...

This aggression will not stand.

NutellaonToast said...

I'm not sure how the Afghani's learning quantum mechanics helps anything, but otherwise, yeah. I'm not sure how targeting specific civilians to kill (terrorism) is any fucking different from engaging in an activity in which an unknown but certainly large number of random civilians will be killed (war). One could maybe argue for a non-trivial difference in the desired ends, but there are only trivial differences in the preferred means that stem more from logistics than anything else.

TGGP said...

I didn't click the link to Crispin earlier. Shocked by his ignorance of Shia suicide bombing (though I think the Tamils might have pioneered it), glad someone called him out on it.

the_system:
On a large enough scale pretty much anything is bound to kill innocent people. Issuing guns to police will, and so will issuing tasers. Being a fan of Greene & Cohen on neuroscience and consequentialist law, I'm open to changing currently accepted distinctions between intentional and reckless/negligent behavior, but it would be a pretty significant change from the status quo.

Mr.Fundamental said...

It's a
complicated case, Maude. Lotta ins.
Lotta outs. And a lotta strands to
keep in my head, man. Lotta strands
in old Duder's--

Enron said...

Without the Taliban, there is no hostage, and without a hostage, there is no ransom. That's what a ransom is. Those are the fucking rules!

Anonymous said...

But... but...

we burn their bodies on Earth, so that their souls can be saved in Heaven!

See, the auto-da-fe is mother-church's love for the sinner, man. LOVE!

The (papist) Christians

Crispin said...

i guess i do think there's a wholly different teleology. just look at the total anxiety about setting goals, defining victory, setting an exit strategy etc etc: you can't understand what we're doing except in tems of technological rationality. now that's not to suggest that what we're actually doing is not problematically related to that. but say you showed obama that drone attacks had no tendency to push forward the goals as he understands them in pakistan or whatever. he would stop. say you showed that to the guy running the suicide bombings. i don't think he would actually find that relevant, basically, no mater what he may say on this or that occasion.

Mr.Fundamental said...

oh dear. I'm waiting for the Colonel Jack D Ripper to arrive. any minute now.

Montag said...

say you showed obama that drone attacks had no tendency to push forward the goals as he understands them in pakistan or whatever. he would stop.

even if this were true, he would deserve no credit. the willingness to take an action knowing it will result in civilian deaths in the pursuit of political goals is the definition of terrorism. whether the attacker believes it is an effective strategy is moot.

also, "the total anxiety about setting goals, defining victory, setting an exit strategy," is a fiction.

Kafka said...

The practitioners of non-state violence have long ago shifted most of their violence toward state and military targets. And when they do use terrorism, it's mostly a tactic to compliment their military strategy. The World Trade Centers were, arguably, military targets and the Pentagon and intended White House certainly were military targets. The stated purpose of 9/11 was to draw the US military into an Afghanistan quagmire where a war of attrition could be won by Sunni Muslims fighting the US military (drawing them here so we can fight them here). The 2006 Israel-Hezbollah War was the 'new' strategy's finest example (although Shi'a instead of Sunni). Hezbollah started it by using rocket attacks to draw the Israeli military into an ambush. Hezbollah successfully used anti-tank missiles against two armored Humvees and killed or captured 7 Israeli soldiers. That attack and the killing of five more failed rescuers was meant to draw Israeli tanks into the deeply defended Lebanese border. When the tanks came, 5 were completely destroyed and another 47 damaged (22 of those penetrated). Israel gave up it's ground attack almost entirely. It then became an air war on both sides. 117-119 Israeli military were killed and 43 Israeli civilians. About 500+ Hezbollah fighters killed with 1000+ Lebanese civilians killed (30% of that estimated to be children). Israel killed roughly twice as many civilians as combatants-- while Hezbollah killed more than twice as many soldiers as civilians. That's not moral equivalence- that's a clear moral win by Hezbollah.

Non-state actors have learned, for the most part, that cameras are everywhere and in the age of YouTube- better that the West is shown blowing up children instead of them. Both sides are trying to recruit young men, and the young men want to be heroic Davids, not Goliath kicking down doors in the middle of the night dragging poor families out of bed. A vid of them taking out an Apache or Abrams kicks ass on anything 5th Avenue can come up with.

Christopher said...

but say you showed obama that drone attacks had no tendency to push forward the goals as he understands them in pakistan or whatever. he would stop. say you showed that to the guy running the suicide bombings. i don't think he would actually find that relevant, basically, no mater what he may say on this or that occasion.

What? What the hell makes you think that?

Honestly, now. How much money has the US put into destructive endeavors that quite clearly aren't accomplishing anything? How's that war on drugs working out? Marijuanna must be pretty unpopular by now. And our embargo on Cuba doesn't seem to be doing a whole hell of a lot, either.

This idea that we in the USA are governed by logic and would put a stop to bad behavior if clear evidence emerged that it didn't help us is just... how can you even say that with a straight face?

And, on the other side of the issue, what the hell makes you think an attitude of "Those fucking [insert group here]'s are destroying society. I'm gonna go kick the ass of the first [insert group here] I see!" is some kind of incomprehensible modern philosophy and not, you know, one of the most common impulses in human nature?

Mr.Fundamental said...

sorry. General Jack D Ripper.

Good luck to you all.

El Serracho! said...

what he (christopher) said

Enron said...

Franz, were you listening to the Dude's story?

NutellaonToast said...

Shorter Crispin: The unfounded belief in the efficacy of American violence by Americans would be based on ignorance only. The unfounded belief in the efficacy of brown people violence by brown people would be the result of their histrionic and irrational nature. The efficacy of either form of violence is something no one could have predicted.

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Anonymous said...

"Consider. What are we doing in Afghanistan?

Having taken some time this morning to consider it, I still don't know. Any on you folks know?

Anonymous said...

helpfully, david brooks today reminds us of the difference: they are evil.

Aaron said...

Crispin:
the problem may be that the institutional hierarchies which train and dispatch suicide bombers don't do their goal-setting defining victory etc. in the English-language mass media. Do you really doubt that they are doing so? That is an odd belief to me.

On the other side of the coin, the irrational component of the U.S. war effort has been striking from day one. The bureaucratic milestones of standard state planning are not necessarily a contradiction of raw animal aggression. The concept of "rationalization" seems appropriate here.

Anonymous said...

I think yogi berra and that aflac duck should start making Af/Pak commercials, and that these commercials should be basically identical to the aflac commercials.

Charles F. Oxtrot said...

maybe Crispy should just assume that the whole point of being in Afghanistan is to pretend at "war" for the profiteering war provides, and the destabilization of Afghani people that this particular "war" provides.

Exit strategies? Who the fuck cares about those? Those are ideas punted about in the "media" to obscure the fact that war is about profiteering, not military strategy & military victory.

Mr.Fundamental said...

war is our business.

Quietdown said...

Damn, a slick summary of "The Feeling of Power" used as punctuation...

Respect.

Also,

"Seventeen," said the general.

"And you, Congressman?"

"Twenty-three."

proves Asimov was a closet Discordian.

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