Martha Nussbaum's thinking reminds me of the clickety-clack of an old Selectric, the warm scratch of a much-played album. It has a certain visceral appeal. With the infinite human capacity for nostalgia, I can imagine lugging it around and praising its warmth, its palpability. But let's not be mawkish. It's an out-of-date technology, long-since surpassed by superior platforms. Oh and by the way did you know that she was born Martha Craven. Now that is a cognomen a philosopher with a bent toward the Classical world would do well to cover up.
Via the ever-entertaining links at Bookforum, I came across Nussbaum crafting a strained metaphor, likening sexuality to religion in order to make an American-Constitutional case for gay marriage on No Establishment and Free Exercise grounds. In the first place it is strained because what about pedophilia or ephebophilia or transgenderism or polyamory or master-slave S&M or intense coprophilia? I mean, the free exercise of religion permits Scientology. Will Martha Nussbaum's free exercise of sexuality permit polyandry? That the crass slippery slope arguments of the rightwing box-turtle brigade so swiftly expose this rot at the root of the mainstream devotees of legalized sexual equality should prick our noses to the blood in the water.
What to make of this?
…Now let’s think about sex…For many if not most people, it is a central part of one’s search for the meaning of life. Even if sex is in many ways unlike religion, it is like it in being intimately personal, connected to a sense of life’s ultimate significance, and utterly nontrivial. Like religion, it appears to be something in which authenticity, or the involvement of conscience is central. We understand that it goes to the heart of people’s self-definition, their search for identity and self-expression.Personally, I just like to fuck, and although I have surely had some "utterly nontrivial" encounters in my time, I measure their ultimate significance in inches. It is hard to make conscience central to anything involving poppers, let us say. And I do not deny--indeed, I celebrate--that the comingling of souls in certain sexual encounters can indeed exceed the highest religious raptures and bring minds into union, wherefore there were two, then there was one . . . all that jive and flowers. But sometimes I just really want to come all over an undergraduate musical theater major's pretty face, and I refuse to bog down the purity of that entertainment with some dowdy discussion of ecstasy and joy. If the route to sexual equality is the cathedral road, then no thank you. Reifying a new normalcy only lays down new boundaries to be once again traduced in an endless, tiresome cycle of moral posturing and bad-faith argument.
Permit everything. Approve nothing.
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IOZ is talking about dicks again.
the white ribbon is worth seeking out.
"And I do not deny--indeed, I celebrate--that the comingling of souls in certain sexual encounters can indeed exceed the highest religious raptures and bring minds into union, wherefore there were two, then there was one . . . all that jive and flowers. But sometimes I just really want to come all over an undergraduate musical theater major's pretty face,"
Well, no shit. That's why we have Yom Kippur AND Purim.
Sex. The physical act of love. Coitus. Do you like it?
How about "ALLOW everything"? I don't wanna have to get a permit. Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where they proposed placing a tax on "thingy."
here's one for ya.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1001w.benen.html
penis goes where?!
intense coprophilia
I like my coprophilia more on the mild side, thank you very much.
is "poppers" a typo or am i outta my league here?
IOZ's just showing his age, druff.
Nonsense, Chris. They're ironic. Like vinyl, or hornrims.
Poppers are ironic now?
What about gas masks?
What on earth does sex have to do with marriage?
Marriage keeps the sex industry going?
...A natural, *zesty* enterprise...
I didnt find it to be that, exactly
Because sexuality is entirely rational. Also marriage as an institution is as successful as Lehman.
Christopher, plenty of youngsters are nitrate inhalant fiends. Maybe they are out of fashion in your age cohort where you live, but popper use in no way stratifies by age in my experience.
Wonderfully well said, Maître. I get the point that bourgeois rights should be universal, but don't understand the passionate drive some feel to, say, get legally married or serve in the military. Me, I just want to be a buddy having fun helping my buddies have fun.
urbandictionary, "poppers" usage example:
bottom looking for top to use my starfish... popper friendly
sooo like gay whip-its? ah well, i still think "poopers" would have worked okay there too.
Jesus, Enron, just fucking stop. You goddamn fucking suck.
If I've said it before, I've said it a thousand times ... "Play some more of that scary music, IOZ".
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0052840/
Can you imagine Gene coming all over Ethel's pretty face?
It's an out-of-date technology, long-since surpassed by superior platforms.
Nonsense. I still get excellent material out of my Clark Nova.
Well do I remember the first time my boyish balls woke me from my sleep with a pent-up shot of religion. The metaphor is perfect
Religion is intensely personal in the castrated form found in the post-enlightenment west, where it has been reduced to the status of "favorite philosophy". Religion generally is communal and more about orthopraxy than orthodoxy.
I'm amused by the recent anonymous Enron-hate-spate, though I don't quite understand it.
Inspector Lee, I'm sure you do get excellent things from your Clark Nova... as long as you rub that bug powder in just right.
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At least, that was the handle his lovin' parents gave him, but he never had much use for it himself. This Lebowski, he called himself the Dude. Now, Dude, that's a name no one would self-apply where I come from.
IOZ, your sex life is weird
from the simpsons:
"marriage is like a car. it gets dinged up over time, and america can't make one that lasts more than five years."
My love life? I was talking about sex.
You mean, coitus?
What do you need that for, Dude?
Orthopraxy in the west has in stasis attained to the praxis of the crux of the matter, viz., orthopruxy vis a vis the vos of the attainment, wherein sex, per se, as it were, orthodoxes, & the stigma, once attained, bears the relation, so-called, of the coitus, which, being transmitory but at one remove, nevertheless preposes _in some way_ and propounds the fundamental movement of the matter, which is, viz., cf., summa cum, & trust the process. As an artist I see the underlying subtext of the character's development toward a kind of static nonmovementum, a kind of ubertext as it were flarping out the woo-hole
"But sometimes I just really want to come all over an undergraduate musical theater major's pretty face . . ." Me too, but there's aspiration and then there's . . um . . . consummation.
Oh IOZ, sometimes your nihilism gets a little depressing. Let the nice people keep their sentimental veneers.
This weird dominance behavior of ejaculating on people's faces is unpleasant to hear about. Frankly, I don't think that people who do things like that to each other should be allowed to marry. At the very least, talking about it in public should be grounds for twenty game suspension.
She's not my special lady, she's my fucking lady friend. I'm just helping her conceive, man!
"I just really want to come all over an undergraduate musical theater major's pretty face..."
Notice, the *undergraduate* qualification.
Sex aint religious, it's power. But IOZ, seeing as this bonny twee lad is a musical theater major, he oughta have quite the jaw/throat control - so you might be cheating yourself there.
Also, he has to be pretty, because then sex is, like, more fun, man.
I see you've forgotten about our little talk, Enron. I'm not going to warn you again, you wretched fuckstick.
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but then of course, martha's frame is stereotypically female. in other words, while many of you aren't bothered by "authenticity", i'm not sure i'd say women feel the same way.
so maybe it's just incorrect to conceive of "sex" as not inherently self-limiting (because "sex" used here is too broadly generalized across gender to be meaningful).
i've maybe poorly worded.
My love life? I was talking about sex.
Love life? I thought the thrust of your post was that love was for chumps?
I measure their ultimate significance in inches
At least you came off that way
"an undergraduate musical theater major"
The stage is set
Cue song
"He'll be coming on my face when he comes..." until the climax of the crescendo.
What does it say about you, Moloch, that you write:
"This weird dominance behavior of ejaculating on people's faces ...
instead of :
"This weird submission behavior of allowing ejaculation on one's face ..."
Takes two for that particular tango, you know.
@Anon 7:02
"Sex is Power"
Only in America , bro. It's the prison camp roots of the placend showing, I guess.
The Christians
Uh huh. Which is why she said "many" and "most," not "all" or "always."
But carry on with your endless, tiresome cycle of pretension and intellectual vacuity! *smooches*
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