Plainly I haven't got the mind of a partisan. I just don't understand this sort of hack job, wherein it is conceded that the Democrats are fucking you sideways, from which proceeds a series of speculations on how this brutal fuckeration is going to affect their electoral prospects in 2010. Like, IF THE DEMOCRATS KEEP FUCKING US OVER, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO MOTIVATE US TO ELECT MORE DEMOCRATS. Says La Digs:
Seriously, if you live in Massachusetts, do get yourself out to vote for Martha Coakley and volunteer to help if you can. A loss will be so devastating that I'm afraid the Democrats will end up calling to invade Yemen and institute shoot to kill orders for illegal immigrants if they don't win this race.Yo, Digby, it's whatchacall a fait accompli. Dad, Jesus, and the Spook, girlfriend, what's the plan here? To make sure that your asshole takes the mandate to do exactly the same shit that the other asshole would do in her place? Can't you let the people of Massachusetts call in sick and go sled riding in peace?
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They're gonna kill that poor woman.
Reading briefly through the comment section and I think I see a hint of something that might conceivably called, if you close your eyes and open your ears and look real hard....the early outline of understanding.
Not an understanding that the whole system is rotten, not that, no, but an understanding that maybe its better to stay home than vote for their faux representatives.
Baby steps, dudes, baby steps.
P.S. it was only a BRIEF read just in case someone here finds true believers down thread.
Oh Dude, come on man this affects all of us. Our basic freedoms! I'm voting. And I'm finishing my coffee.
To make sure that your asshole takes the mandate to do exactly the same shit that the other asshole would do in her place?
Well, in this case with somewhat less slut shaming, fag bashing, wetback scapegoating, and pantswetting over "terrorists" having rights; but otherwise, pretty much. Using military attacks on other nations as a means of distinguishing between Demos and Repubs is a fool's errand, unless you live in the right part of Greater Cleveland.
God dammit, IOZ. It's called "sledding".
"Well, in this case with somewhat less slut shaming, fag bashing, wetback scapegoating, and pantswetting over "terrorists" having rights"
you have not been paying attention.
Only queers go sled riding.
you have not been paying attention.
Yeah, actually I have, which is why I used the term "somewhat less." To you there might not be a dime's worth of difference between supporting the MA court decision on gay marriage and wanting to overturn it via referendum, but it matters a little bit to some of us. At least those of us in the wedding catering business.
On the other hand, if Coakley goes to Washington, she does have a fair chance of reluctantly jettisoning reproductive rights, gay rights, etc., in return for a mess of pottage, while Teabagging Male Model Brown will continue to brag about being the 41st vote. Hence "somewhat less" rather than "no."
Sled riding, bare backing, whatevs
You really ought to hang out more around the pwoggie blogs, IOZ. Diggly-Wiggly is just doing her mandated quota of GOTV for their masters and betters. Like most pwoggies, she doesn't really give a shit about who gets elected to what or who's gonna be the next top fucking model. She's just making sure she gets her invite to YearlyKoswhack and doesn't get bumped off the listserv.
I mean, really, the only alternative explanation for that kind of sub-moronic behaviour would be that she's the child of incestuous parents who lived above a nuclear waste dump and snorted PCB laced plutonium on a regular basis - because that's how much a genetically fucking damaged moral cretin you'd have to be to vote for such obvious scumbag republicrats.
But, on the other hand, she has a tremendous singing voice....
"Look at it... a young trophy wife, in the parlance of our times, you know, and she, uh, uh, owes money all over town, including to known pornographers, and that's cool... that's, that's cool, I'm, I'm saying, she needs money, man. And of course they're going to say that they didn't get it, because... she wants more, man! She's got to feed the monkey, I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?"
that had not occurred to us, Dude.
Is it a hack job, or Stockholm Syndrome?
Hey Smithee, the internet was originally, like, a project of the military and stuff, so to maintain your sparkling purity, you might want to never use it again.
Also, oxygen. History's greatest monsters breathed it. Boycott it!
Seriously, the "Holden Caulfield in the throes of roid rage" shtick is really boring, despite the hysterical melodramatics. Please kill yourself. No, really.
"At least those of us in the wedding catering business."
i can honestly say that i was unaware that not having the same state subsidies for their relationship stopped gay couples from celebrating that relationship. who knew!
who knew!
It's a common misperception, made understandable by the fact that most hetero couples opt for entirely personal ceremonies rather than state-sanctioned legal unions. Glad I could help reveal that wacky, unconventional side of gay culture.
So racially she's cool?
Purity of essence? We propose abstention and are accused of heresy!
I screams at BAD STUFF on the intarwebs.
For FREEDOM!
the state, forever the state as my guiding beacon.
fugg kew:No, no, no, no, NO. Do not respond to A Smithee, it only encourages him.
I love the nonny mice's lack of precise aim toward Smithee.
One of the greatest pleasures is seeing lib-wools and pwoggies trying to out-clever someone who clearly is the superior wit... and taking a pratfall in the bargain.
Well done, nonny mice.
Oh the sting, the pain, the humiliation. Put in my place by a self-described "sniper of bullshitters" defending the most addle-brained blogger on the planet.
The horror, the horror.
Sniper of bullshiters. Shit cracks me up everytime.
We propose abstention and are accused of heresy!
she goes out and owes money all over town and they pee on my rug?
The difference is Digsby is inside McDonald's re-arranging the sandwiches to re-create items from the breakfast menu and getting her "inner chef" on.
IOZ on the other hand still think it's funny to ask the kid on the register if they serve ghee.
I know zero about the Massachusetts Senate race, and I don't believe progressives should necessarily vote for Democrats. In some past elections, I've even voted for Republicans over what I saw to be corrupt Democratic incumbents (I'm more tolerant of crazy politicians than corrupt ones, except possibly as president, who has access to nukes) and have cast plenty of votes for fringe candidates, and even tried sitting out an election (all of these different strategies wound up having the exact same effect, but then I live in New York).
But to defend Digby, no matter what each voter does someone will be the junior Senator from Massachusetts. These positions never go unfilled. If you don't vote, you get treated to newspaper editorials saying its good that turnout is low because the people not voting are ignorant and don't really care. And someone still gets elected Senator.
In this situation, I'd probably look at who the Libertarians are running, but are there really no differences between Coakley and the Republican? None at all? Maybe one will be better at the constituent service stuff even if their policy issues are the same?
The Republican Party is also really headed into a dark place. I think we are going to have more elections in this country like the Edwards -Duke election, where bumper stickers said "vote for the crook. Its important." Maybe that should have been Digby's argument.
Anyone seen this post by Digby that follows a bit after the one linked by IOZ here?
"Pick up your muskets, kids, or STFU."
So apparently the only two options are continue with the dead-end strategy of voting for "more" and "better" Democrats or... revolution!!
Partisan hack is about right.
Btw, what's going on with the comments at Digby's place? Did she turn them off or something? They don't seem to be showing up.
Smithee's wit is so superior, he has to use multiple sockpuppets to contain it all. Sometimes in the same thread!
But yeah, that wit -- "Diggly-Wiggly"! That's what he calls Digby! Get it? Cuz her name is Digby, and, um, you see, "Diggly-Wiggly", um, ah, heh heh. Heh. Mark Twain? Jonathan Swift? Move the fuck over!
Actually, given the incredible similarities, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that Charlie is just the latest Smithee alter-ego. Dude, it really is beyond pathetic when you get busted repeatedly for using sockpuppets to fluff yourself and yet, you keep doing it, like a retarded kid who thinks covering his eyes makes him invisible.
Smithee's often good for a laugh, not sure what the animosity is about. might he be using multiple sock puppets to generate a sense of notoriety?
Hey, IOZ! Digby strikes back!
"It's indisputably true that the political system is run by wealthy plutocrats and much of what passes for democracy is kabuki. Same as it ever was, I'm afraid. But that's not exactly the point. It's still worth participating, doing what you can, containing the damage, stopping the bleeding, fighting the fight --- for its own sake. After all, history shows that humans have managed, somehow, to actually make progress over time. You just can't know what will make the difference.
If you don't think that's worth anything, however, you do have a choice. The obvious alternative, as PinNC wrote in TBOGG's comments, is this:
If you really think that the political system is broken beyond repair, you have a blueprint from the 1770s to help you out.
Pick up your muskets, kids, or STFU."
ZING!
Either vote straight Democrat or organize a violent revolution, folks. It's clear as can be!
"Ve belief in nothing, Lebowski!"
Can I ask an earnest question for a moment? I'm new.
Let's assume youse got one of them thar problems, and a system (ostensibly) to fix problems.
It looks (to me) like you've got a couple options:
1. Ignore the problem.
2. Use the system to fix the problem.
3. Modify the system so that you can fix the problem.
4. Scrap the system and replace it with a better one to fix the problem.
5. Do nothing and hope the problem doesn't get intolerably worse.
Which of these you pick to deal with any particular problem will depend on how deeply entrenched the problem is, and how much you care about it.
But is there some other option out there?
"The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? The bums will always lose!"
Whadawedooooooo?
can i blogwhore here? a response to Digby here, which may also somewhat partially answer James' question as well.
Fuckin' A, man. I got a rash.
Cool, thanks.
Who the fuck still shoots a musket? You wouldn't be able to hit someone standing on the other side of the street.
This more than most things shows how fucking incoherent and cloistered the "progressive" blogosphere is.
If you want a real laugh check out the putrid Washington Monthly. It's worse than Kos.
A musket? It takes ten minutes to load one lead ball. You'd be better off with a machete, but Digby most likely wanted to avoid Hutu comparisons. What a fucking tool.
oh the pain felt by the Koswhacks and icecatpond faithful... by the heroic defenders of Her Digbyness...
lawd loves a clown, but loves best of all the clown that can laugh at himself.
which means The Lawd doesn't really like Nonny Mice who take themselves far too seriously and take Her Digbyness, Jane Hamster, or le Kossie to be idols worth defending from the comic observations of their critics.
just got thanksralphed by a Glen Beck acolyte.
"did you vote for fucking Obama?"
"no i don't vote."
"that's the same thing as voting for Obama, thanks a lot."
lol
Re: Justin
No, not when your actions help maintain the status quo.
Then inaction is the best action.
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James,
Considering that the system basically is the problem, I don't see how voting is going to fix anything. In fact, aside from providing the illusion of doing something, I'd say voting is doing nothing.
As for other options, someone of a more activist bent might tell you to figure out ways to work around the system to solve problems. Or you could just take the George Carlin approach and pull up a chair and watch the freak show.
voting makes you part of the "meta" narrative and that is what Americans most want, to see their reflection in the pancaked blowdried assholes flickering on the teevee.
Oh, hey, I ain't saying Digby's problems are my problems.
A musket? It takes ten minutes to load one lead ball. You'd be better off with a machete, but Digby most likely wanted to avoid Hutu comparisons. What a fucking tool.
It was in reference to another pwoggie saying that if you think the system is broken, you have a blueprint from 1770 to work with. (Or you could STFU.)
Oxtrot: just wtf are you blathering on about? We Nonny Mice (remind me again how canny an observer of wit you are) are NOT defending Digby.
RIF, dude, it really is.
Re: Nony
My 'ZING!' was 4 letters and a character of all caps sarcasm. I figured the false choice offered at Digs was self evident here.
Oxtrot: just wtf are you blathering on about?
Oh sorry. Didn't realize you were unfamiliar with the language I was using. You'll excuse me for writing in the American English vernacular, then... I hope. Please tell me what language you prefer.
IOZ on the other hand still think it's funny to ask the kid on the register if they serve ghee.
well, hell - that is funny!
Oxtrot:
You are so perceptive. You are too fucking deep for the likes of me. Too damned witty as well.
And when you accuse the comments section here of being filled with defenses of Digby you show just how attuned you are to "the American English vernacular,"
You nailed it on the head. Most of us are taking up the case of Digby. Thank you for having the guts to take us to task for that.
Arthur Digby Sellers? Not exactly a lightweight.
Does he still write?
Regrettably, it's true, standards have fallen in adult entertainment. It's video, Dude. Now that we're competing with amateurs, we can't afford to invest that little extra in story, production value, feeling.
I once dabbled in pacifism myself. Not in Nam, of course.
Seriously, Chuckie Fucktwat, see if you can follow this: pointing out that Smithee is a fucking moron lacking even the self-awareness to realize what a joke he is IS NOT EQUAL TO being a fan of Digby's. That's really all there is to it.
And anon, you better quit teasing him about being a "sniper of bullshitters." He will DESTROY YOUR WORLD on Xbox Live!
Now Digby's saying that before you get all up in her grill, you better check with her homeboy Noam Chomsky first.
No, really. She really cited him as part of her defense for telling people to STFU about those corrupt Democrats.
shorter Digby:
My (Democratic Party) is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, a communist, but he’s not a porn star.
Now Digby's saying that before you get all up in her grill, you better check with her homeboy Noam Chomsky first.
No, really. She really cited him as part of her defense for telling people to STFU about those corrupt Democrats.
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Holy Crap! The name that American liberals would dare not utter is now suddenly fashionable. Two Chomsky references by Digby in one day.. when I've never, ever seen her ever mention his name even once in all the time she's been blogging. Strange times indeed...
Give it a rest, Davey-Wavey. You're boring poor IOZ.
I'm so cutesy-wutesy! I'm like Ned Flanders with antisocial personality disorder! Yes indeedily-weedily!
By the way! WAR and GREED! VERY BAD THINGS! ARRGGHH!
Here's some funny: some of the commenters on the Chomsky-quoting posts are already complaining that he's "useless" because he has no prescriptions for making positive change.
Noam himself has frequently remarked how odd it is that everywhere else in the world, people tell him what they're doing, maybe asking for any advice to improve on it. Here, though, he said, it's always some form of "Tell us what to do!"
By "prescriptions for making positive change" they mean voting Democrat, right?
Cause everything's always got to flow from that.
Don't be cynical, Rowan. Sometimes one may vote for a different Democrat in a primary, as strategic considerations may allow.
You're right. And that definitely makes me the cynical one in this situation. Not them.
Sometimes one may vote for a different Democrat in a primary, as strategic considerations may allow.
There's one dipshit pwoggie cartoonist, August Pollak, who is so deep into Nader Derangement Syndrome, he's still pissed at himself for voting for Bob Bradley in the 2000 primaries.
"But that all said, I would have traded all this for the last eight years to be different. It's amazing looking back at how we scoffed at Al Gore and thought he was insufficient to take control of the country. I voted for Bill Bradley in the 2000 primary. Me. I voted for Bill Bradley. But yeah, looking back, none of us really knew any better, did we?"
That's right. He won't even allow that one is allowed to vote for the candidate they actually want in the fucking primary.
Ahem. I suppose it's possible a vote for Bob Bradley, the coach of the US men's national soccer team, might be a wasted vote. I meant to say Bill.
Fugg Kew is a master archer of flaming arrows aimed at straw men. Baiting, we might call it.
I get it! Master...baiting! Giggle giggle tee hee!
That must be that superior wit you were talking about!
Mr Q, I think you mean what you were talking about, but ascribing to me.
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