Is the Deepwater spill "Obama's Katrina"? I say it is his Chicago fire. I say it is his St. Patrick's Day Flood. His Pompei. His Lisbon quake. His Götterdämmerung. Look, I know that George W. Bush failed by not personally parachuting into New Orleans to run the sump pump, but you know, the problem was simply that earthen levees, however well maintained and properly designed, cannot ultimately protect a hugely inappropriate city from its fateful geography in the face of one of nature's most powerful and destructive forces. As for the oil spill, frankly, I think Obama was probably smart to risk appearing timorous by not airlifting himself into the middle. It isn't like he could be heroically redeemed by the inevitable failure of human technology in the face of the disaster. He would've just looked like an asshole, and an ineffectual one at that. Now he can "direct the clean-up" at arm's length and head-fake some more progressive idiots by harmlessly haranguing BP about corporate responsibility or some shit. A few conservative types have taken the occasion to bitch, but for the most part, they pull their punches for fear of sounding like faggot environmentalists. Progressives, meanwhile, will just come up with a way to blame Nader.
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Fucking Nader. I knew it.
he could have nuked the fucking thing so it collapsed on itself. on day one. stopped the flow right then. then told BP to go fuck itself when they complained about the loss. hindsight is 20/20 though, no one could have predicted, etc.
Don't be too crabby environmentalists, at least it's organic oil.
daddy, when are you gonna plug that hole?
Personally, I think the dinosaurs are to blame.
Since the 70s, no one knows how to plug my hole. I blame Bush!
Why doesn't Guv. Bobby let the great state of louisiana deal with the problem instead of looking for a federal handout.
I dunno.
cannot ultimately protect a hugely inappropriate city from its fateful geography in the face of one of nature's most powerful and destructive forces.
And yet we never hear this talk about any cities on the San Andreas.
Well, considering the fact the levees in question were not properly maintained, and that the storm that made it to NO couldn't honestly be considered one of nature's most powerful and destructive forces, the problem - as it were - has yet to become common knowledge, and will likely remain a misconception.
i don't think conservatards are fudging their criticisms of BP because of environmental issues. rather, it's property rights they are worried about. as obama repeatedly points out, bp "owns" the well. you & i just own the effects of the spill. have to be careful what you say, or people might wonder how this ownership thing came about it.
what davidly said.
the failure of the levees in new orleans is not proof that levees are useless. such a position kind of baffles me.
and that the storm that made it to NO couldn't honestly be considered one of nature's most powerful and destructive forces
Why? Because it declined to a Category 3 by landfall? Brother, you ever been in a fucking hurricane? You think that because it had lower top sustained winds, it was just, like, what, a bad thunderstorm?
Also, Professor, I seem to recall it was in vogue for many years to talk about The Big One and CA sliding into the ocean, etc.
Also, Venice sinking.
"As for the oil spill, frankly, I think Obama was probably smart to risk appearing timorous by not airlifting himself into the middle."
TITCR.
obama pwns the GOP and media stooges on a daily basis.
i know, i know - he's an authoritarian manipulative neoliberal who carried the 'pwogs' by extending Bush policies, etc., etc.
but i don't care b/c: 1) that case is overstated; 2) to the extent it's not, my powers of rationalization are strong; and most importantly, 3) i can't imagine not rooting for the guy, and race, admittedly, has a lot to do with this. obama brings me teh lulz daily by pwning the uber-crackers who run the GOP and the media. dude does represent. i don't care how sycophantic it sounds, that mf'ers a jedi knight.
I for one would have liked to witness Obummer five thousand feet below sea level plugging that hole. Also, it's American's Chernobyl, and nothing less.
"Also, Professor, I seem to recall it was in vogue for many years to talk about The Big One and CA sliding into the ocean, etc."
Call me Snake.
Why? Because it declined to a Category 3 by landfall? Brother, you ever been in a fucking hurricane? You think that because it had lower top sustained winds, it was just, like, what, a bad thunderstorm?
More like because what hit NO was category 1 (weak 2 at worst).
I have been in a typhoon. The rain felt like pebbles, and I don't mean the hot Flinstone chick. The wind uprooted trees and flattened houses.
New Orleans didn't see what Mississippi did. The latter "dodged a bullet", according to reports, only to have the flood walls breached. That's how it went down. The storm didn't damage shit.
Now if you wanna call the flood one of nature's most powerful and destructive forces, then go ahead. But the Dutch could tell you how to properly maintain and design levees.
Yikes. I meant "the latter" as in chronologically rained upon, not the common literary device. Those I should try to avoid.
The storm was the proximate cause of the flood. You know, a "storm surge." What's in a name, yo.
True dat about the Dutch, though. Fuckers can build a sea wall, that's for sure.
Does anyone here find Le Show with Harry Shearer the least-sucky show on National Puppet Radio? It's kind-of funny sometimes, and Shearer (a NO rez) made a lot of fucking hay about how Katrina was a human, not natural, disaster.
Damn southerners...does anybody else feel shadenfreude about the Gulf?
Do they have hurricanes over in Dutch?
The man-made social disaster that was Katrina no more started and stopped at "force of nature" than the more recent Haitian disaster did.
@nony 7:53
Not hurricanes, but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953
Netherlands: 20% of the land is below sea level, 50% of the of it is less than 1 meter above sea level. Taking a conservative approach to living in tune with the environment means abandoning 50%+ of the country.
United States: don't know but I'm guessing that not living in a way that defies the normal rhythms of nature wouldn't mean turning 1/2 the country into an underwater park. This website offers a rough idea (http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/).
The insanity is not limited to NOLA. Plenty of "common-sense", "salt-of-earth" types live on Midwestern flood plains as if major rivers flooding and changing course was not normal, expected, and what made the land so fertile in the first place.
Here in CA we're not patient enough to wait for a good earthquake. Rich Angelenos not only think it is rational but highly desirable to build multi-million dollar houses on the cliffs above Malibu where the environment depends on occasional wild fires and, lacking vegetation, heavy winter rains can send said real estate downhill a couple hundred yards.
All these "disasters" are man-made. Various gov't entities fuck with nature (Army Corp of Engineers being a major enabler), make promises they can't keep, and give people a false sense of security so they can pretend nothing bad will happen when it so obviously will.
A well-built, well-maintained levee designed to withstand a Class X hurricane just means that when a Class X + 1 hurricane rolls in (and it will) the disaster will be even more spectacular than the last one.
now IOZ is a structural engineer, a physicist specializing in fluids, and a meteorologist. What a fucking assclown. You should stick to politics as light entertainment with the occasional popcorn recipe and Ben Rothlisberger post. You're out of your element as usual.
Hey, his latest the comment was the closest i've ever seen to him admitting error. That's good for something!
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