It's not clear whether Pullman himself actually believes in Dust or if it's just an effective plot device, but there's no doubt that His Dark Materials has the same effect on certain susceptible readers (say, me) as Avatar does on some moviegoers. You finish the Pullman trilogy electrified and desolate, heartbroken that the world can't be as he depicts it. Though Pullman is most often compared to C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkein, the author he may resemble most is Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. This is not a literary comparison—Hubbard was a pulp hack, while Pullman has written the most thrilling and imaginative novels in a generation—but we may wake up one day and find that Pullmanism has become a religion, that Dust has been made flesh.This is extremely bizarre. Now, I am not a fan of Pullman. Indeed, I think that the comparison to L. Ron Hubbard is apt not because Pullman is an evangelist for a new, crackpot theosophy, but because Pullman is a hack. His books are lousy. His prose heavy-handed. His adolescents intolerable. His "world-building" clumsy. I read those Dark Materials books at the urging of a friend. By the time I was at the rollerderby elephants (I am not making that up) on page umpteenhundred, I was ready for a quaaludes and Old Granddad cocktail.
-David Plotz
But, I mean, it is clear that Pullman does not, literally, Joe Biden, believe in Dust anymore than C.S. Lewis believes in talking lions, Tolkein believes in orcs, Herbert believes in giant sandworms, or Asimov believes that Robin Williams was the right casting choice for the cinematic adaptation of Bicentennial Man. The fact that Pullman's books are insufferably didactic does not mean that he believes their fantastical elements to be metaphysically true. Pace my midichlorian count, it would be more accurate to say that George Lucas believes in the Force than to say that Pullman believes in Dust.
David Plotz himself wrote a rather insufferable little tome that I had the displeasure to read, The Good Book: The Bizarre, Hilarious, Disturbing, Marvelous, and Inspiring Things I Learned When I Read Every Single Word of the Bible, which is a sort of idiot's guide to the so-called Old Testament, in which our author stumbles googley-moogley-eyed through the savage histories of the ancient Hebrews, exclaiming at every opportunity that he never learned about all-ah-dem rapes-n-murders in Hebrew school, nosiree. Affecting the unsubtle guise of a complete moron and cryptoilliterate in order to éclater la bourgoisie is hardly a dignified position from which to subsequently sneer at atheists for their "emphatic and complicated religious beliefs."
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Give Plotz some credit. I found this phrase masterfully witty:
"That said, The Good Man Jesus is often a drag. Weighed down with Christ's leaden speeches, it is hectoring and obvious where His Dark Materials was subtle and joyful."
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... oh, Plotz wasn't ribbing us? Hm.
More on books and plays, please.
I used to say that I loved His Dark Materials, because I did, until I got into the third book.
Now I say I like Northern Lights/Golden Compass and leave it at that.
Glad you included Herbert, who is perhaps the signature literary genius of that now passing last age.
Herbert set out to write an allegory which was at once obvious, complex and literate, and his world building, characterization, back story development and plotting were *not* put on hold so that he could make his point - hamfisted a la Heinlein - in subtle strokes of diminishing variation.
Herbert did the opposite, or as close to it as possible, and developed his fable into genuine literature.
Having read HDM, I can agree for the most part with your assessment. Pullman is incurious about the consequences of his own characterizations, and pushes his leads along a pace and a plot which ignores the quirks embedded in those characters.
And he is as preachy as Methodist on a rainy spring Sunday...
Read this one Le Guin essay last year where she lays into this series - her main beef, if I recall, was that Pullman hobbled his plot with inconsistent portrayal/properties of the demons. Life's short, and there are all those non-Dune Herberts I still haven't read.
"I used to say that I loved His Dark Materials, because I did, until I got into the third book."
word up, son. i was one enthralled 17 year old until book 3.
"More on books and plays, please."
i've had my copy of "2666" on the shelf for a couple months... it's like 1200 pages!!1... I CAN DO IT.
Dusty, if you could find that essay, I'd be so pleased. I've been looking for it and can't find it. Le Guin's critiques are usually golden.
"Pullman is a hack. His books are lousy."
Hey, at least they're better than Left Behind.
Funny. I read the Dark Materials Trilogy quite a few years ago and liked them well enough. When they announced the movie I thought maybe I would re-read them and found them insufferable on a second go....
That's a rare thing.
Best scifi/fantasy novel of the past decade: Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke
C, it's collected in Cheek by Jowl in the "fables and psychic fragments" section of the title essay.
You know, I was just looking at that collection. Thank you!!
I don't get the people who say they gave up in book three. How the hell did you people make it through book two, which introduces us to Stern Action-Hero Toddler-Boy and expects us to take him seriously, which reveals to us that a major character is attempting to kill God through an offhand aside delivered by his butler, and which expects the reader to trust that a pair of serial child-murderers are now motivated solely by delayed-action parental love?
As for David Plotz, the man is a professional imbecile.
Easy. Lee Scoresby, the hope that there'd be more witches in it, residual affection for all the characters from the first book, the intrigue between Boreal and Coulter, even some of the shit in our own world.
All the bullshit Pagemaster/Battlestar 1980 "they're in our world now!" shtick was awful, but when it's cut with so much of the, well, interesting world that he made around Oxbridge and that parallel universe, it was fairly easy to plow through. By the third, though, my endurance gave up and now that I'm writing my own fiction (whether or not it'll ever amount to anything) and reading everything from Orwell to Gene Wolfe to, yes, the great divider Heinlein, I haven't felt any need to return to the Treesap Telescope, even if Lyra Belacqua is one of my favorite characters.
Oh, and you know what helped my love die was that piece of shit movie with Gandalf the Wonderbear and the best parts cut out. Wow, it's like they put the story through Intercision to make that monstrosity.
read the Pullman trilogy with my daughter. and, yeah, what stras says about book 2.
on the recommendation of my son, i just finished reading _The Hunger Games_ by Suzanne Collins. i found it to be rather unputdownable. if you're into the whole young adult sci-fi/adventure thing. apparently it is the first of a series also. but it goes well with IOZ's post-collapse hunter-gatherer aesthetic. although the political landscape is far from any post-coercion ideal, the hints of rebellion are of the driving slow in the fast lane variety. as charming as it is, i expect the next two books in the series may well crash the airplane into the mountain.
@Cuneyt: "... to Gene Wolfe to ..."
You're doing the right thing.
Well, sure, it's no Illuminatus Trilogy - but did you like it?
I hope Plotz isn't a nom de plume.
Oh, I know it, Professor. Wolfe's writing is mindblowing.
Best SF book I've read recently was the post-apocalyptic Riddley Walker, for the AV Club's book group. It wasn't just a good book, but its language actually helped to alter how I thought about it, and art in general. Amazing. The comparison that came up the most in the discussion was Wolfe's Book of the New Sun.
I find Dune maddening. I'll just leave it at that.
Gotta disagree. I've read the first two books of that series about the torturer; the thing falls apart half-way through the first book, at which point I concluded that Gene Wolfe is a hack. He has no sense of pace or suspense and no clue that a plot consists of more than the random collision of Very Significant Symbols. His characters, though interesting at first, degenerate to ciphers, numbers in a matrix. Other than the occasional felicity of a simile or an image, the books were simply boring: more an exercise in cryptography than a story. You'd be better off doing a crossword.
Based on those two books, Wolfe's also the biggest misogynist this side of Tolkien.
Slate is a toilet.
I fancy myself a fairly tolerant reader - but I have to agree with George, Wolfe writes impenetrable prose.
Not the way Sherri Tepper starts off her novels, with deliberate confusion and a with-holding of data, to limit the reader to the perspective of her participating characters.
Wolfe writes 50 word long list sentences, and then strings those sentences together as lists of lists.
So I've picked up Book of the New Sun at the library at least twice before putting it back. So far, it seems that the vote is 2 to 1 in favor of me actually checking it out sometime.
Anybody else have any thoughts on it?
If it helps, I like Dune well enough, though I did the whole "plow through without absorbing anything" for certain sections.
Ken,
If you want a novel which provokes thought, tells a superior story with fully developed, credible characters, and deftly so, doesn't ever insult its readers and has almost no "what what?!" moments:
River of Gods, by Ian McDonald.
Well, as long as you don't knock Consider Phlebas...
I read Dune when it was first published, bitchez, I even have a copy of an issue of Analog it was serialized in, and it was a snooze. I reread it after Lynch's movie was released, and my opinion didn't change much. I read the rest of the series through Chapterhouse, and it confirmed my sense that the most popular and esteemed sf writers among fanboys are pretty bad.
I read Wolfe's Book of the New Sun, and I agree, it wasn't much. Again it was a book for fanboys, not human beings. But in the last volume there's an amazing tour de force where the narrator encounters a refugee from a Maoist-like society where everyone speaks in Mao-like slogans, and as he tells his story, another character translates. It was worth slogging through the earlier parts of the series to get to that part.
I liked the first two volumes of His Dark Materials a lot the first time I read them, and really only felt that Pullman lost it when he had to end the final book. But endings are troublesome for many writers. A few years later I reread the trilogy and liked it less, but still more than most of youse seem to. I think it is a major fail to have "God" be a finite human being, which makes everything so much simpler, and leaves room for some kind of transcendent Truth that the fake God was only pretending to be. It seems to me that Christians should like that, given their fussing about false gods and false Christs. It doesn't really touch their cult, or any other.
If you want good philosophical fiction, read Rebecca Goldstein's first novel, The Mind-body Problem. But Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels go deeper than Pullman.
I read The Book of the New Sun as an uncritical teenager, and liked it okay. Not enough to go back and reread, but not so little that I didn't plan on rereading it someday.
Phlebas is my favorite Culture book (still haven't read Excession or Look to Windward). Aside from the whole genetic determinism thing (which is admittedly pretty fucking central), Dune is good fun. Yinz're such haters, but that's cool - now go write those novels!
Montag,
Read "The Hunger Games" on girlfriend's recommendation, and my reaction was the same. I read through the night and finished in one sitting. The YA tag is part of the appeal: it is an easy, quick read, and manages not to insult the intelligence of anyone who isn't a YA. The sequel "Catching Fire" is out now, and I recommend stealing it. All I will say is that the woman knows how to pace things, and the hints you speak of begin to pay off.
So what do you people think of Infinite Jest?
Could not make it through Gene Wolfe. Bored me to tears. Utterly.
regarding another famous novel which I should be enamored with to be troo, man: even though I have been reading sci fi and fatasy for thirty five years and should be a "fanboy" I am not LITERARY enough to make it through the Gormeghast novels. Even if I can sorta appreciate the tiny set pieces and descriptions used by Melvyn Peak...Gag me, that book is boring and trivial.
He badly, badly, BADLY needed an editor and the triology could have been finished in two or even one volume, but John C. Wright's The Golden Age trilogy blows away The Culture, in my opinion at least as far as fantastic, ornate, world view and speculation on how a post-human, post-scarcity society could work. Plus, the bad guys lived in a Black Hole! How cool is that? And...the society is basically "anarchistic" in theory (although not necessarily in effect). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Age_(novel_series) The guy is a crank worthy of Ioz...arch conservative "libertarian" who claims to beleive that the Virgin Mary literally appeared to him personally. LOL
I do like The Culture novels. Excession was intriguing but frustrating.
I contend that Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun is better than David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest than the things that Infinite Jest is most often praised for: unreliable narrator, Earth at an indeterminate future, zero exposition, archaic language to jar the consciousness, etc.
That being said, if you find DFW insufferable, you won't like Gene Wolfe either.
@Promiscuous: I understand not liking New Sun, but I don't get the "fanboys" comment. Wolfe's writing seems designed to repel fanboys: it's dense, anti-heroic and challenging. It's fantasy for people who can't stand what's marketed as fantasy.
If we're cottoning to sci-fi heresies though, I'll own up: I do not get the fuss about Michael Moorcock.
Shezus fucking Keeryst, the Wright sounds rad.
Best fantasy: R. Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series. Excellent.
No love for Jack Vance? For shame.
Jessica Amanda Salmonson's "Tomoe Gozen" trilogy, long forgotten, is pretty sharp too, especially the second volume.
I'm trying to figure out whether M. John Harrison is really good, bad, or just impenetrable. "Light" was ideal airplane reading until it fell apart in the final chapters. The Viriconium stories are much more challenging but I seem to dislike them a lot--might just be that I can't muster the concentration any more.
The one sacred cow in the Escapism Pasture I really can't get into is Robert Howard: formulaic Mary-Sue-ism of the most tedious kind. I mean, yes, he invented the formula, but that doesn't make reading it more pleasurable.
I can see how a certain kind of literary hipster might go ga-ga over Wolfe. I suppose I'm a snob, when it comes down to it, and I think Wolfe is the best antidote to stuff like R. A. Salvatore. But as far as fanboys, I agree with the Professor. The 'splosions type of scifi lowbrow doesn't even know who Wolfe is. Anne "buttsex makes you gay" McCaffrey has more fanboys than Gene Wolfe.
And Robert Howard is a fundamental. Anyone doing what he did now would be an absurd, racist buffoon, but as far as basic adventure writing, I can think of few more accessible writers. Not to mention that Conan really is a terrific character, Mary Sue or not. When you compare Howard to other seminal, genre-defining authors, say Fleming and the spy novel, Howard comes out ahead rather frequently, warts and all.
And yes, the story where he is basically motivated at start by the desire to keep a white woman out of the hands of black savages, while a good story, is also appalling for its racism. So's H. P. Lovecraft, Jack London...
I guess, in a post about writers, I shouldn't have spoken about metaphorically getting into a cow
I agree that Howard basically defined the next 80 years of "action hero" stories. I just don't enjoy watching him at work, the way I might enjoy (to pick a comparable figure) Stan Lee doing his thing.
Actually, having read a lot of the original Conan stories lately, I really ought to revisit Sam Delany's "Return to Neveryon" series, which is a deconstuction of race, sexuality, and class in Sword & Sorcery fiction (by way of Sword & Sorcery fiction).
You should read the one where Tarzan fights commies. And Alan Moore's always good for this, too, like when he presents Bulldog Drummond as the racist he very much was.
Mike,
Bakker is good, but I don't think he or anyone can top Erikson.
Book of the New Sun was the first thing I had ever read by Wolfe, and I found it to be worthwhile. Enough so that I read it several more times, and then moved on to the rest of his work. Like any writer, he has his flaws, but I highly recommend BotNS to anyone interested in well-written scifi. I understand not liking it, although I agree with Prof. Coldheart & Cuneyt in finding the fanboy criticism misguided.
However, I also enjoyed the Gormenghast trilogy, so my taste may be suspect.
Anon 6:18, i'm working on getting a copy of Catching Fire as we speak.
i've got a copy of Infinite Jest on my night table 'to-read' stack. its size intimidates me. i am haunted by its presence.
"which reveals to us that a major character is attempting to kill God through an offhand aside delivered by his butler"
See, I don't think of this as necessarily a bad thing.
And being a pretentious asshole, I also found Book of the New Sun to be worthwhile overall, though frequently frustrating. <River Song> Spoilers! </River Song> An unreliable narrator who underscores how he has perfect recall when he pretty clearly doesn't. That little moment when Baldanders says, "I am his master." The cool way in which Wolfe's esoteric Catholicism comes through (e.g., "sacred sand") without being C.S. Lewisian. Didn't care for the epilogue volume or the Long Sun nearly so much, though.
"Well, as long as you don't knock Consider Phlebas..."
I thought the metaphor for organized religion on the island to be the tiresome sort of thing that David Plotz sees behind every tree, albeit better done than Garth Ennnis. On the other hand, a spaceship chase occurring inside yet another spaceship. And a much grimmer tone than most of the other Culture stuff. So, no knock. (POOF! Radley Balko appears.)
druff:
Whatever you do, don't read The Savage Detectives before getting around to 2666--the former is the most self-involved, and even just boring, thing ever. I may not be able to finish it. Still looking forward to 2666, though--seems to have more potential than Detectives' "those were the days" theme.
mds, eminently fair about the cult. That said, that was back in Banks' Wasp Factory days and Christ, the guy had a penchant for fucking grotesque imagery. What's he supposed to do, though? He's Scottish.
So I'll probably always skip that part when I read it, to be honest, because I thought it was needless. I'm not sure if it was tiresome, though. It was a well-crafted, earnest metaphor and artistically valid, even if it makes me sick to think about. The best part about its inclusion, though, is that the Culture shrugs, considering that the same as any other, so-called "well-intentioned" faith. It's like some type of position IOZ would take.
Wolfe's stuff is based on a world-view yearning for the comforting certainties of religion, similar to the better-written Hyperion books of Dan Simmons, and the IMO awful Deryni novels of Kathryn somebody. All of these share an aimless meandering through a world created as a sort of alternative Christian Middle Ages, complete with torture and bigotry and partisan warring and power jockeying, except none of them are tremendously thoughtful.
On the other hand, Banks' books are tremendously thoughtful and not aimless.
Wright is one of the wish-we-could-all-be-Catholics crowd; if Banks' tolerance and humanity irritates you, try Wright instead for some hearty, red-blooded judgmental moralizing.
Wolfe's stuff is based on a world-view yearning for the comforting certainties of religion, similar to the better-written Hyperion books of Dan Simmons, and the IMO awful Deryni novels of Kathryn somebody. All of these share an aimless meandering through a world created as a sort of alternative Christian Middle Ages, complete with torture and bigotry and partisan warring and power jockeying, except none of them are tremendously thoughtful.
On the other hand, Banks' books are tremendously thoughtful and not aimless.
Wright is one of the wish-we-could-all-be-Catholics crowd; if Banks' tolerance and humanity irritates you, try Wright instead for some hearty, red-blooded judgmental moralizing.
Well stated, dveej. And Simmons also challenges his own central ethos, using the Ousters as a counterpoint to his Diaspora Catholics.
Of all the Wolfe novels I've read, I found New Sun to be the least readable. It's possible that it was because I hadn't read a lot of his prose at that point, but it may also be due to the total lack of any likeable or particularly accessible characters. The heavy emphasis on archaic vocabulary in that one, and the usual games of emphasis and non-emphasis in the plot and character didn't add up to an easy entry point. I'd instead recommend the Long Sun books to almost anyone if you want a see-science-fiction-is-too-literary experience. (My favorite Wolfe novel, for the record, is There are Doors.)
I'll add that he's a much better author at sub-novel length, over which he'll keep a tighter plot and more consistent focus. His novellas are almost uniformly great.
Wolfe likes to pack puzzles in there, and he's conscientious about making sure the pieces, only a fraction of which are revealed, fit in. I think that's fun and satisfying for certain kinds of nerds (and yeah, I like it). But what actually happens (despite what is shown) is well-defined, and the morality is pretty structured--I've read critics complain about his lack of actual ambiguity in these departments. I can see that too.
I read Lolita recently and was struck by how much the last quarter of it, with Humbert's constant (intentionally or confusedly) misidentifying his opponent, with his attention to less-relevant detail, absurd hyperintelligent misinterpretation of non-clues, and even, maybe, the awkwardness and finality the actual confrontation, it all seemed rather Wolfe-esque. It made me want to go forward and read more Nabokov though, not go back and read more Gene Wolfe.
For whatever that's all worth. Glad it's off my chest.
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