The New York Times should be published in crayon. Here is David Brooks:
The contrast is clearest in the energy sector. In the democratic capitalist world we have oil companies, like Exxon Mobil, BP and Royal Dutch Shell, that make money for shareholders.Do I even have to say it. The world's largest company is Royal Dutch Shell. ExxonMobil, BP, Chevron, Total, and ConocoPhillips are all bigger than the largest "state" rival, China National. Oh, and here is a ranking by market cap, in which some of the state-owned companies fare a bit better, but the big "multinationals" ExxonMobil, RDS, BP, Chevron, and Total all make the top 13. WHAT THE FUCK IS DAVID BROOKS TALKING ABOUT?
In the state capitalist world there are government-run enterprises like Gazprom, Petrobras, Saudi Aramco, Petronas, Petróleos de Venezuela, China National Petroleum Corporation and the National Iranian Oil Company. These companies create wealth for the political cliques, and they, in turn, have the power of the state behind them.
With this advantage, state energy companies have been absolutely crushing the private-sector energy companies. In America, we use the phrase Big Oil to describe Exxon Mobil, BP, Royal Dutch Shell and others. But that just shows how parochial we are. In fact, none of these private companies make it on a list of the world’s top 13 energy companies.
I'm not even going to climb on my hobbyhorse to lecture about how the west practices state capitalism just as much as China or Russia. You've heard it before. The only point of this post is to say that David Brooks is a columnist at the top newspaper in the United States of America and he does not know how to make The Google!
97 comments:
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Confirmation bias baby.
yesterday you were a skilled machinist. today you're, what, the CEO of a giant oil conglomerate? a NYT columnist? is there a job title you won't claim, IOZ?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU- ...I'M NOT- ...I'm talking about the OTHER State-Capitalist Oil Company. The MILLIONARE.
Brooks is talking about what his readers will believe, and what his quoters will pass on as fact.
He's talking about what his critics will fail to understand, taking the bait on his misdirection, the erroneous comparison between "state capitalist" and "democratic capitalist."
No capitalist concern exists without a state to define its property, and to enforce the distinction with guns and prisons.
It's all state capitalist, and that's what BoBo's critics in liberal circles will miss entirely.
When they jump to defend what he attacks, he's got the jump on them.
He's not brilliant, that BoBo. But a purpose he does serve...
Walter, this is not a guy who built the railroads, here, this is a guy who peed on my--
The NYT will always employ the best conservatives that money can buy.
Oh, no. He has health problems.
Really? Saudi ARAMCO is actually by far the world's largest oil company by both production and reserves. Here's why Brooks thinks SOE's own the world's oil reserves...because they do:
http://www.petrostrategies.org/Links/Worlds_Largest_Oil_and_Gas_Companies_Sites.htm
Claiming that ARAMCO is "bigger" than RDS or ExxonMobil because it claims larger reserves (a notoriously unreliable and overstated number, btw) is like claiming that some Chinese textile mill is bigger than WalMart because it has more cotton.
What is 'state capitalist'? Is it a nice way of saying 'corporate socialism'?
No capitalist concern exists without a state to define its property, and to enforce the distinction with guns and prisons.
Heh. "Royal Dutch Shell."
Not that Brooks has any idea what he’s talking about, but the people he quotes without attribution are not complete morons. After all, they are smart enough to have the New York Times publish their shit for free instead of hiring a stenographer/book publisher.
Anonymous is pointing to the right data, though it feels like Brooks is copy and pasting from this article: http://www.economist.com/node/7270301
Largest proven reserves seems to be the metric of choice. It sucks, obviously, but so do other methods. Since you can’t use market cap for companies that aren’t publicly traded, maybe oil production would be a better alternative? According to Table 3 in this US Govt doc, BP, ExxonMobil, etc. make a decent showing, but the tops are still national oil companies.
There's an interesting point hidden behind Brooks' idiocy, tho.
It actually is the case that most of the world's oil reserves are controlled by state oil companies. The big privates do some extraction but mainly focus on refining, distribution, etc. This is a real change from the situation in the first part of the 20th century.
What's silly is assuming this change is some kind of victory for the state companies. What it looks much more like is big capitalists long-established knack for sticking to the most profitable segment of the value chain, and leaving the low-margin, high-risk segment to smaller businesses and the state.
What it looks much more like is big capitalists long-established knack for sticking to the most profitable segment of the value chain, and leaving the low-margin, high-risk segment to smaller businesses and the state.
LP swoops in for the win...
Yeah man. BP isn't really a hydrocarbon extraction company, more like a bank that deals in oil futures.
That's true, but it is a salient, oft missed point about post industrial capitalism - the developmental work is paid for by the public sector & profited on by the private sector that brings it to market.
Also quite likely explains why the private sector co's dominate the market cap while having fewer proven reserves than the nationals.
He's saying geography is socialism, which it is, by definition, since it is an item that dares to be other than what the overclass might prefer, now that the USA is no longer the world's largest petroleum producer.
What the fuck are you talking about? The facts are not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT...
Brooks: "These companies create wealth for the political cliques,..."
As opposed to shareholders, who have (sniffle) no political power whatsoever (wipes tear from eye), which is why BP shareholders will take it up the *ss for cleaning up their mess.
Not.
The best description of Brooks was in a critique of his famous 'bob
(http://www.phillymag.com/articles/booboos_in_paradise/):
1) The guy makes a red state-blue state comparison by looking at a blue county in a blue state and a red county in another blue state. An odd way to compare things. He must think that 'comparing apples and oranges' was advice, not a warning. And he's supposed to be a sociologist.
2) The guy leans on several anecdote (about prices at resaurants, markets for various goods and services), which are wrong. Again, odd behavior for a sociologist.
Nothing I've seen or heard of Brooks after that contradicted the impression that the only reason he's not lying is that simple BS will serve.
"These companies create wealth for the political cliques, and they, in turn, have the power of the state behind them. "
As opposed to Exxon-Mobil or BP, which do nothing for political cliques and thus have no state power behind them.
BP is biggest by market capitalization in dollars. I think you would, on normal days, say that market cap is no way to measure size, as it's the product of two imaginary numbers: share count by stock price. But even so, CNPC dwarfs BP's market cap. Get thee to a Bloomberg terminal!
Also, CNPC is one of the world's biggest company by number of employees. Wikipedia puts head count at 1.6 million, but friends who work at the company's Americas HQ in Caracas say it's actually 3 million. I don't think Exxon or Chevron have ever surpassed 80,000 employees while your BP has fewer than 100,000.
In oil production, which I consider to be the best apples-apples comparison, severl state companies are bigger than BP or Exxon.
Brooks still deserves scorn -- I don't know where he finds his list, but it sounds like bullshit. He should use
http://www.energyintel.com/documentdetail.asp?document_id=648479
but when you flail scorn you should do so with care not to have your comments reflect back on yourself. (Can't even use the Google, etc)
Also the idea that PDVSA enriches political elites more than Exxon -- Brooks is pretty funny there, no? Exactly where is this mysterious frontier between "shareholders" and "political elites" of which he speaks? PDVSA spends all of its profits on food programs, giving away efficient light bulbs, and fixing Venezuela's highways. Yes the contracting is perfectly corrupt, and nothing works, but the idea that it's sharing less than Exxon is very very funny.
China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) is the most valuable company in the world by market cap. Their IPO was over 1 trillion $. They have over 1.5 million employees. Two other China oil companies are almost as big
"With this advantage, state energy companies have been absolutely crushing the private-sector energy companies."
Oh my. Their heartrending squeals of distress keep me awake at night....where is the pride of being fast and nimble in the jungle that is the God of the Free Market? Is the Holy Grail of Equilibrium gone missing?
Obviously it is time to correct this imbalance and give these poor critters more state sanctioned goodies.
All this sturm and drang aside, Exxon's 10% gross margins does seem impressive.
In oil production, which I consider to be the best apples-apples comparison, severl state companies are bigger than BP or Exxon.
Lol. Yeah, well, I say that some cattle ranch in Australia is bigger than Monsanto because it owns more acreage.
Next Brooks column:
Rand Paul, libertarian anarchist candidate for U.S. Senate named after Ayn Rand, blah, blah, blah...
"PDVSA spends all of its profits on food programs, giving away efficient light bulbs, and fixing Venezuela's highways."
No gladiator fights? So disappointing...
"Lol. Yeah, well, I say that some cattle ranch in Australia is bigger than Monsanto because it owns more acreage."
HAHAHH. Cuz the Australian outback is such lush, verdant farmland! Speaking of apples to oranges as advice...
Mark: Gladiator fights promised for 2016, along with a 60% increas in oil output. Hint: don't hold yer breath.
IOZ: Your metaphor makes no sense at all. How do YOU measure "biggest oil companies"? I mean, Brooks is wrong, and in this case, so are you. Rather than admit it, you make a false analogy? WTF? If you have a better metric than oil output, name it: BP and Exxon are not the biggest on oil refining capacity, number of employees, amount of pollution, or any of the useful metrics of "size" in oil companies. They are just gigantic, not ginormous.
Your metaphor makes no sense at all. How do YOU measure "biggest oil companies"?
By revenue and/or profit. You know. The way you measure the size of companies. This information, by the way, is contained in the top post.
setty would judge "best athlete" by pointing at the number of times he stood at the plate, looking at pitches -- or swinging at them, or hitting them.
"at bats", in other words.
never mind the athleticism being assessed. setty has statistics to provide!
The contrast is clearest in the energy sector. In the democratic capitalist world we have oil companies, like Exxon Mobil, BP and Royal Dutch Shell, camiseta de futbol replicas that make money for shareholders.
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