Monday, July 26, 2010

Washers

And clearly, you have to listen to what they don't say. They don't say, Oh, this information is wrong. It's fraudulent. It's incorrect. It's inaccurate. In fact, in a perverse and unintentional way, they testify to its validity when they say, Oh, the release of this information is going to put lives at risk. Like the professor says, this reflects the understanding that if people knew what was really going on, they'd turn against it. But I think it goes deeper still. I think it's an error to believe that the Administration and its Pentagon do make or can make some clear distinction between the publicly acknowledged war and the secret reality of it. One of the first lessons you learn in any large agency or organization that values the partitioning, compartmentalization, and controlled dissemination of information is that the organization will quickly come to believe its own obfuscatory bullshit. In the effort to concoct a believable story and to assemble the evidence in such a way as to gird its believability, they come to believe their own press releases. The incantatory repetition--this is not the whole picture, this is not the whole picture, this is not the whole picture--of the limits of leaked documents represents a legitimate moment of cognitive dissonance. The Administration is saying: this is not reality as we wish it to be, therefore it is not reality. Really it's just indicative, once more, of how thoroughly, banally ordinary Obama is, how similar to all his predecessors, the latter Bush most of all. Bush preferred to couch his unreality in a high moral dander, while Obama prefers a sort of managerial proceduralism that he, like many second-rate intellects, mistakes for deliberation and deliberateness, but at root, he is equally a fantasist.

36 comments:

Cüneyt said...

You grind that "he's not so smart as all you libs think" axe with the refrain of "second-rate intellect," but yeah, you're generally correct. Just wanted you to know; it's starting to look worn.

davidly said...

Maybe it's McLuhan or Spiro C. Theerist in me, but I can't shake the inkling that when such information comes by way of a leak, there is something else at work. At any rate, I think it does more to rally the war effort that the if-people-only-knewers would like to believe.

Nevertheless, I hafta disagree with Cüneyt; repeatedly pointing out the pedestrian nature of The Rama is crucial to The Enlightenment.

Professor Coldheart said...

Really it's just indicative, once more, of how thoroughly, banally ordinary Obama is, how similar to all his predecessors ...

Banally ordinary LIKE A FOX!

the talking dog said...

"All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." -- I.F. Stone

Charles F. Oxtrot said...

I dunno, IOZ. I think he's got that 12-dimensional chess strategy in his vest pocket. He's sandbagging those Evil Rethuglicans, giving them what they want... just wait until 2011, man. The REAL Obama will leap out of the concessionist's suit, and put on his Chairman Mao uniform, and deliver the glorious revolution!

Penny Pwoggie told me so!

Mr.Fundamental said...

everyday the news is the same

AlanSmithee said...

Ah, the bananerty of evil.

Howard W. Campbell, Jr. said...

When you're dead, you're dead.

Inkberrow said...

It's neither Master Plan nor catch as catch can. Like most Legacy-Building statesmen, at the end of the day he finds perpetual crisis the easiest medium to work in.

LA Confidential Pantload said...

Seriously OT, monsieur, but WTF is going on in the Iron City?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10207/1075423-56.stm

MichaelRyerson said...

speaking stictly as your average liberal/proggie and laboring under the everyday burden of a second-rate intellect myself, let me say I find it unsettling, in the extreme, to find your readers beginning to criticize any of your ritualized boiler-plate. just sayin'

Anonymous said...

surely the point, MR, surely

MichaelRyerson said...

oh, how very droll. but, of course, droll saves one from the tedious obligation to actually say something. carry on.

MichaelRyerson said...

worth saying twice.

Mike said...

I am pretty much with Davidly on all points. I was really disappointed when reading about all the disclosures, I didn't see much that Americans can't be made oblivious to in a few days and I am somewhat disquieted by some of the shit I am seeing in the news with this like this quote from Assenge, cherry-picked by CNN:

"This material does not leave anyone smelling like roses, especially the Taliban," he said, also implying that some U.S. troops had behaved improperly."

and this from the Guardian:

"a devastating portrait of the failing war in Afghanistan, revealing how coalition forces have killed hundreds of civilians in unreported incidents, Taliban attacks have soared and Nato commanders fear neighbouring Pakistan and Iran are fueling the insurgency."

I see a pattern here of facts that ostensibly damn the US on one hand -yeah, we kill civilians. This is new? - mixed with more that fortify the extension of the war into Pakistan and Iran.

I don't understand why members of the left are so uncritically on board with this. I mean, I don't think Assenge is acting in bad faith - though his emphasis on the Taliban in the CNN quote seems somewhat suspect - but I think the motive of whoever leaked is subject to debate. It is not clear to me that whoever it is wants a contraction of the military effort. We are dealing with a very sophisticated and entrenched secret goverment and it could just be that they are learning how to do propaganda in the age of the web with all its transparency. Could there be anything more effective than war-mongering that at a distance looks oppositional?

I also question Assenge's choices for who to leak this stuff to. I mean, why the New York Times? It can only serve to burnish their reputation as something other than stenographers for the administration. He should be working at discrediting them. Same for the Guardian, which serves a very similar function as the Times in the UK. Surely there are some high-profile outfits that would have insured distribution without giving hacks a leg up. What about McClatchey or the Washington Post which at least occasionally does serviceable work.

Also, I really don't like the lone man against imperialism thing that Assenge seems to be cultivating. I mean, I don't like cults of individuals on general principal, even individuals I generally respect. From a practical standpoint, it leaves Wikileaks as an enterprise vulnerable if one guy is making all the decisions and doing the technical heavy lifting.

As to IOZ drawing attention one more time to Obama's intellectual shortcomings: so long as even his most vehement critics keep with the 'most intelligent president in my lifetime' preamble, it won't get old for me. IOZ, like all bloggers, repeats himself frequently (though always in novel, entertaining ways) and I can't understand why 'Obama is a lightweight intellect' should be particularly bothersome since the idea that he is is some bullshit spread very thickly over all discourse about him. It almost strikes me as racist in the end, like white folks who tell educated black folks how 'articulate' they are.

Where is the evidence of Obama's big brain? He just seems like one more indoctrinated sociopath to me. I don't really think brilliance and conformist, delusional doctrine which requires that you believe very stupid and untrue things can really coexist or if they can, I don't think brilliance matters. Brilliant conformists can matter in something like engineering, I guess. In statesmanship, not so much.

MIke said...

Also, I really don't like the lone man against imperialism thing that Assenge seems to be cultivating. I mean, I don't like cults of individuals on general principal, even individuals I generally respect. From a practical standpoint, it leaves Wikileaks as an enterprise vulnerable if one guy is making all the decisions and doing the technical heavy lifting.

As to IOZ drawing attention one more time to Obama's intellectual shortcomings: so long as even his most vehement critics keep with the 'most intelligent president in my lifetime' preamble, it won't get old for me. IOZ, like all bloggers, repeats himself frequently (though always in novel, entertaining ways) and I can't understand why 'Obama is a lightweight intellect' should be particularly bothersome since the idea that he is is some bullshit spread very thickly over all discourse about him. It almost strikes me as racist in the end, like white folks who tell educated black folks how 'articulate' they are.

Where is the evidence of Obama's big brain? He just seems like one more indoctrinated sociopath to me. I don't really think brilliance and conformist, delusional doctrine which requires that you believe very stupid and untrue things can really coexist or if they can, I don't think brilliance matters. Brilliant conformists can matter in something like engineering, I guess. In statesmanship, not so much.

Mike said...

Really sorry for the multiple postings. I kept getting an error which suggested my comments weren't posting.

MichaelRyerson said...

don't worry about it. multiple postings are a sure sign of an exceptional intellect.

MIke said...

[setting example by (mostly) ignoring the extremely unentertaining Ryerson troll]

MichaelRyerson said...

but not entirely. a little humor makes me a troll? kinda in love with yourself, huh?

Leonard said...

On the Net, the best way to ignore someone is to forbear and post nothing. Shocking, I know, in this age of tell all. But true! Nobody actually cares what Ryerson thinks about you, but you.

Justin said...

This thread was worth it for this:
"Robbery suspect in clown pants easy catch for police"

If repeating oneself, or, rather, furthering an ongoing case by citing new evidence... look, new shit has come to light. You aren't privy to all this new shit, man! - wait, if furthering oneself, if that ain't legal either, you know, within city limits... then... we should all stop blahging.

Mike said...

"He . . . was wearing a female blonde wig, a sweater with fake breasts under it and clown pants."

I grew up in Pittsburgh, and back then, in some neighborhoods, this would have been about blending in.

IOZ said...

I deleted the dupes.

Pittsburgh has seen a rash of circus-arts related crime recently.

Anonymous said...

Oxtrot, what are you talking about, 2011? The real Obombomessiah can't reveal himself until after the '12 election. Duh.

davidly said...

Come on, Nony 1:34, that depends on what happens in 2011. This is quantum chess, after all.

Charles F. Oxtrot said...

Yep, as davidly says, Nonny 1:34, we have to wait on the developments of 2010, and especially the elections. If the Evil Rethuglicans gain ground in the Congress, then Herobama will be prompted to push his Conversion Date (TM) to 2011 instead of waiting for the 2012 elections.

But I agree that otherwise, 2012's magical election year was the target for The Immaculate Conversion from willing dupe to heroic revolutionary.

Gridlock said...

Speaking of dupes, Ladies and Gentlemen, Julian Assange!

LA Confidential Pantload said...

The clown is not the issue here, Justin. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line you DO NOT....Also, Dude, clown is not the preferred nomenclature. Harlequin-american, please.

I'm from Pittsburgh originally, too (well, Plum Borough). Don't recall fake tits and clown pants, though.

Anonymous said...

IOZ always has to throw in some "second/third-rate intellect" jab, even when the person in question is obviously highly intelligent. He's an awfully territorial fella, isn't he? Just has to remind everyone that no one is as smart as he is, goddamit.

IOZ said...

You think you're soooo smart.

Anonymous said...

Obushma

Ethan said...

Osnapma

Mike said...

I'm from Pittsburgh originally, too (well, Plum Borough). Don't recall fake tits and clown pants, though.

Well, perhaps not that exact getup. What I am talking about is a kind of very unintended, not particularly admirable, individualism that heeds neither prescribed style or anything that could be legitimately called a personal aesthetic. A preponderance of no, bad and awful taste that suggests both lack of contact with the outside world and low grade mental illness. You could call it second string John Waters. I associate it mostly with the southwest part of Pittsburgh which is completely different place from the east.

That was quite a few years ago and I get the feeling that Pittsburghers are much prettier now, these media-savvy young-uns being so visual and fit and plugged-in and all. I confess that I picture Monsieur very hot, with or without clown pants.

TGGP said...

Another pseudo-radical who thinks Obama really opposes war in Afghanistan but is just cleverly carrying out the preferred policies of the Weekly Standard.

Anonymous said...

re: mike's post upthread: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/27/barack-obama-afghan-war-logs1

hooray!