Wednesday, December 08, 2010

Yglesias vs. Yglesias: Hamster Cage Match

If you have no idea what your intelligence services are doing, and if politicians know they can engage in illegal activities by working through the cloak of secrecy that hangs over intelligence operations, then you have a recipe for law-breaking, incompetence, and corruption, not awesome intelligence success.

-Matthew Yglesias, April 26, 2009

And under Barack Obama we’re basically looking at the things the permanent national security state wants looked into. An alternative investigation might focus not on who leaked classified video of a U.S. military operations, but on the question of why that sort of video should be classified. Certainly I can see why the Army might have preferred to keep it under wraps—in the eyes of many it reflected poorly on their conduct—but it hardly contained operational military secrets. In general, we expect things undertaken by America’s public servants in America’s name on America’s dime to be matters of public record.

Matthew Yglesias, June 7, 2010

That’s not a military secret that puts people’s lives at risk. It’s not a scandalous secret that needs to be covered up, either. It’s just a small data point that gives us some greater understanding of Afghan society but that’s being kept secret out of an obsessive and ultimately counterproductive obsession with controlling the flow of information.

-Matthew Yglesias, July 26, 2010

There’s the rub. I have mixed feelings about a lot of different aspects of this, but there are two key points. One is that the leaker here (presumably Bradley Manning, but that’s not yet been proven in a court of law) has broken the law and needs to be punished.

Matthew Yglesias, December 7, 2010
As both Ethan and Montag quickly point out to odious, totalitarian, albino squirrel, Matty Woodchuck, Bradley Manning, having been neither tried nor convicted, does not "need" to be punished, and yet is being punished, indeed, tortured. Ethan wonders that even someone with the "twisted, authoritarian point of view required to be an establishment liberal" isn't more troubled by this fact, but one suspects Yglesias thinks Bradley Manning, if he were in fact the leaker, should've written his Congressman.
Dear My The People's Representative,

It has come to my attention that the United States is destroying the world in an orgy of late imperial violence.

Also, Mrs. Brown's sycamore continues to drop unmanageable amounts of bark on my mother's yard, and the local zoning board of adjustment has not responded satisfactorily.

Your attention to these matters is greatly appreciated.

Your constituent,
Pfc. Bradley Manning
I mean, what kind of moron spends the better part of a year saying that not only is the government traducing all the basic principles of a consenting, informed citizenry as the fundament of representative government, but also that it is actively working against its own internal, organizational, institutional interest by over-compartmentalizing information in a game of bureaucratic territorialism, only to conclude in the end that one figure who allegedly, allegedly, allegedly participated in cracking open ever-so-slightly this misguided, undemocratic, counterproductive, inefficient, morally dubious, ethically suspect, poorly conceived, improperly overseen, badly practiced, no good, very bad culture of supreme secrecy oughta be tossed in the clink, key thrown away, justice served. He broke the law! Bad!

This is the moral universe of a teat-sucking sycophant, but what makes it worse, what makes it all the more odious and reprehensible, is that it is plainly not a matter of actual conviction for Yglesias to argue that Manning must be tortured; he actually does not care about the matter at all. He cares only about maintaining his career-making bona fides, and he would say anything to promote a reputation as a reasonable person: the law is the law, one must work through proper channels, etc. etc. I wonder what it feels like to be hollow in the middle. I suspect it keeps a man hungry.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is why I read you, man. Every once in a while you come up with a post like this. Genius!


Pepito

Anonymous said...

Fun stuff, worth wading through all the dreck for. Good one.

Anonymous said...

Shooting fish in the barrel, again are you, Monsieur?

Capt'n Obvious

Jack Crow said...

TBF, Capt'n - the fish formed a suicide pact and advertised in the grocery chain weekly.

fish said...

You see, this is exactly why I avoid barrels.

Anonymous said...

i am a nony that enjoys almost all your posting, not just once in a while.

Anonymous said...

I also enjoy almost all your posts (I can do without the cooking and opera), but I demand more posts that discuss IQ and how genes contribute to it. And then we can laugh at the SWPLs who insist intelligence doesn't exist, everyone is exactly the same, we just need more funding, etc.

Anonymous said...

I would like to second the call for less food posts. More opera and making fun of Yglesias, please.

plashch said...

More opera for me, too.

la Rana said...

I demand that you write an opera about Yglesias eating food.

IOZ said...

I'll call it La fanciulla del Upper West Side.

Anonymous said...

I wanna fuck this post and I dearly hope this creep is lurking nearby.

So fascinating to see the usual suspects scrambling around trying to figure out what the new norms will be. Finding that sweet spot between fascism, a free press and open government. At the moment, they can all agree to screw Manning.

I was thinking about that 'hollow' feeling 'in the middle'. The optimist in me likes to think that Manning and Assange have induced bouts of insomnia-inducing self-loathing in these shit-eating pricks that no amount of establishment approval can ever quite heal.

It is quite striking how whenever Manning is mentioned, even in balanced accounts of the whole affair, no one bothers to say where he is, and what is being done to him. It seems to me that Wikileaks and Assange have been very lacking there also.

lucid said...

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mushr00m said...

The crux of your objection to the treatment of Bradley Manning is that the government hasn't gone through the proper channels in punishing him.

Dave Trowbridge said...

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats’ feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death’s other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

Ethan said...

I don't care what you write about, but you don't link to me often enough. More of that, please.

Iggles said...

Are you gonna finish those fries?

Matt Yglesias said...

I'm not really sure why you find me so outrageous.

davidly said...

And be sure not to skip the part about how Igit stores his food in his butt so it'll be warm later.

Seriously, he needs to be punished.

fish said...

I'm not really sure why you find me so outrageous.

I hope that was real.

IOZ said...

It seems to me that Wikileaks and Assange have been very lacking there also.

They shouldn't say anything about him one way or another. Their silence is in his best interest. Any statement about him, regardless of content, would be taken as evidence of his guilt.

mushr00m said...

Their twitter badge says Free Bradley.

Colin Gray said...

Hamsters!

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=56544052762

Anonymous said...

They shouldn't say anything about him one way or another.

But that is not the road they've chosen. See their Free Bradley Twitter avatar.

Anonymous said...

oops. didn't Mushr00m had beaten me to it.

Enron said...

Ah so a "reasonable person" is like a doughnut. Makes sense.

Orlando said...

I love how Wolf Blitzer can't resist mentioning "...listening to Lady Gaga!" whenever he says the name Bradley Manning.
Also, the news just told me that there has been a poll taken and I'm in the unserious minority.

Anonymous said...

Fish: it was real, back over the summer. First comment.

Anonymous said...

Digby haz a sad:

"People who do not get that the Republicans planned this --- and are thrilled to keep it going for another two years --- are failing to understand the political reality.

But more depressing than anything, the Democrats are now actively doing their dirty work for them and are on the verge of doing the same thing with the payroll tax, which pretty much destroys the whole concept of the Social Security trust fund -- and further opens the door to cuts in the program. It will not be any easier to restore that tax than the tax cuts for millionaires. Indeed, it will be more difficult.

At some point you either have to question whether they are simply working for the oligarchs too. Not that it matters because whether it's out of ineptitude or complicity, the end result is the same."

Anonymous said...

"I'll call it La fanciulla del Upper West Side: What's wrong with la trattoria?

Justin said...

Digby has been having her Road to Damascus moment for closing in on 3 years now. It's a helluva moment for her and I don't think it will ever end.

Anonymous said...

I love you, Ioz.
You're a reminder of how much better everything tastes served with a side of wit.

Anonymous said...

@Justin
"...when her salary depends on her not understanding it"
or somesuch.

Capt'n Obvious

Anonymous said...

IOZ has been getting to be a one-trick cat recently, but Yglesias-bashing --- it's always a good trick.

There must be something wrong with me because I love watching the brutalization of evil woodchucks.

Anonymous said...

IOZ has been getting to be a one-trick cat recently, but Yglesias-bashing --- it's always a good trick.

There must be something wrong with me because I love watching the brutalization of evil woodchucks.

Anonymous said...

IOZ has been getting to be a one-trick cat recently, but Yglesias-bashing --- it's always a good trick.

There must be something wrong with me because I love watching the brutalization of evil woodchucks.

mistah charley, ph.d. said...

Your last paragraph reminded me of John Lennon's song "Crippled Inside"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7v0O8M5vKc

Michael Smith said...

More like La Puttana del Upper West Side. But does he really live here? Ugh. How depressing.

Michael Smith said...

Esprit d'escalier department: La Pancetta del Upper West Side.

IOZ said...

Title role sung by Jane Eaglen.

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