Lemme just put a proposition to yinz. This Loughner fellow, he thought that the federal government was trying to control his mind through the deep structures of grammar and syntax, through meddling with his conscious dream-states, and so he got himself a gun and shot a member of the federal government, plus, you know, some collateral civilians. I say to you that he is not a murderer. He is merely a victim of faulty intelligence. He cannot be held morally responsible. No one could have known at the time! I think the best result will be that perhaps, after a period of instability and uncertainty, the state of Arizona will once achieve some reasonable level of self-government, you know, for the region. It will generally be able to secure its borders, hold reasonably free and fair elections. I think if we see that outcome within the next six months to six thousand years, then it will be impossible to condemn fully the initial action, erroneous though it may have been.
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IOZ, how dare you use a tragedy to score cheap political points!
We will never leave Arizona. Just look at the permanent military bases.
i never think like that and say like that. how cool you are.
Y'all gettin' all Chomsky 'n transformational grammar 'n shit. Wouldn't a simple duodenal flux make you feel so much better?
"the state of Arizona will once achieve some reasonable level of self-government, you know, for the region."
Obviously Monsieur has never traversed the Sonoran.
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I say to you that he is not a murderer. He is merely a victim of faulty intelligence.
Why yes.
If what the "Tea Party" says is correct, that Obama is Hitler and the Democrats are bringing IslamoCommunism to America, than Giffords was just a minor gauleiter in the Fourth Reich.
Then again, if you believe that the US government is committing war crimes in Afghanistan, why haven't you taken up arms?
Does having a blog where you throw out witty one liners mean you can't be a "good German."
Ooh 8:30, I know this one!
Tell me how taking up arms will change the commission of war crimes in Afghanistan.
Tell me how taking up arms will change the commission of war crimes in Afghanistan.
What stopped the Soviet commission of war crimes in Afghanistan?
Buahahaha! it was an American style hit! no wonder we recognized it so easily.
Let's not forget what sort of awful things might have happened if he had not shot those people. That nine year old girl could have grown up to be Hitler. Think about that for a minute.
What stopped the Soviet commission of war crimes in Afghanistan?
The release of "The Head on The Door" kicked off the exit strategy, and full withdrawal was complete in time for Generals Yazov and Gromov to attend the Prayer Tour.
What stopped the Soviet commission of war crimes in Afghanistan?
Two words, Ziggy Brzezinski.
Oh, and, that worked out so well...
This Loughner fellow, he thought that the federal government was trying to control his mind through the deep structures of grammar and syntax
Um, well, uh...
This is ahistorical reasoning. History is in motion; "A" does not equal "A". You express a flippant lack of dialectical reasoning..
Loughner is guilty of faulty analysis, namely the analysis of whether or not his actions would produce the desired effect.
"It was worse than a crime; it was a mistake." - Tallyrand
So, this dude had to kill Giffords in order to save her? We are talking about the conflict between those of us in the reality based community and those of us in the potentiality community, aren't we? Good, neo-convoluted logic says I...or, to cite Stalin or Lenin or one of those other great Americans, "Killing and injuring 20 is a tragedy; killing several hundred thousand is a statistic. Of course, Ted Williams .400 season is a statistic. Statistics are statistics...
Isn't the government trying to control our minds?
Wow... it amazes me that people really don't get this...
Violence (a) = Violence (b)
Yapping about justifications/non-justifications, sense & the sensible, and whether or not Francis Bacon is the greatest painter of all time... Good lord! It's an equation. And it is correct.
Nihilists! fuck me.
Truly, your weakest yet, brother.
Wait, is this about that thing in Granada?
So because we used/created a militant Islamic insurgency to stop Soviet war, that means that the only way to stop a war is...
Alright. You know, by all means. You're right. IOZ must take up violent resistance or else he is a hypocrite. What an elegant conclusion and not at all a tired, obvious taunt.
I can only assume Anonymous also thinks that King should've grabbed a rifle and started gunning dudes down as soon as he started opposing the Vietnam War.
at the risk of associating myself with the rantings of a probably mentally ill murderer, i think, though perhaps for different reasons, that "What is government if words have no meaning?" is a fascinating question.
We have learnt history more thoroughly than the others. We differ from all others in our logical consistency. We know that virtue does not matter to history, and that crimes remain unpunished; but that every error had its consequences and venges itself unto the seventh generation. Therefore we concentrated all our efforts on preventing error and destroying the very seeds of it.
I'll take "What is government if words have no meaning?" for $500, Alex.
I imagine that the suffering of the shooter's parents is even worse than that of the little girl's.
This is like the faulty intelligence that coach and Tiffany have, thinking that anyone who reads this site has the inclination to purchase handbags and earrings. Johnny Weir is not a drag queen, dude.
Anon@10:14 AM
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What is Coach Outlet if the words have no meaning?
A dictionary begins when it no longer gives the meaning of words, but their tasks.
-Georges Bataille
Sure, funding the spam bots might seem counterproductive at the time, but I think we have planted the seeds of intelligent discourse, here. The next 6 months will be crucial in the evolution of spambot dialog and only time will tell whether creating artificial intelligence to hawk overpriced and useless junk was a tragic mistake or a valiant sacrifice.
One of my clients is actually an exclusive supplier to Tiffany. I promise, the Tiffany bot is not me!
What is meaning if words have no gummint? What is words if gummint has no meaning? Are there words? Is word?
What is man that thou art mindful of him?
This crapulating empire would be a lot more fracking fun if we ran the entire White House press corpse through the cuisinart and sat fifteen homicidal Nietzscheans, six superannuated ordinary language philosphers, three liberation theologians and two Gertie Stein wannabes in their seats. Then we'd get some goddam words!
"the deep structures of grammar and syntax"
Get with it bro - writing that is like wearing bell-bottoms.
It's been "the minimalist program for a good ten years now ...
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