Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Even Homer Sods

Lulz. This Catholic report is hysterical. Oh, god, we did not know how to cope with the increase in legal divorce in the late sixties, so, um, we had sex with schoolboys. Well, it is fun to make fun of Catholics and gall their gaudy cult a gang of child rapists, but the interesting point may yet be that pedophilia is, as before noted in these very pages, not exactly the right word, and what the Catholic clergy is really rife with are ephebophiles, a cult devoted to the beauty of male youth. This only adds to my theory that the Catholic Church, such as it is, is the last bastion of classical civilization, a pantsless remnant of our pagan antiquity in this age of dour monotheism.

42 comments:

Paul Alexander said...

The father awoke before dawn, he took his pants off
He took a child from the local nursery
AND HE WALKED ON DOWN THE HALL
He went into the room where a sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to a brother, and then he
HE WALKED ON DOWN THE HALL, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Child, yes father, I want to fuck you

ts said...

Yeah, but they're not going to remind anyone of Plato or Socrates with an argument of that quality.

Anonymous said...

Very interesting hypothesis, IOZ.

rob payne said...

We can never call anything what it actually is. But when we do have to call something what it is we change the meaning of words.

Leonard said...

what the Catholic clergy is really rife with are ephebophiles, a cult devoted to the beauty of male youth.

So, you're saying you understand where they're cumming from?

Inkberrow said...

Gotta keep the "Roman" in Roman Catholic.

Meanwhile, altar boys in the Forties and Fifties were reactionary, not subversive.

Dunc said...

"This only adds to my theory that the Catholic Church, such as it is, is the last bastion of classical civilization"

I'd more argue that it's the last bastion of Bronze Age animism / ancestor-worship, what with the whole thing about the relics of the Saints... However, I'd also argue that the offenders are neither paedophiles nor ephebophiles, but power-tripping bastards. There is ample evidence that they'll abuse anyone they have sufficient power over, without regard to age or gender. It's just that they tend to have more power over non-adults.

Happy Jack said...

Moby Grape caused the silicon chips inside their heads to switch to overload.

Anonymous said...

So what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass is you issue a report written by a blue ribbon panel (of flunkies) hahaha.

LA Confidential Pantload said...

It was stress that made them boy-buggerers? I thought that was Newt's excuse for serial adultery. One size fits all, I 'spose.

la Rana said...

Not that this is to the contrary, but yer resident abogado loves him some: "It was not pedophilia because they were not prepubescent, which we determined by unilaterally changing the date for determining prepubescence from the accepted standard."

This is the only way I get to read the times, btw, so keep them links coming.

demize! said...

Godammit; The Devils by Ken Russel! Father Urban Granier fucked around like a bastard, even conducted his own marriage, in secret to a little tart. But for worship of the young male classical form; Saint Sebastian by Derek Jarman. Very faggy, very good. I Told I was obsessed, I even wrote poems with huge censers as a theme. I was kind enough to spare you this...

Professor Coldheart said...

They're hedging their bets before the Rapture this weekend. Not that Cat-a-licks believe in a literal Rapture, but never hurts to put a little money on the Don't Pass line.

Christopher M said...

Pretty sure there's been plenty of plain ol' prepubescent child rape amongst the Catholic clergy, IOZ. For that matter, plenty of victims have been girls. That the predators in question have tended to go after boys in greater numbers seems to be more a matter of opportunity than that of "a cult devoted to the beauty of male youth" - acolytes, altar boys, youth choirs and such in the Catholic church ensure that priests are surrounded by kids who are disproportionately male.

G said...

So IOZ, you're saying you want to be a Catholic priest when you grow up?

Me too. Me too.

Montag said...

power is as power buggers.

lucid said...

In blending Ioz's and Christopher M's posts - actually the cult of the Charities was a prime reason for the deification of the beauty & exuberance of all youth, regardless of sex, and this particular cult was the moral center of early Greek culture prior to the rise of the Sophists.

So while they may not be ephebophiles, they are certainly still a pantsless remnant of our pagan antiquity.

Anonymous said...

they were threatening castration! Are we going to split hairs, here?

Anonymous said...

say what you want about the tenets of this pantsless remnant of our pagan antiquity, at least its an ethos.

Father Pantsless Sockpuppet said...

First, I just have to express how inspiriting I find the understanding that I read from the commentary thus far.

One other thing I'd like to point out is that if you take into consideration the number of consensual relationships we enjoy with these succulent creatures, the rapes pale in comparison.

Go and sin no more. Call me!

Anonymous said...

The people want to topple little boys pants!

la Rana said...

also, uh, dude, "hysterical" is not quite right. The origin of that word is the one thing conspicuously missing here.

Aeolus said...

The linked article points out that this made-to-order $1.8 million study used a much younger cutoff age than the standard DSM definition of "pedophilia" (age 10 versus age 13). If the more stringent definition is used, most incidents of Pastoral Care Extra (tm) were indeed with The Chilluns. I don't think love of 11 year olds qualifies as "ephebophilia."

It seems rather banal to say that Catholicism is the last bastion of classical civilization, given Latin, Rome, etc.

mistah charley, ph.d. said...

In my bachelor days, I met an Episcopalian priestess I was sort of attracted to, and got the feeling she felt the same way, kind of - but, well, the animal magnetism wasn't all that strong, and so it goes, or in this case, doesn't go. We were both well above the age of consent. It could be another verse in Randy Newman's song "The Girls in My Life - Part 1."

Anonymous said...

@ La Rana: try this link and read as much (or as little) as you want:

http://euri.ca/2011/03/21/get-around-new-york-times-20-article-limit/

Anonymous said...

IOZ, why haven't you posted about Yglesias getting beat up?

Anonymous said...

Too deserved.

Anonymous said...

A Popsicle "priestess"?

Ya know - that makes me wonder whether in Reform Judaism, if the Rabbi happens to be a woman, do they call her husband "the rebbitzen"?

IOZ said...

You're right, frog.

Soj said...

Uh just because they're not as popular in America, don't dismiss the Orthodox church. They're quite a bastion of medievael pagan goodness as well :)

Also not quite sure why I refer to it in the plural.

rob payne said...

Okay,but they built some great cathedrals with gargoyles. this is the root for the word gargle, gargoyles were rain spouts by function.

So you see, if the Atlantic Ocean is in orbit around Jupiter we can see that the reason for the bad economy is that technology hasn't kept up with its promise of a happy future in anti-gravity trade.

You read it here first!

Anonymous said...

Hey, but they are praying for the forgiveness of Osama bin Ladin.

Anonymous said...

The Greeks et. al may have appreciated the beauty of male youth but they did end up fucking them in the end, ethical mandates of some philosophers aside. The "social and sexual turmoil" in Athens was hard to resist too.

Anonymous said...

Lame, Monsieur, lame.

"But, them papist are worser"

Lame-o.

Of course, if the garbageness and the real motivation for singling out papists for MSM hystrionics, would have been called beforehand such embarrassing contortions would not be necessary. Lest ye be judged.

Just remeber Monsieur, after the papists are rudely put into place (like the deserving little pedophile bitches that they are), it's the zhyds turn for some correction from the powers-that-be.

Capt'n Obvious

Anonymous said...

P.S.

And Amen! to Brother Montag.

Capt'n Obvious

Anonymous said...

The difference being the seduction by an adult noble dude certainly already married and otherwise totally heterosexual of an aristocratic boytween of ancient yoretimes was consensual (the chase, complete with sweetmeats, love letters, and flowers half the fun), supposed to "teach" the boy summat about gulls, and was the subject of infinite amounts of romantic poetry and art, while the rape of said boy was punishable by execution. (Rape of most women didn't count as rape; rape of women owned by noble dudes resulted in payment towards the degradation of noble dude's "property." Passive homosexuality -- the kind between adult dudes -- was not actually that cool.) Sorta not at all the same, IOZ.

demize! said...

“The Greeks et. al may have appreciated the beauty of male youth but they did end up fucking them in the end" Yes they did, quite literally. That's why they're called Greeks.

Uncle Ted said...

OMG that is awful reporting.

The USCCB are a bunch of pussies. In what other universe does a grouping of powerful U.S. men slavishly follow a bunch of shriveling dickheads in "Old Europe"?

'This report will satisfy neither flank'.
Change that to "cheek".

Bunch of ass-wipers....

BRIAN M said...

Hey! Stop focusing on the evils of the catholics. After all, theya re the only thing, the only thing I tell you, standing between us and Mammon. 'cause the Catholic Church has ALWAYS been so very very liberal and progressive, you know? Never been, as AN INSTITUTION, totally 100% in bed with power (including...Godwin alert...Germany during the 1930s and 1940s). Heck, look at how progressive the Catholic Church was in Ireland. Those Madelaine Laudaries were practically socialist, you all. That's why TEH EVIL CAPITALIST CONSPIRACY had to shut them down!

I think we need to bring back the Papal States, man. I mean, the Islamists can dream about the Caliphate, why can't I dream about some reincarnated Medici pope ruling overall all Christiandom? Praise His Holy Father benny the Ratt...he would make a great Supreme Ruler, no?

Anonymous said...

If they illustrated it with finger puppets it would be easier for Americans to understand.

Anonymous said...

I owe you an apology, Zoz. I originally posted this in the wrong damn thread and when I didnt' see it in this one, I assume you had a prissy-fit and deleted it ...

In the immortal words of Brendan Behan (from "The Hostage")

When Socrates in Ancient Greece
sat in his Turkish bath -
he scrubbed himself
and rubbed himself
and steamed both fore and aft.

He sang the song the sirens sang
from Swinburne to Shakespeare
We're here because we're queer
we're queer because we're here.

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