Tuesday, August 16, 2011

The Inner Outer Party Party

It goes without saying that Ron Paul and I have equal chances of becoming the next president of the United States; this is why no one is covering his campaign.  Now I like Ron Paul, but I also admit and understand that Ron Paul is a patsy, or a reliable stooge--the Denny Kuciny of the Republican Right, a convenient sheepdog to herd the slouches and stragglers back into the sheepfold.  Asking why these people are included in debates and campaigns even as they are accorded the most seemingly disdainful treatment by the apparati of propaganda is to perceive a wrong note in what is really a skillfully modulated key.  YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH MORONS HERE!  They reinforce the loyalty of the more ideological fringes of the parties while also ensuring that many marginal types hear some hint of hope, honor, decency . . .  reform within the system.  Well Ron Paul might not win, some libertarian somewhere is telling himself, but if he can at least run a campaign . . . You fool; you rube!  Ron Paul is tolerated by the system he ostensibly opposes because his opposition is merely incidental; its effect is to strengthen the system by making it ever more inevitable.  Ersatz intellectual diversity superimposed on the public facade of the ruling class is an affect overlying an underlying unanimity among the actually powerful.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is why we can't have nice things.

Anonymous said...

While eating breakfast, I noticed a tinge of acidity in my corn flakes. Now, I know why.

Anonymous said...

"Ersatz intellectual diversity superimposed on the public facade of the ruling class is an affect overlying an underlying unanimity among the actually powerful."

Something Paul Krassner noticed when there was no concerted reaction to his claim in The Realist that on the flight back from Dallas, LBJ was fucking JFK's corpse in the neck to make the exit wound look like an entry wound.

And you too, my friend, are but a jester.

Montag said...

"you cannot combat alienation by means of alienated forms of struggle."

Anonymous said...

But you can pick your friend's nose, if you're into it ...

ergo said...

Monsieur, I agree with most of what you say here, but, compare this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Mj9iAkvLQ

A long series of lefty boilerplate followed by "Up with the Democratic Party! Up with Obama Biden!"

to this:

http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-baldwin-for-president/

One of these two is not serving the same herding function as the other.

Karl Franz Ochstradt said...

Paul = Kucinich is close, but definitely not a bullseye. Might even have missed the target. Depends on what target you're seeking.

What is different between the two is which man causes ideologues and partisan piss-heads to cross their party allegiances. How many did Wee Denny the Circus Midget get from the GOP? Is the number even out of the negative integer range?

At the level of whether either can become POTUS... of course they're equal. Voting indeed is a charade; it's no great intellectual insight to say that. I'm pretty sure most of your regular readers aren't here to have that basic truth confirmed.

Joe said...

Or, put another way, Paul is the nerd walking down the hall with his underwear hanging over the back of his pants after being wrestled to the ground and given yet another massive wedgie by Mitt and Rick, while Tim and Michelle and the rest of the cool crowd stood around laughing.

Shlomo McCracken said...

If the media were actually supportive of his "herding" campaign, they wouldn't ignore him. Why would they? He would serve their purposes.

See, the problem is that you think that everything that exists is the product of some nefarious system. It's a conspiracy theory view of the world. But the world just doesn't work that way. Things happen that the powers can't/don't plan for. Else, the powers would never be defeated or overthrown or surprised. Yet this happens a lot.

Ron Paul has little chance to win, but the idea that he's a stooge of the system, man, ignores the fact that the media and his own party treat him like he's covered in AIDS.

Or does that just show how clever they are?!?!?

Inkberrow said...

Karl---

Paul or Kucinich (or Paul and Kucinich) in a third party would change the contours, leverage more truth-telling. Things don't change often, but no, voting is not yet a charade. Jaded and degraded, maybe, like county and state fairs.

Still, the search for a baseline sputters on. A friend tells Augie March, "You can't adjust to the reality situation....you should accept the data of experience". Augie replies, "It can never be right to offer to die, and if that's what the data of experience tell you, then you must get along without them".

Professor Coldheart said...

ignores the fact that the media

How did you hear about Ron Paul? Clairvoyance?

Also, don't confuse the grinding efficiency of the system with the presumption that Somebody is in charge. There isn't.

LuckyLaud said...

Ron Paul is tolerated by the system he ostensibly opposes because his opposition is merely incidental; its effect is to strengthen the system by making it ever more inevitable. Ersatz intellectual diversity superimposed on the public facade of the ruling class is an affect overlying an underlying unanimity among the actually powerful.

- I came a little when I read this.

IOZ said...

Society is a conspiracy. All social theories are conspiracy theories.

Anonymous said...

Hey Zoz - why dontcha do one last post over at SlateBestoftheFray?

In case ya ain't heard, mgmt is closin down the board, and it would be kinda nice to see your byline over there one last time ...

Paul Alexander said...

The System is infallible! RETREAT!

almostinfamous said...

so what you are saying is that the fundamental design flaws are hidden by the superficial design flaws?

Anonymous said...

to almost infamous ... ya gotta look-up ol' Alexander King's story about how he fucked up on his first paid commercial-art job ... quite relevant ... I think it's in his book "May This House Be Safe From Tigers" ...

ergo said...

Gonna get some flack for this, but I'm not convinced Ron Paul can't win next year. Yeah it's a longshot, and yeah, it would take a miracle for him to win the Republican nomination (though that would be fucking hilarious seeing the neocons either eat shit or line up behind Obama or some third party crackpot in that event). But everyone knows he's retiring from Congress. Once it's clear he's not getting the nomination from the GOP, he's virtually guaranteed the LP and CP nomination slots if he wants them. The dynamics are not all that different from 1992 (bad economy, incumbent with dissatisfied base, embarrassing opposition party). What if Perot hadn't dropped out in June when he was leading Bush and Clinton in polling? Who knows what would have happened?

demize! said...

IOZ said... Society is a conspiracy. All social theories are conspiracy theories.
I have conspired to repost the above, without the express consent of the original author. You see what I'm getting at here Shlomo? Systems are 'conspiracies' they have been carefully instated by "actors" to the purpose of automatically advancing their aims.

anne said...

,to some joe, ..there is nothing cool about michelle,whoever she is ,and those boys mentioned with .. ..there is no chance that she ever was.. ..ron paul ,in the little i've seen from here ..is the only one that has a hint of something cool in him.. ..but still i know very little of.. all of them ..i stay with.. of.. the globe/other ..and on the street here ..of my politics.. / ..i guess that is the.. true north ..difference between..up north of your border here ..and where you are .. we know what cool is .. ,said the girl that was hanging with catherine o'hara's brother on the weekend ..

President Gas said...

Professor Coldheart:

I first heard about Ron Paul in Linklater's Slacker (1991). His name is on a billboard in the background, and after the foreground action is done, the camera just holds on it, seemingly for minutes, prophesying.

Paul and Kucinich are used to bait citizens back to the fold, yes, but not because of what they promise, which is adolescent and obvious and would make everyone glad if it came to pass. No, they're attractive because dropping them into the center of the reality hive would fuck up so many irreplaceable parts that the prospect of watching the heaving conglomeration try to "correct" itself from such a catastrophe would be a miracle of systems evolution.

Everyone wants to see that and for the same sick reason that people dream of President Palin or any of the other freaking creatures who wander out of the swamp of our collective unconscious, making promises.

anne said...

, of gas .. ...... will some nice hacker,street artist ..start posting up signs ..saying ..michael palin for pres. ..everywhere ..i mean everywhere .. ..he lives there sometimes ..doesn't he . ,.,) ..

Shlomo McCracken said...

Ron Paul is tolerated by the system he ostensibly opposes because his opposition is merely incidental

This is a conspiracy theory, M. IOZ. "Systems" don't act, people do. If he is being tolerated (whatever that means) because he furthers The System, then someone in The System is tolerating and using him. And that's a conspiracy theory.

The other alternative is that by "tolerate" you mean that the System is set up to allow politicians to enter primaries, start webpages and meet-ups, and accept public money. But if that's what you mean, then you really haven't said anything at all.

As for when, I heard of Ron Paul on LRC in the late 90s. The media is working overtime to ignore him, a fact so obvious only a comedian could mention it.

Anonymous said...

check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqVQ5oUkU6w

Alex Jones-aid!

Professor Coldheart said...

"Systems" don't act, people do. If he is being tolerated (whatever that means) because he furthers The System, then someone in The System is tolerating and using him.

See, this isn't wrong (as far as the quoted section goes), so I'll address it.

There's no one person who has a vested interest in keeping all of America stupid. Mitt Romney (picking one of the crew at random) wants to be elected President. He wants that because he wants power. To do that, he has to get the support of large voting blocs, make promises to people with money and clout, and trade favors with other members of the party machine. These various groups benefit from his election, to varying degrees, by having access to the halls of power.

Once Romney is elected, he and the people who rode to power on his coattails will become the "people with money and clout" and the "other members of the party machine" referenced above. They will be kingmakers in the next election. And the cycle continues.

If we were to call this cycle "the System" and ascribe intentionality to it, we could say that it is in the System's interest to concentrate power in the hands of the creditor class, to limit the narrative about the social order to a small set of dogma, and to keep poor black and Hispanic people pacified. The System "wants" this even though, as you say, there is no system. It "wants" this because (1) everyone wants power, and (2) to get power, you have to pursue those ends.

Take the last point, for instance, re: inner city minorities. Mitt Romney probably doesn't hate black people. (This is my guess, based on having suffered under his governorship for a few years) He probably thinks that all that the urban poor need is an end to the culture of entitlement that the welfare state encourages and a few charter schools. He might genuinely believe that! But if he says that loud enough and long enough, and if he gets enough power to put that into practice, the end result will be the same as if there were a giant invisible hand nudging him toward West Roxbury, MA in a giant suit of mechanized anime armor.

That's what it means to say "The System wants" something. It's a shorthand, but it's a useful one.

Shane said...

Monsieur, today's flight path disturbingly close to Glenn Greenwald's - http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/08/16/elections/index.html
No worries, the drink service wasn't delayed.

davidly said...

Wow! Did Herr Monsieur just say that a council of hook-nose lizards coordinate party stategy or is that just what Mo Cracken thinks when he ain't typing or got his mouth open?

IOZ said...

You look at your basic Clinton or Kissinger, and you ask yourself, you ask: if you're a shapeshifting reptilian, WHY THAT SHAPE?

Anonymous said...

"But all the king's horses and all the king's men cannot put the New World Order's garbage and propaganda back together again, because we know they're a pack of criminal liars."
-Alex Jones from that video nony posted at 5:50

You think that will make it into Bartlett's one day??

Anonymous said...

one of the least believable things i've read here. i'm not sure with the obsession with Ron Paul is all about. it extends from nominally left of center types to self-absorbed faux-anarchist iconoclasts (cough). i get that people who don't really go in for economics see the romantic, oh-so-Galitan speeches and peg him as some sort of hero but he's a crank - the gold standard? there's nothing heroic or "liberatory" about having a hardon for creditors and investors over the average joe. sometimes you knock it out of the park but this is pretty spurious and superficial to boot

Anonymous said...

actually what this post reminds me most of is that Kierkegaard quote about how, upon reaching a certain level of education/class, it becomes very unfashionable to take strong positions on things - people become more concerned with being counterintuitive or holding outré opinions just for the sake of appearing independent minded. forgive me if this is in bad faith but most people who get into RP really have no understanding of what the actual consequences of his policies would be nor do they seem to care - it's just about bein' a tough good ol American except not like those lame sellout Republicans but a Real American Hero like Ronnie

The Mathmos said...

"most people who get into RP really have no understanding of what the actual consequences of his policies would be nor do they seem to care"

That's uh, quite the distinguishing characteristic for an American politics.

davidly said...

Leave it to Nony Doublestuffs to point out the unique naïveté of those who "get into RP".

davidly said...

If you wanna have a shape like Tom Cruise you gotta do those kinds of movies. Plus you never achieve any more power than that of a sea-org rear admiral or some shit.

demize! said...

"Rear Admiral" hehe...

Jack Crow said...

Prof. Coldheart did not get the kudos he deserves for his last reply.

Anonymous said...

Was IOZ or any of his posse at the reunion?

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/16/big-lebowski-reunion/?hpt=hp_c2

Frederick said...

Paulie Kukucinich 2012!

http://guysfromarea51.blogspot.com/2011/07/quite-simply-only-person-i-could-vote.html

la Rana said...

Let me see if I've got this right Nony: you don't find it believable that Paul is the veritable rabbit at the dog race because you don't understand why people like Paul, insofar as his economic proposals would turn the US into a nation of debtors, which reminds you of a quote you can't quite recall about the strong positions versus iconoclasm that ol' existentialism was yappin' about and like people just like Paul because he is a tough real American.

I say unto you, this is so fucking stupid and incoherent it has alone woken me from my commentary slumbers.

Anonymous said...

with obama we at least are winning the future!

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/navy-bomb-squads-get-a-solar-power-makeover.php?ref=fpblg

Nathan said...

My service was interrupted! For, like, two months! Man, have I missed this blog.