Man, it's too bad that Mark Duggan wasn't Iranian; all the same assholes who are like, "Oh, the rioting, Oh, the looting, Oh, the humanity!" would be making room for another green ribbon between their LiveStrong bracelet and Kabala string. I was in fact just chatting with a liberalische acquaintance the other day, the sort of gal who hates Bush and is sorely disappointed in Obama, and she said, in regard to the ongoing Syrian uphevals, the kids in Greece and Spain, the Israelis, etc. etc., that it was really a shame that Americans no longer protested: too fat, lazy, apolitical, and so on to take to the streets. "Girl wut?" I sez. Americans still take to the streets when injustice is done. They just happen to be black most of the time, and your nice liberal show of solidarity is to lock the doors in your distant enclave lest the niggers come for your TV too. If his name had been El-Rodney Al-King and he'd gotten the beat-down in some market square in East Whutupistan, you'd be poring over headlines about Violent protests in response to brutal crackdowns by state security forces. But, anyway, as for the current sitcheeyayshun: somehow I doubt that we're going to hear too much about the poor youth of London demanding a better life after years of economic stagnation and political neglect.
Monday, August 08, 2011
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Now it appears the bullet that lodged in the police radio came from a police weapon. How much do you care to bet that the 'non-police' handgun found at the scene was a throw away? p.s. The Guardian UK seems to be a pretty reliable source again.
earlier, in Wisconsin, USA, at the State Fair...
Yeah, the Guardian has been pretty good. It's funny; the only reason I even had the Guardian on my reader was that it had a good Tour de France blog.
I thought this thing started because there was a rumour Spurs had sold Bale to Barcelona.
This is ridiculous. Most of the youths involved in the riot seemed to have been merely looting places like Foot Locker and so on, which could hardly be expressed as some grand gesture against overweening capitalism, established authority, etc. The BBM message which helped catalyze the riots reads thus:
Everyone in edmonton enfield woodgreen everywhere in north link up at enfield town station 4 o clock sharp!!!! Start leaving ur yards n linking up with you niggas. Guck da feds, bring your ballys and your bags trollys, cars vans, hammers the lot!! Keep sending this around to bare man, make sure no snitch boys get dis!!! What ever ends your from put your ballys on link up and cause havic, just rob everything. Police can't stop it. Dead the fires though!! Rebroadcast!!!!!"
"just rob everything." What more needs to be said?
"That's private property" - Col. Bat Guano
Myles stop trying to ruin every single blog comment section that is vaguely interesting.
Still the cops murdered some dude, and frankly looting footlocker seems like a good response.
Whenever a homie I know gets shot by the coppers, I steal a pair of Jordans. Fuck you pigs!
why won't people riot rationally?
Rational Riot Theory. Ask Yglesias what Brad DeLong thinx.
Rioters often avoid the complications that infrastructure plays in executing a social disturbance. Sidewalk space could be much better utilized.
So... you're saying... HELTER SKELTER!
the cops are there to protect property, right? you could punch a cop, but they'll tase, bludgeon, lock up or just fucking shoot you. considering the alternatives, going after the property the cops are supposed to be looking after is somewhat safer, and isn't totally off base, is it?
It's great how there's an extra level of citizenship that you can buy into in Western societies. You might have a right to just chill out in a place, but if I buy that place, I have "super-citizenship" that trumps yours.
“@chogokin "The looting stuff is so tiresome. Of course there was looting. Its a riot. If there was not looting it would not be a riot. whats interesting is the speed with which this spread. As one Somali shop keeper put it, we're discussing 'American style social inequalities' here. Thats the real story (the somali guy was great I thought: the BBC were in desperate search for the outraged petite bourgoise and found an intelligent reflective guy: its just so annoying). I'm so tired of the script though. 'nothing justifies', 'small minority', 'outsiders', etc, etc. The one difference between today and 1985 is that the politicians have got worst. David Lammy. What a tosser. " #tottenham #londonsburning ”
Thats was a comment from LENIN'S TOMB tweeted by me fyi. In response to @Myles
the BBC were in desperate search for the outraged petite bourgoise and found an intelligent reflective guy: its just so annoying
Yes indeed, having your shop torched isn't "so annoying," but having the temerity to talk about it to the television station is "so annoying."
What an amazingly awesome set of priorities right now. The only good kulak is a dead kulak, right? Glad to see you got your Stalinism right.
While I sympathize with the "small business owners" Foot Locker and Barclays Bank dont strike mw as being eligible for forced collectivisation. The point being, that I thought would be obvious is that Rebellions dont always take the form that Liberals find exceptable. This is a form of cultural imperialism. Its like the rapid criticisms you will hear coming from leftists and even antizionists regarding Hamas or Hizbullah. Resistance is sometimes ugly.
Resistance is sometimes ugly.
In that case they should be subject to relevant legal prosecution. If your conscience demands that you smash things up, fine, but I don't want to hear any Marxists or anarchists complaining when the police lock them up for real.
As far as I am concerned, this isn't even a riot or rebellion or whatever nonsense. This is just a large number of people committing illegal acts, and thus the legal system should deal with them as appropriate. They do not deserve a political angle.
but I don't want to hear any Marxists or anarchists complaining when the police lock them up for real.
WAT?
Myles, I commend you in your struggle. Not many humans with your kind of severe brain trauma go on to blawg in defense of the state with such vigor. I hate it when a large number of people commit illegal acts, almost as much as mlkjr did.
Myles,
Is legality what matters to you?
@Montag HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bones or clams or whatever you call them.
Ok, but if you're wrong, you're going to have to answer to the Nike corporation.
YOU DON'T THINK I'D GO INTO COMBAT WITH LOOSE CHANGE IN MY POCKET DO YA?
Is legality what matters to you?
Yes.
I smell an IOZ response on the main page to 5:18PM cooking!
Out of every tragedy, comedy:
[Met Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh] admitted relations with the family of the man shot dead by police could have been handled better.
Mr Kavanagh said: "I want to apologise to the Duggan family because I think both the IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) and the Metropolitan Police could have managed that family's needs more effectively."
Oh man. You have no idea.
from the BBC
Myles current predicament reminds me of the time I went into Victoria's Secret demanding a jock strap.
I know it's trite, but I don't see where Myles (5:18) deserves any more:
Fugitive Slave Act.
Look it up.
Are you saying we should find all the descendents of slaves, round 'em up and give them to the descendents of their owners? I think Obama's bi-racial background makes him the perfect person to make this happen!
Myles,
A bunch of rich whiteys just passed a law mandating the death penalty without trial for people who employ the internet user name Myles. You are obligated to self-defenestrate, forthwith.
Cops with batons may break my bones, (but laws will never rule me.)
I'm so clever!
Groaning with disgust, yet? How about this one:
Laws don't kill people, cops do. (As occassionally heedless obedience will.)
Weird mood so sorry.
"At Clapham Junction looters stole masks from a fancy dress store to hide their identity"
Nice
The law is my co-pilot.
http://leninology.blogspot.com/2011/08/crisis-of-ideology-and-political.html
He who smelt it, dealt it.
http://bart-calendar.livejournal.com/2190956.html
As far as I am concerned, this isn't even a riot or rebellion or whatever nonsense. This is just a large number of people committing illegal acts, and thus the legal system should deal with them as appropriate. They do not deserve a political angle.
What is the political? What is the legal? How do you distinguish?
HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY? AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?
@mp
Oh, thank you, sir. G E T S. (No topical irony intended.)
MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS DID!
The law is my co-pilot.
The law is my shepherd; I shall not want. It maketh me to lie down and lie down and lie down...
Jus shutupn bloody play you fooking twaat!
Myles offers a ready example of a coward.
thanks Myles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsRwwQJdKjE&feature=player_embedded
Speaking of solidarity, here's a good example of these noble political protesters tending to their own.
Anarchy: it just works!
Cause States never fuck up the weak and take their shit. What was your point?
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