Thursday, August 04, 2011

The Take a Dump of Labor Fallacy

Basically, as long as you can pay taxes with the new scrip, then the scrip has some kind of value and people will take it at some price. Issuing said scrip will allow Greece, Portugal, Spain, etc. to reflate their economies. This won’t change the fact that all these countries need to take a real hit to their living standards (part of the point here is precisely that the new currencies won’t be as valuable) but you won’t be in the absurd condition of having 21 percent of the Spanish workforce simply idle and unemployed.

-You Know Who
Here is neoliberalism in a pork rind: the poverty of the many is preferable to the idleness of the few.   His commenters are mocking him because he goes on to make a clumsy joke about Germany conquering the south in order to force the repayment of loans, but that's not fair; the poor dear was just trying to make a funny.  This though, is that good, home-cooked psychopathy; it is the global-gulag mentality demonstrated at its uttermost absurdity; it posits the human condition as a work camp; empty toil is better than unemployment insurance; a society universally engaged in moving piles of sand from place to place is preferable to a mere 80% engaged in real work.  Of course that 80% is charitable.  A lot of the workers are engaged in fake work.  The point is that there are more people than available work.  The solution?  Impoverish the entire society, thereby making its trinkets cheaper to . . . someone?  Germany?  Anyway, more people will then buy its Sancho Panza plush dolls; the plush-doll sector will boom, putting more people to work in the sweatshops.  At least they won't be idle!  That would be absurd!

25 comments:

mistah charley, ph.d. said...

ARBEIT MACHT FREI

Devin Lenda said...

Didn't you just say this yesterday? I mean that's cool but you got alotta hype to justify. You're Jesus to some people, dude. As if there's anything more to be said about the politics, you know? I need more understanding! Then I'll be able to change things, man! Saying it better matters! And/or, the smart people are on my side so I can feel good about myself! The bullies are vanquished! And/or what's this blog for again? It's the entertainment, of course, but once that's acknowledged, the rage is revealed as impotent and fake...suspension of disbelief works for me. And oh the entertainment... the trainwreck gotta watch pissing contest gangrape comment board. I watch it the way I watch UFC, awkwardly, uneasily, but can't look away. Am I this ugly inside? Yes, I am.

Frederick said...

Sounds like Devin needs a shovel ready project.

Leonard said...

You fail to understand progs on their own terms. Esquire Iggy's ilk don't mind the "idleness of the few". Indeed, they choose idleness for as many possible (on the government dole, of course, which creates dependence and thus reliable voting) whenever they can afford to. Which political faction gets the blame for (or deserves the credit, if you're stupid) for social security? For unfunded or underfunded public employees pension funds? For the great society? Medicare? Medicaid? Obamacare? For minimum wages? For public unemployment "insurance" (actually, unemployment subsidies)? That's right -- progressives, for each and all. Every one of these policies subsidizes non-work, often for those that cannot, but increasingly for those that can. And of course, the recipients of this largess are inner party partisans. They're paid, and they return votes. Patronage is a human universal.

Thing is, strangely, people cannot live forever on the backs of others. You can legally set the retirement age at 22, but you cannot change the laws of economics to allow everyone the same standard of living as a society where people actually work.

(Yeah: work. Your anti-work blather is hilarious. How does a society get the wealth to redistribute to pay for all that "unemployment insurance" and "fake work" work that you posit? Yeah: real work.)

In the case of a society hitting the debt wall, progs think the two options are:
(1) shared impoverization of the whole, mediated fairly by the state through democratic processes
(2) poverty of the many, unmediated by the state
Of those, progs will take option 1 every time, because in the progressive worldview equality is everything and only the society collectively (in practice, the state) can insure property fairness.

Karl Franz Ochstradt said...

When I was at the Dalton School with many famous celebrities and scions of multimillion dollar trustfunds, I learned that the peonage are too stupid to value individual freedom, which inevitably means fake "work" for grandiose pay is left to superior minds like my own... clever grifters like myself.

--Matthew Yglesias at the 2003American Prospect xmas party

Devin Lenda said...

Here I make of myself the low-hanging fruit, and here comes Frederick to wittily pluck me away to present to master. I like a theory with predictive power.

George Jones said...

"A lot of the workers are engaged in fake work."

Lord knows I do a lot of fake work on social constructs.

Frederick said...

Your anti-work blather is hilarious. How does a society get the wealth to redistribute to pay for all that "unemployment insurance" and "fake work" work that you posit?

By working Devin harder! Efficient productive workers don't have time to peruse blogs they can't appreciate anyways. Now about those TPS reports...

IOZ said...

Crystal Reports FOR EVERYONE!!!!

Devin Lenda said...

yins just reading from the script now. improvise!

Anonymous said...

man, people coming out of the woodwork to defend WORK!

this is why that asshole in the last thread who suggested "cultural revolution" is such an asshole. the tide ain't turning. i just do my best to be a part of the absurdly idle, at work or not.

Mr.Fundamental said...

what's entertaining is to hear people in this office complain that someone at another office just ate up their budget - because, they at the other office have not much other work, and regional boss was just trying to fill a gap by getting them some work.

THE WORK EXPANDS TO FILL THE TIME. if I'm billing, you'd better get good at justifying! lulz.

El Serracho! said...

You might be a twat if.. you think "work ethic" is a real or useful thing.

Anonymous said...

Yglesias knows something that you don't, which is that being on unemployment is more soul-killing than wage-slavery.

And some don't get to unemployment, of course. For them, idleness means a life on the street.

But, you know, down with employment!

Julian

Anonymous said...

Are we talking about actually existing idleness?

IOZ said...

Just because we're bereaved that doesn't make us saps!

mp said...

i thought we were talking about the difference b/w purposeful and purposeless work, the latter occupying a shitload of time to no better purpose except to hold a credit card long enough to go in debt on an iPad, etc. this purposeless work is also called the american dream (middle class, white collar version) and, no, it hasn't made anybody feel better yet, which is why we're all typing away while the boss ain't looking, rather than taking inventory on the paperclips or downloading that spreadsheet.

Professor Coldheart said...

Hey, guess what my job is. It's not "commenting on blogs." QED.

Professor Coldheart said...

In fact, if there's any regular on these threads who's actually doing work by posting here, it's our old friend Coach Outlet. REBUT THAT, SIRRAH.

Enron said...

I don't get it. Aren't the people Matty Ice shills for idle anyways?

almostinfamous said...

"THE WORK EXPANDS TO FILL THE TIME"

wasn't that one of the 10 commandments?

demize! said...

No they're the assholes who "multitask" and exercise before going to work. Boundless fucking energy...

ajay said...

Yeah, that argument makes sense because there's no way unemployed people are impoverished.

TGGP said...

Yes, unemployed people really are more unhappy, even if they are on the dole. Perhaps they would be happier doing non-wage labor, but as far as I know the recession has not brought a surge in communal participation (other than protesting in front of the parliament that you don't have a job and don't want austerity).

Pliny said...

We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.

-- R Buckminster Fuller