Fellow blurgher Montag gazes into the middle distance, a few reluctant tears welling into his eyes, because the Occupy Wall Streeters appear to be generally fumbling their way toward some crackpot collegiate model of participatory self-government, having, in other words, a This-Is-What-Democracy-Looks-Like moment. Probably worth more a rueful giggle than a manly, reluctant cry, but I am sympathetic. A lot of fine radical sentiment gets bogged down in the Organizing-Group mentality, and a lot of protestivists erroneously view the current state of representative government as debased and corrupt rather than as an apotheoisis.
However I see no reason to be too concerned. Occupy Wall Street is no revolution, and we are in no danger of replacing democracy with democracy. The protests are symptomatic of something else; they do signify change, even though they are neither the cause nor the ultimate result of it. These sorts of things are like melting glaciers and long tomato seasons: phenomenal indicators of a self-catlyizing reaction across a whole vast and complex system of systems.
If that sounds optimistic to you, or somehow out of keeping with the habitually noncomittal sentiments of this doggler, rest assured that I'm not making the positivist error; I am no progressive; change and flux do not operate in the service of some universal movement in the direction of materialist human betterment as conceived and propogated by the present-obsessed prognosticators of the current moment. It's a mistake to ascribe moral precepts to evolutionary processes. The crises of democracy are in turn mere side effects, minor mutations. But I am, by the way, serious about the evolutionary metaphor, which is cautionary as well. Speciation is not something that either the prior or latter species self-observes.
Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Homo Playpens
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It's like Lenin said.
they're like a tumor, really, and will be excised accordingly. that said, it sure is fun to take potshots at the columella.
I am not sure exactly what you meant saying "the crises of democracy are in turn mere side effects". They are not side effects; they are effects. Political "progress" is entropy. Democracy (and the left more generally, exemplified by Montag), are opposed to all order (aka inequality); Montag even bemoans culture. And so the left destroys order whenever it can.
If a functioning society is a machine, democracy has only a screwdriver (the old saw applies), and the left is a gremlin chanting "leftly loosely". Eventually the machine is degraded far enough another piece breaks off. That's a crisis, and it's a direct effect, not side effect, of the gremlin's actions, even if the exact timing of it is uncertain. The gremlin will tell you with great confidence that the solution to the loss of yet another functioning subsystem is that we must redouble our efforts with the screwdriver. For as Montag says: only in death are we truly equal.
(It is always bracing to read a left-anarchist like Montag and see how far out he is. Makes me seem like a practical man.)
don't go by me. a sufficiently sentimental television commercial will make me cry.
i liked #OWS better when they, (one of them anyway,) was all, "demand nothing. offer alternatives instead."
lefty loosey!
yeah. that's a great plan, Walter. that's fucking ingenious, if I understand it correctly. that's a Swiss fucking watch.
you've gotta have some play in the system Leonard, or else you might resonate right into pieces! that said, where will your rocket ship take you? and how soon can you go?
Fuzzy wuzzy wasn't a bear?!
The solution is dissolution. ;-)
i'm an introvert, my revolution is of mind only. if i bemoan culture it's probably just because culture demands constant fucking human interaction.
And woodchucks can't chuck for shit.
I wonder if I was happier before I grew a conscience, like a boil. That wonder, which is a replacement for observation, has the shelf life of astatine.
I think we are happier without morals or the need to sanctify our choices as democracy, demarchy, justice, progress - et cetera.
The trick is to do happiness (because, really, fuck being and the idea it rode in on) without forgetting that everyone else is also mortal and mostly sick of suffering.
Speciation is not something that either the prior or latter species self-observes.
Unless you have cancer.
Mr. Fun, there's plenty of play in a scrap-heap. There's almost none in my Honda. There're almost no moving parts in my iPhone.
My rocket ship is sadly imaginary, so it's not going anywhere. The hoped for destination: liberty, aka people living their own fucking lives. The path: stable order thus peace thus law thus liberty. Democracy may inherit order (and thus the things that build on stability), but it always degrades and ultimately destroys it.
Ah Lenny, from Heidegger's lips. I guess you're taking up the mantle of 'philosopher of the reich'?
All the Occupy movement needs is a leader, and I nominate Tom Laughlin. Heck, everything the Freedom School kids in "The Trial of Billy Jack" discovered about The System turned out to be true anyway. And "leader" itself is transactional for morbid egalitarians, as history has shown. Everyone really is of equal voice and value, but a few know karate or are really good with a gun.
One tin soldier rides away, Inky ;)
I dunno, I like the "direct democracy"/leaderless approach that has dominated far-left activism for the past few decades, and consider it a good sign. Anarchists may use the word democracy in this context, but I think it's more an attempt to co-opt the word, to change its meaning, by emphasizing the "self-rule" part, which anarchists who endorse direct democracy take to mean "no government at all," or at least a way for a society to make some collective decisions without imposing a power hierarchy. I also like that the occupiers aren't voting on delegates to represent them in negotiations with officials, and have chosen consensus-based decision-making over majority rule.
But how can consensus-based decisionmaking allow the Galts of the world, like Leonard, to impose their manly will upon the peons? Heretic! anonymous 12:16.
Actually, I believe that Leonard is not really an Objectivist but a Royalist. he, of course, would be of royal blood. Leonard, no rocket ship is needed. May I suggest Saudi Arabia-a very orderly place.
Brian - actually I think Lenny would be the bootlicker.
Maybe not, lucid. Lenny would be disturbed by the genetically inferior Arab blood of the Saudi royal family, so he would have to be in charge to keep the wogs in line. And to battle entropy, of course. What a heroic battle our reactionary anarchits are engaged in! Battling entropy itself.
Every so often Ioz writes a post like this that reveals something of a world view. I have to say I agree entirely with the analysis. Much of what we believe is causal is symptomatic.
I agree with your deterministic fatalism, and no shortage of historical analagoues will back you up, few of which I would quibble with but at the margins. But what the hell, just for arguments sake try to be optimistic. Come to think of it, you are one, you just don't put it into this stuff. When you write about your brand of optimism it seems to go over people's heads.
One of the creepy vibes of the OWS thing is that it is somewhat out of time, it is taking up the aesthetics of the kind of protest associated with how things are supposed to be done in a modern, liberal, wealthy democracy. The police beating and disrupting these protests is supposed to be a threat to the way these things are, no, they are not a threat. (And I love that Bloomberg gave permission to their presence, the subtext being that there gathering is a luxury the police could take away if they really wanted to, in other words, if the protests were seen as a real threat that had to be dealt with.) They are evidence of how things are, now how we think they are. People will wake up to the reality of our form of corporate fascism and colonialization in their own time, I suppose.
"Prior or latter" doesn't sound quite right. Anterior or posterior, maybe? Antecedent or descendant?
"Speciation is not something that either the prior or latter species self-observes."
True in the sense that you mean "self-observation" - conscious reflection by self of self.
But in terms of unconscious automata-theoretic feedback loops that change behavior of the phenotypes?
Not so sure ... it is good here to recall the comment (of von Neumann's, I believe) that "consciousness" may simply be a matter of enough feedback loops.
Hey Justin -
When I took over my building in '70-'71, the Facilities Mgr for the campus climbed thru one of the ground-floor windows to talk to me. He pointed out that they could take the doors off the building anytime they wanted, even though we had chained them, but they were just letting it play out to keep the peace ...
A few days later, the University got a Federal injunction against me and the 100-odd other students in the building - this was the first time a college/university had resorted to Federal injunction (with the attendant possibility of a felony charge) instead of just letting the cops come in and arrest everyone on misdemeanor/trespass charges.
So the Facilities Mgr was not so much playing it out to keep the peace as playing for time to give the lawyers a chance ...
In the same way, should Bloomie decide that OWS is seriously endangering anything, he will come down with a heavier hand than anyone has anticipated ...
In the same way, should Bloomie decide that OWS is seriously endangering anything, he will come down with a heavier hand than anyone has anticipated ...
Which could have the effect of creating further fractures in the cocoon from which a new entity emerges.
Generally speaking, I'm not one for biologistic metaphors, seeing as how the chief one [Aristotle's theory of the 4 causes] results in the the lie of progressive history that is the dialectic. Or perhaps it is the playing of a final cause off of Kant's notion of 'purposiveness' that results in this horrible misreading of reality... who knows, suffice it to say I stay away.
However, I do find the notion of history as speciation an interesting one. It's fits well with my general view of the universe.
"Which could have the effect of creating further fractures in the cocoon from which a new entity emerges."
Your comment here points up an interesting difference between the students of the VietEra and the OWS students/grads. In the late 60's/early 70's, the first OPEC crisis hadn't yet hit, and things still looked rosy for the country economically - so students had to decide if they really wanted to give up their slice of the pie in order to become committed radicals.
Now - not so much - the OWS kids know there is no slice of the pie left for them, not even morsels.
So they've got nothing to lose and for that reason, something more may come of a move to quell them by the E-ment.
On the other hand, this hypothesis cuts against prevailing wisdom that revolutions never happen UNTIL there is hope.
In which case, the OWS folks will find that they're sadly premature - kind of like the pre-1917 anarchists and nihilists in Mother Russia.
They were sent to Siberia, just as these kids will be - metaphorically.
this hypothesis cuts against prevailing wisdom that revolutions never happen UNTIL there is hope
I'd never heard of this, but I am neither prevalent nor wise.
I say shit in one hand and hope in the other, see what fills up faster. Fuck hope.
Justin - the claim is typically based on the French Revolution - by the time the mob hit the streets, the relatively new middle-class had started to get quite restive under the monarchy, and the times, they were a-changing.
Before then, the Cardinal and/or the King would simply have directed the Man from Miens and/or Athos to cut down any "revolutionaries" where they sood ...
I'm hoping it fails simply because I don't want that douche from Adbusters to get any more insufferable than he has been all along.
Eerily Lack: does that mean there has to be hope? Or does that mean the proles fight the revolutions that the bourgeoisie start (which I have heard before, and which history seems to bear out)?
EL - I'm of the opinion that there hasn't been a revolution in human history. Sure there have been major reorganizations of the social order, but all to the same end - to reiterate the power of the rulers. Now, some might claim our current hierarchy more humane than past ones, but I, and I believe most of those trolling around Herr's blog would beg to differ.
What I do like about these kids - is that from the get go, they've insisted on being non-hierarchical. Now, given that they've come out with a tract, does it mean their becoming hierarchical? I don't know. However, there isn't a revolution unless it is radically egalitarian. Anything else is mimesis - in a Platonic sense.
Lucid,
Perhaps separating revolution from the political consequences of revolutionary disorder and the inevitable reaction is in order.
Anabaptism was fundamentally revolutionary - and it had political, social, religious and moral consequences still being felt today, despite the relative rarity of actual modern anabaptists.
The political failure of the Munster rebellion, and the Anabaptist program, shouldn't be confused with its revolutionary impact, all the same.
If there is historical speciation, it's quite unlike the biological referent. The old social forms are never replaced, only displaced and/or added upon.
...oh wait.
I favor a Tobin tax.
In the broad sense of the term, a more general financial transaction tax.
Professor Coldheart -
I think the two commonplaces we cited are related to one another as solids related by the principle of duality in projective geometry, e.g. the cube has six faces and eight vertices while the octahedron has eight faces and six vertices ... it's not that either one of our commonplaces is subsidiary to the other in the sense of being a corollary, but rather that both are different concretizations of the same abstraction ...
... that being said, I have to confess that I myself am not sure whether I should have been talking about "revolutions of rising expectations" instead of "hope-inspired" revolutions ...
lucid -
An interesting example of your claim is the true story about how young New Left radical women were so ticked at the WeatherMEN of the 60's/70's, because the latter simply thought that the former should make the sandwiches as a matter of course ... at the time I dismissed such young women as merely whiny, but I have to say I now see they were making a very serious point ...
... also, I have to compliment you on your nice use of the "shadows on the cave" allegory ... particularly because Plato wanted us to distrust the claims of artists in the same way as you would like us to to distrust the claims of "revolutionaries" ...
... however ... I have to conclude by confessing that Robert Hale Merriman will always be the person I would like to have been in history ...
Gotta say, neither A nor B, women the world over thank dudes like you for your generosity; they bristle under their oppression and, decades later, you concede "a point." T'riffic.
to anon@1:05 -
Fair enough..
Although I do have to tell you - I am still of the opinion that the orchard of the civil rights movement would have provided more ample fruit for blacks if feminists had waited their turn a little longer (and similarly, if US Jews had not gotten all "let my people go-ish" over Soviet refuseniks.)
As it was, energy was distracted from unfinished business.
PS ... in deference to our host, I am of course not casting similar aspersions on the Stonewall rioters ...
EL - every 'movement' would be 'better', if someone, something, something.
You are exactly right.
The problem is that it is a 'movement' - its primary means of self-awareness is that it propels itself forward into a 'better' world. If there is a 'better' world, there are degrees of equality - in our world, we are 'more equal' than in previous ones... because we're better... or vice versa, suck me off.
And this is precisely why all of the egalitarian movements, and their proponents, while inspiring, leave me empty...
None of them have lived up to their billing
Our world still fundamentally believes that our existence is somehow the greatest expression the universe can achieve. That the insipid way in which our species has continued to organize itself is the mirror of that conceit is the scripted travesty of our lives...
"That the insipid way in which our species has continued to organize itself is the mirror of that conceit is the scripted travesty of our lives..."
Whoa - you're givin our host some serious competition there, fella - both stylistically and thematically.
Nice on both counts.
you're givin our host some serious competition there
naw... a mere psycho-phant.
I'm a progressive.
No, no, lucid - don't poor-mouth.
"scripted travesty" is right up there with "enmeshed periphery", and the latter is one of my personal best ...
Mr Gallo, have you noticed your body going through some changes lately?
revolution in modern america is a terrible idea to behold. the degree of violence we would see should anything like that ever materialize is more than enough to render the whole notion idiotic, especially considering that revolutions are fought primarily to establish a new ownership class.
anyone who spins yarns about revolution, creating moralist fantasy out of violent civil conflict, in today's age is a fool in my book. don't revolt, ignore!
Still have no idea what the hell you people are saying.
Neither A nor B, you do acknowledge the existence of black women, right?
Also, a hearty LOL in response to your implication that "blacks" and women have attained their liberation. O, LOL LOL LOL.
anon@4:37
Strongly suggest you stop trying to teach Grandma to suck eggs.
Instead, consider the relevant Cartesian product here:
{(blacks,women),(blacks,USJews),(blacks,gays)}
The correct answer is "I don't like darkies."
How many double comments, or blows to the head, does that get me?
As I suspected, anon@1:08 .... you disintegrate on touch ...
And something something makes neither A nor B a dull boy. Do try to keep up, duckie.
That the insipid way in which our species has continued to organize itself is the mirror of that conceit is the scripted travesty of our lives...
"our" and "our"
Between facepalm and a strong urge to refresh my acquintance with heavy drinking.
You know what?! Fuck you and the fucking horse you fucking rode on!
Capt'n Obvious
hey Cap - dontcha know it's always better to light a fart than curse the stomach cramp?
So we won't be seeing you dahntahn Saturday?
@Eerily Lackadaisical: fuck off and don't tell me what my "turn" is, or that my rights are a "distraction." Energy was "distracted" by misogynist leftists who thought fighting for black men was exclusive of, and more important than, fighting for all women. If they'd shut the fuck up and stopped their pointless dick-waving, the feminist movement would have born better fruit for women.
anon@12:09
Is that a dagger you see before you, perchance?
In any event, we're both making lucid's point for him/her, except that I'm doing so knowingly and you're doing so unknowingly, apparently.
"On the other hand, this hypothesis cuts against prevailing wisdom that revolutions never happen UNTIL there is hope."
the way that I heard it is also that revolutions happen when hope is removed.
beautiful
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