I have a slightly nutty aunt who is absolutely obsessed with British aristocrat hoohaw; she knows all the goings-on in the royal family and the difference between a baronette and a duchess and a valet and a lady-in-waiting; she reads Hello! and Harry Potter with equal fervency, and she finds it impossible to imagine that some of us don't actually care which peer of the realm is dressing up like Hitler and getting his naughty bum spanked by a prostitute, or whatever weird fancy dress-cum-light S&M it is that our island cousins do to get their rocks off . . . indeed, I suspect she thinks we're slight nuts when she starts talking about Harry and we're all trying to figure out if she means Harry who went to Alderdice or Harry from the William Penn Tavern whereas all along she meant the younger prince of England. Anyway, I am reminded of her every time I read one of these relentlessly dull whence-goes-Democracy-now jobs. I guess the servants always squinted their eyes and tried to read the inscrutable lines of succession, but the whole thing feels like a bad evening on PBS, which I suppose, in a certain way, it is.
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I just recently quit a job at Arbys. felt good man.
Enough with frivolous matters. We needs must speak of deeper concerns. An anonymouse on a recent thread referred to IOZ's "tormented personal recesses."
IOZ: do you possess same? This interests me. Assuming you do (the anonymouse spoke with seeming certainty), I request your typically penetrating analysis.
In an effort, obviously, to get to the bottom of it.
Now, don't everyone pile on at once. Form a line like the polite people you are, and take turns. I understand that is the preferred behavior here.
Isn't this how God intended us to spend Sunday afternoons? I believe it must be. (After all, football, as but one example.)
I should think my position on tormenting personal recesses is clear. I am strictly a top.
Her life was in your hands!
CXIV
Or whether doth my mind, being crown'd with you,
Drink up the monarch's plague, this flattery?
Or whether shall I say, mine eye saith true,
And that your love taught it this alchemy,
To make of monsters and things indigest
Such cherubins as your sweet self resemble,
Creating every bad a perfect best,
As fast as objects to his beams assemble?
O, tis the first; 'tis flattery in my seeing.
And my great mind most kingly drinks it up
Mine eye well knows what with his gust is 'greeing,
and to his palate doth prepare the cup:
If it be poison'd, 'tis the lesser sin
That mine eye loves it and doth first begin.
and I never seen no Queen in her damn undies, neither.
from the intro paragraph of linked article: "Will the presidential election reflect the will of the people? Will it be seen as doing so—and if not, what happens?"
from the concluding paragraph of linked article: "Can an election that’s being subjected to such seriously self-interested contortions be accepted by the public as having been arrived at in a fair manner? And what will happen if it can’t?"
Golly, some questions are so difficult. They shoulda aksed a SuperPAC.
(Whoops, didn't mean to be so bold.)
What does any of that have to do with Arby's? Now you've gone and made me hungry.
So government is the modern day religion, that opiate of the masses. What does that make those who look forward to nation states collapsing and ushering in glorious non-hierarchical societies? Some analogue of reconstructionist postmillennialist?
Neopaleoanabaptists, Stephanie.
Why is it, M'sieur, that when you speak of your slightly nutty aunt, I think of Tony Perkins in the original Psycho?
Did you know the name "Arby's" is derived from "R.B.", the initials for "Raffel Brothers" (the founders) which is coincidentally also the initials for "Roast Beef"? And that their current corporate slogan is "It's Good Mood Food"?
What, Lizzie? No recite to Bush v. Gore in a faux expression of concern about electoral superbowl? And here it's only been a decade.
Well, if something should go wrong in 2012, a new mandate in 2016 will either remedy or ratify it.
Sachaparis, please to more fun of British make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-LgLk_PkI
Stephanie G: deluded Quakers? But I don't think the left in general expects societal collapse, because it is the left's institutions that are driving us in that direction. Rather it is the right who look forward to the liberal post-nation state collapsing, with a reversion back to the nation-state.
Leonard G is looking so forward to the return of a STRONG nation state, with the elites (who conincidentally look exactly like Leonard and his ilk) in charge, inferior darkies returned to their places, the borders PROTECTED, PROTECTED, I TELL YOU, and the populace united in glorious, Christian unified song!
There isn’t all that much difference between republicans, democrats or pwogs if you prefer, and libertarians. They all believe that the answer lies in government to some degree or other. For myself I dislike patriots in whatever diseased form they may take. It seems to me that the divisions between these slightly varied groups is proof that the government has been quite successful in its divide and conquer tactics. In the end what you got is the top one percent and then you got the rest. The top one percent is laughing at all the bickering fools, laughing, laughing, all the way to the bank. There are millions of suckers born every minute and one percent to take them.
The existing institutions - the actual ones, not those which populate perfervid and imaginary conservatarian wastelands - are capitalist.
"Will we have a democratic election this year? Will the presidential election reflect the will of the people?"
Was this not made clear when it turned out Ron Paul was the only major party candidate who was anti-war?
And even he's not really anti-war; he just wants to send the power to make war back to the states.
Anyway, I enjoy the names of these superPACs. Gingrich's is "Winning The Future" which confuses me because I thought that was Obama's neologism. Romney's is "Renovating The Future" which sort of suggests taking a time machine to build habitat for humanity homes on the moon. It might make a good name for an indie band.
Speaking of tormented recesses, the moral of the Mosley story is to not let your German dominatrix count in German while she spanks you, lest the press somehow link this to your famously Nazi parents.
Harry going to a party dressed (very well, one must say - but then they are Hugo Boss) as an SS gruppenfuhrer was just too perfect. Über alles Happsburg.
Brian M, you are projecting. But at least you know I am G.
G,
I thought the God-Save-Her's blood was Hohenzollern (like in Kaiser Wilhelm of the 2nd Reich Hohenzollern).
Not the crud flowing through them idolatrous papist-boot lickers' veins.
I suppossssssssse........
Brian, where does this interpretation of Leonard come from? This one missed it.
Leonard, the "nation-state" is just an earlier version of Empire, except with lower-quality cookies in the break room. Are you heralding that as better?
High Arka...partially from multiple mouthings about the inferior negro races in Leonard's various missives. Although I must admit his passion for Ein Reich is a surprisingly new turn for our resident Charles Murray love slave!
Leonard, the heyday of the nation state seems a pretty short time period on historical scale. I highly doubt it represents the future.
Arka, you can search the archives and find me laying plenty of crimethink down on the plusgoodthinkers here. Science versus faith stuff. Search for the normal items of modern crimestop: "race", "IQ", etc. Indeed, I even said the awful "n-word", "negro", as Brian M accuses with spittle flying. (I still have not discovered the man's zipcode.)
Earlier I was not opining on whether the nation-state is better than the postnation-state. I was simply stating an opinion that that is what many rightists want. I do believe I have a lot more insight into the right than the average proggie here does; I don't fear them or hate them, just for a start. But since you ask, I do believe that the old nation states were better in many ways than the modern regime. But in any case they aren't coming back, so the point is rather moot.
How's about the whole thing being and having been about classes warring?
Y'know, for kids?
Leonard, this one will argue separately with you about that sometime, if you like. Did review the provided link--didn't see anything about the United Negro College Fund there, and not sure what, exactly, set off Brian M. Brian, is it the recognition that an illusory community of distinct people have separate identities and are viewed as such? Where is the sin?
All the commentary here, or Floyd, or Silber (would he allow it) or similar seems to be endlessly swirling around the concept "We're screwed; let's complain about it." Which does indeed have some value. Yet, is there the nexus of a change here? This one is more than willing to spearhead a new party. Tribalism aside, a community of shared values is not guaranteed wrong. All this one demands is slavish obedience, and the truth shall set you free.
"We're screwed; let's complain about it."
Or let's post, hmmm...pictures of armed mercs, a helmeted skull, a fat guy kissing a cross, a medieval crucifixion scene, prisoners at Guantanamo, dead children, American flag draped coffins, more dead children with bullet holes in their heads, a portrait of a war criminal,...
And Tupac. Oh yeah, "Fuck all y'all"
Note the "which does again have some value." Complaining about it is good. There might, though, be more fun for all beyond complaining.
The things you are mocking, incidentally, are things that you may find of value in reaching those who don't already agree with you. Have the courage to help your lesser-aware sisters and brothers come to see some of the things that most people reading IOZ already know. Even if they scorn you at first.
There is a certain level of elitism among the IOZ/Silber/Floyd crowd that, while deserved (as much so as the Jon Stewart audience "knowing" more than the Hannity & Colmes audience), serves only to separate them in dialogue and action from their fellow humans who are not quite as intelligent. Or, alternatively, who may have different life experiences and pressures that don't allow them the time or freedom to follow certain avenues of learning and inquiry.
We are our sisters' keepers. The clannishness developing here risks evolving into the same deadly morass that has ensnared most everyone else. Reach back into the tar pit, baby. You might be a little closer to the edge, but you're sinking anyway. It's going to take one hell of a human chain to have any chance of getting out.
Lastly, 2Pac pwns you.
I always like hanging out with benevolently nutty aunts with bizarre fixations. We have a lot in common.
"Now let me tell you about Rick Perry's electoral chances and why he is such a creep, Auntie."
@ High Arka
Don't sweat it. Everything's under control.
Arka, you fucking asshole. I could be sitting here with just some piss stains on my rug.
downton not downtown.
aren't you gay? You should get this shit right.
Understand fail, anon. Please to enlighten.
Oh dear, its QueenEl Lizard Birth
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