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Friday, January 20, 2012

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Uh-oh it looks like the government can shut down the internets whenever it wants without the Pippa Middleton act or whatever . . . Hm I wonder what this says about the actual power of the state vs the import of any specific and formal piece of legislation.

90 comments:

Houdini said...: The article states that the Feds will use private emails of the defendants to make their case. How do they obtain these emails? Wat does private mean?; 7:08 AM
IOZ said...: THERE OUGHTA BE A LAW!; 7:22 AM
Anonymous said...: i outta wash yer mouf out with SOPA...; 7:48 AM
PR said...: OR AT LEAST ANOTHER REGULATION!!!1!!; 7:55 AM
Freddie said...: Or, you know, if Google just decided to start wrecking shit on the Internet.

The "free flow of information online" ship sailed long long ago.; 7:57 AM
Montag said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 8:21 AM
Montag said...: http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2hjygSn41qdri94o1_500.jpg; 8:22 AM
Justin said...: I am not commenting on anything posted today in protest of SOPA and PIPA. Its time to let my voice be heard.; 8:23 AM
Montag said...: this is not 'nam. this is the internet. there are rules.; 8:35 AM
mistah charley, ph.d. said...: LEARN TO TRIM YOUR SAIL, NOT CURSE THE WIND

Yesterday I was ordering a couple of books from Amazon. One has to do with my recent resolve that missus charley and myself are going to adopt a predominantly plant-based nutrition program. The other is a book by a Protestant minister about "centering prayer".

Once again, I found myself facing one of life's persistent questions: should I let the order stand at these two books, and pay shipping charges because they don't quite total to $25, or buy something else which brings the total above $25 and allows FREE SUPER-SAVER SHIPPING, in such a way that I obtain three books for less than the price of two, when shipping costs are included?

I chose the latter. In looking for inexpensive add-ons in a situation like this, I've started searching on "Dover" - recently, for example, I got How to Eat a Poem: A Smorgasbord of Tasty and Delicious Poems for Young Readers, which I was very pleased with. This time, what caught my eye was Epictetus's Enchiridion. In his review, Oakshaman of Algona, Wisconsin (one of Amazon's Top 1000 Reviewers) says:

It is amazing how much more one gets from the Enchiridion when it is reread in later life. In youth, it is too easy to rush through without digesting the deeper meaning (and thereby escaping much pain and wasted effort). Here in this slim volume is the core of Epictetus' immortal teachings; his Discourses may expand upon them, but all the essentials are outlined here.

Some people dismiss these teachings as pessimistic. After all, the central message here is to learn to differentiate between what you can change and what you cannot. Most modernists will instead tell you to dream big and never say die. Then again, such critics existed in Epictetus' own day, for we are told that you can either be a philosopher or a procurator, but you cannot truly be both.

Personally, I see nothing defeatist in the philosophy expressed here. At its deepest level we are being told that the ultimate goal is to make our will and God's will as one. You see, in spite of the admonition in the Publisher's Note that the God of the Philosophers and the God of Judeo-Christian theology are two unrelated things, the truth is that they both touch upon the pre-existing ultimate reality of the Divine One in their own ways. The Stoic desire to conform to Nature is the perennial spiritual ideal to unite with the One and the Good. Far from being a defeat, this is the highest possible victory in life for Christian and/or Philosopher.

This excellent, unabridged little Dover volume is probably the one that Epictetus would recommend.

[end of Oakshaman's review of the Enchiridion - emphasis added, punctuation slightly edited - the title for Oakshaman's review is what I have put at the top of this comment]; 8:47 AM
Leonard said...: IOZ, you DONT UNDERSTAND. They were threatening to SHUT DOWN WIKIPEDIA. You don't want them to SHUT DOWN WIKIPEDIA, do you?

-Leonard Dotcom; 9:21 AM
Leonard said...: Charley (PhD): You PhDs have to read a book to figure out how to pray? I'm not a religious man, but I had thought it was easier than that.; 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...: "This law is bad."
"Well, what are you gonna do about it? You are powerless to do anything about it, so nyah!"
"People have fought and changed bad laws in the past."
"Give me one example of that!"
"I can give you many, many examples of that."
"Well, the State can do this even without this law!"
"People can fight that, too."
"Lebowski quote! Lebowski quote! LULZ!"; 9:32 AM
redscott said...: My name is Pippi Longstocking, and I love my funny name.; 9:33 AM
mistah charley, ph.d. said...: Leonard, there are a number of ways to pray. Sometimes the devil (or the divinity) is in the details - as Twain pointed out, the difference between the lightning and the lightning bug. More specifically and at the most general level, "centering prayer" is about shutting up and listening, rather than telling God what you want. Wikipedia's article is good. The book I ordered yesterday is by J. David Muyskens.; 9:39 AM
Mr.Fundamental said...: Conan, what is best in life; 9:50 AM
James N. said...: Filing a criminal indictment against "pirates" isn't the same as massively curtailing fair use of copyright material. One would think that this indictment tends to show that laws like SOPA etc. are over-broad.

None of this is to say that there aren't issues that are more important. Nor that certain large companies with a disturbing amount of power benefit from the status quo.

But I benefit from the status quo too. And while absolutely nothing anyone says or does will affect the Endless War on Everything, there's a chance that Mammoth Evil Corporation #1 will defeat Mammoth Evil Corporation #2 in a way that makes my life marginally more pleasant.

If this is absurd, it is no more absurd than trying to eke out a pleasant, kinda-moral day-to-day living in the middle of a slow-motion apocalypse, which appears to be the IOZ ethos.; 9:54 AM
Leonard said...: "Well, the State can do this even without this law!"
"People can fight that, too."

Sure, they can. But they don't. Oh, I am sure you have at least 10 examples. PIPA! SOPA! Hurrah! Maybe even 12! But on the other hand, we used to have the Constitution. Now we have an unlimited government. Democracy worshippers like you did not fight the FDR coup then, and you don't fight it now. You need the unlimited state for your progressive government. So, the fact that you are occasionally willing to oppose USG doesn't mean anything. You are not willing to oppose it where it matters, namely, on the fundamentals: is it a limited or unlimited government? Does the Constitution mean what it says or is it a dead letter? In this, you are pro-USG just like everyone else.; 9:57 AM
Montag said...: power does what power does. by making a law the powerful only add a veneer of legitimacy to their actions. the magic of legitimacy only works on those who have faith in the rule of law,
(most people, it seems!) if you don't believe that it's right to confer lawful legitimacy on a particular use of power, then as Jack Crow said yesterday, figure out a workaround. exercise your own power. trying to change the law or prevent the law, whether or not 'the people' have the power to do so, seems pointless.; 10:07 AM
Justin said...: "People have fought and changed bad laws in the past."

People fight and change bad laws by violating them, repeatedly and en masse. This challenges the credibility of the state's authority. The state is then put into the position of having to spend resources enforcing the law or changing it to maintain its credibility.

Some people do not agree that this is how it works, and that is what lies behind all the 'you must be some kind of monster not to oppose SOPA!' sentimonies.; 10:17 AM
Professor Coldheart said...: "Well, the State can do this even without this law!"
"People can fight that, too."

So you're advocating the violent overthrow of the elected legislature? No wonder you're anonymous!; 10:20 AM
Mr.Fundamental said...: and some people go a step beyond Justin and say, just look at these fine, fine, fine concessions power made to little ole me. NOT! lulz. same as it ever was, plus ca cheeeyaing, mofos.

we're just here to point out how continuously and continually fucked we all are. capice? but yes go vote or picket or something. we'll be in the back snickering, smoking the good weed, pointing out indeed how silly you were for raising your hand.; 10:33 AM
Gabe Ruth said...: Leonard, you really don't understand alot of things.

Justin, nice portmanteau!

I submit unto yinz that if you prattle on about shit as we tend to do here, you have no grounds to be deriding some other people's sense of legitimacy without giving up on a universe that is complete and consistent unto and within itself.; 10:42 AM
Jack Crow said...: I think the fundamental issue, here, is the idea of legitimacy. And since that word is inseparable from law, which root forms its primary meaning, it's not too surprising that those who believe in it tend to believe in the efficacy of law.

Typing only for myself, not seeing any choice as either legitimate or illegitimate, I've found it easier to see all the force which is too often masqueraded by law.; 10:59 AM
Professor Coldheart said...: When I was your age they would say we can become cops, or criminals. Today, what I'm saying to you is this: when you're facing a loaded gun, what's the difference?; 11:05 AM
Sorry said...: Four of the seven people, including the site’s founder, Kim Dotcom (born Kim Schmitz), were arrested Friday in New Zealand; the three others remain at large. Each of the seven people — who the indictment said were members of a criminal group it called Mega Conspiracy — is charged with five counts of copyright infringement and conspiracy. The charges could result in more than 20 years in prison.

MEGA CONSPIRACY!; 11:18 AM
Montag said...: Gabe, you're right. all of our earthly prattle: tis but opinion. my opinion, (typing only for myself,) is not that other people's sense of legitimacy is worthy of derision, but that legitimacy itself is FAKE.; 11:20 AM
High Arka said...: SOPA is actually on our side. If people are forced to return to paying full price for derivative Hollywood trash and mp3s of the latest high school girl whining about relationships, they might turn off the new $90 million rewrite of I Love Lucy and choose alternative forms of entertainment. At which point original scriptwriting will become illegal. But there'll at least be a few good years in there. Go SOPA!; 11:26 AM
PR said...: @Montag; I don't think opinions are FAKE. The problem is, as I see it, that they are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.; 11:28 AM
The Promiscuous Reader said...: Well, PR, that's your opinion.; 11:39 AM
Anonymous said...: See? Obsessive.; 11:50 AM
Professor Coldheart said...: In other news, Etta James, incensed at the notion that a President who has carried water for every bank in Manhattan can take the stage at the Apollo and pretend to be soulful, said "Fuck this shit; I'm out" early this morning. She was 73.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_i-AI61PEo; 11:52 AM
Picador said...: Justin:

Some people do not agree that this is how it works, and that is what lies behind all the 'you must be some kind of monster not to oppose SOPA!' sentimonies.

I think this is unfair. The anti-SOPA crowd wasn't calling anyone a monster. It was IOZ who was equating us with Democrat-Republican groupies because we're worried about freedom of information when KIDS ARE BEING KILLED!!!1! So I think there might be some projection going on here in your comment.

As for the core issue: news sources tell me today that it looks like SOPA has been beaten back (in its current form, for the time being).

Is this important?

Well, yes. There were two moneyed factions aligned on the two sides of this issue. One of those sides happened to be better for the freedom of actual human persons. There is convincing evidence that grass-roots activism by actual human persons played a significant role in tipping the scales in this particular clash of the titans.

When people oppose bad laws, and those bad laws are taken off the books, it is a victory for the people. Even if the law as a whole continues to be, overall, pretty bad. Even if the bad law was also opposed by some corporate people as well as by human people.; 12:01 PM
President Gas said...: Pot should be legal and shit!

[Meanwhile, we see thieves tiptoeing out of the back of the house.]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/business/public-domain-works-can-be-copyrighted-anew-justices-rule.html; 12:19 PM
Justin said...: Picador, I don't think its unfair. Read some of the last couple of threads, people are telling IOZ straight up that he is just a cynical, selfish asshole who is willfully obtuse to rationalize doing nothing but pointing and laughing. That is all I meant.

Everything you say could be true, but if you also tend to agree with my previous comment, then everything you just said could be true and mostly beside the point.

In any case, we (the royal we) tend to put a lot more stock into the value of what we think and write about than is warranted. IOZ is alluding to this with CONscience. I am taking the title of this post to go another way, which is to say that if the government or corporations wanted to shut down cheap seat heckler sites like this one and elsewhere in the blogosphere where people vent, they would do so with or without PIPA or SOPA. The so-called scary language in SOPA is roughly equivalent to the death panel scary language of the health care reform.; 12:19 PM
IOZ's brain said...: Maybe I'll post another picture; 12:19 PM
IOZ's brain said...: That'll show em; 12:20 PM
NutellaonToast said...: What this city needs is a better class of contrarian.; 12:22 PM
Gabe Ruth said...: Wait, is the Monsieur not a cynical, selfish asshole? And do we not love him for this, as we see ourselves in him and are convicted?; 12:28 PM
Jack Crow said...: "There is convincing evidence that grass-roots activism by actual human persons played a significant role in tipping the scales in this particular clash of the titans."

Which Senators currently in favor of their own neutral position were moved by "grass roots activism," please and thank you.

And, if you would kindly endulge, Picador, what do you mean by convincing?; 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Four of the seven people, including the site’s founder, Kim Dotcom (born Kim Schmitz), were arrested Friday in New Zealand; the three others remain at large. Each of the seven people — who the indictment said were members of a criminal group it called Mega Conspiracy — is charged with five counts of copyright infringement and conspiracy. The charges could result in more than 20 years in prison.

As part of the crackdown, about 20 search warrants were executed in the United States and in eight other countries, including New Zealand. About $50 million in assets were also seized, as well as a number of servers and 18 domain names that formed Megaupload’s network of file-sharing sites.

The police arrived at Dotcom Mansion in Auckland on Friday morning in two helicopters. Mr. Dotcom, a 37-year-old with dual Finnish and German citizenship, retreated into a safe room, and the police had to cut their way in. He was eventually arrested with a firearm close by that the police said appeared to be a shortened shotgun.; 1:01 PM
Jack Crow said...: Does anyone doubt that with or without the PIPAs, SOPAs, NDAAs and currently Iranian sanctions resolutions regimes, that our earthly lords and master can act at will and with effective impunity?

(see anony @1:01pm above); 1:03 PM
Picador said...: Justin:

In any case, we (the royal we) tend to put a lot more stock into the value of what we think and write about than is warranted.

That much we can certainly agree on. (And not just the royal we.) I don't pretend that individuals can ever do more than -- at most -- exert minuscule influences this way or that when the immense, slow-moving forces of history collide with each other. That being said...

if the government or corporations wanted to shut down cheap seat heckler sites like this one and elsewhere in the blogosphere where people vent, they would do so with or without PIPA or SOPA.

Process matters. The DMCA, for example, has made a tremendous difference to freedom of information on the Internet by embedding a specific, bureaucratic mechanism for censorship into the law, and embedding it thereby into the culture. The same goes for any law that sets up structural barriers to freedom. Abortion is a prime example of how specific laws change abortion from something women have an actual right to, into something that they only have a theoretical or abstract right to, but a right which in practice they are barred from exercising due to logistical and bureaucratic hurdles.

We all want to strike that great, final blow for liberty that will shatter all of our chains at once. But sometimes all you can accomplish in a given week is getting the TSA to stop groping children's crotches. It's something that matters, and it's important to oppose it. Which, by the way, is NOT an endorsement of lesser evilism or of aligning yourself with scum like the Democrats. It is not a call for compromise or tribalism. It is an acknowledgement that principled, unwavering opposition to evil sometimes only makes gradual gains against its enemy.

Frankly, this is the same old IOZ-vs-Greenwald debate. I'm with Greenwald -- I think that making bad law into better law is worthwhile. We may have to agree to disagree.; 1:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Here's the thing ...

I agree that yes, sometimes (not, sadly, often) the actions of "the people" really do make a (small) practical difference in our political system. And this is one of those times, in a small way. So IOZ's extreme political nihilism ultimately is on rare occasions a bit over the top.

But, you know, going on about it in his comment sections is not going to you know, change his mind - or the minds of some of his fellow travelers, and, if it did, so what?

Bottom line, IOZ is fun to read, and usually right, even if he does sometimes shit himself a bit on some subjects.; 1:07 PM
Anonymous said...: god what a tedious joint this is.; 1:21 PM
Justin said...: Picador,
I don't think its an exclusive or. I find myself agreeing with you and IOZ, at least in so far as I've spelled out my understanding.

IOZ isn't a nihilist, cynic or romantic. He is a discordian.; 1:25 PM
Professor Coldheart said...: Wait, is the Monsieur not a cynical, selfish asshole? And do we not love him for this, as we see ourselves in him and are convicted?

If the inmates get a vote, this ought to replace "DOGS DON'T BLOG" in the sidebar.; 1:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh, woe is us! The mighty State controls everything and we are but helpless serfs! Since I've proven a priori that there is nothing I can do to resist this all-powerful force that makes slaves of us all, I'll just sit here on my ass drinking fancy wine and cooking expensive food while listening to fruity dead opera singers. VIVA ANARKY; 1:54 PM
IOZ's brain said...: My next picture will have a picture of a dog in it; 1:56 PM
IOZ's brain said...: Dogs mean like satire and stuff; 1:57 PM
IOZ's brain said...: The dog will have a word balloon coming out of it, and the word balloon will be quoting a Digby post; 1:59 PM
IOZ's brain said...: I'm very excited about this upcoming dog project; 2:00 PM
Anonymous said...: IOZbrain, can there be cat in this upcoming pic??? Purrrrrty please?????; 2:25 PM
IOZ's brain said...: There will not be a cat, but there may be a still from The Big Lebowski in which Walter says something about Vietnam; 3:00 PM
Joe said...: IOZ's brain is starting to remind me of a 5-year-old who makes a funny and then proceeds to tell the same joke a hundred more times assuming the hilarity will only increase with repetition.

My vote for new sidebar goes to Anon@1:54.; 4:05 PM
anne said...: , pussy footing in .. . sits uP in front of the sauce .. .; 4:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Am I allowed to think that struggle is important AND that anti-SOPA activism isn't a victory for people who think struggle is important?; 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...: So because some guys were arrested it was pointless to work to prevent the government from meddling with the DNS, forcing web sites to police commenters on behalf of MPAA/RIAA, etc.

You really just don't have a clue about this, do you?; 4:43 PM
Montag said...: you're out of your element, 4:43.; 5:06 PM
rob payne said...: Fuck yeah! Democracy works, baby! Christ, you showed ‘em, huh? Power to the people baby, massive protests shut down Pipi poo-poo so that proves we got a democracy. Democracy is a pail of crap disguised as a Hostess cupcake. All that happened was a bunch of incompetent whores wrote a typically bad piece of legislation, most of whom probably didn’t even know what was in the bill or even read it, then backed down because it really wasn’t worth the paper it was written on and elections are coming up all the while already having the power to shut the internet down if they actually thought it was a threat to their power, and a bunch of nincompoops pat themselves on the back for being “victorious”. Oh yeah, what a great fucking country this is. And the crowers got involved buy signing a petition on the internet already typed up by an ”involved” dupe and had it automatically sent via the wonder of the internet to some fat-ass in congress who’s laughing at you right now. I’m all impressed. Golly. Don’t forget Reagan brought Communist Russia down with a spare can of shoe polish left over from doing his hair.; 7:05 PM
TGGP said...: Leonard, I'd say unlimited government was in the cards after the Articles were replaced with the Constitution. You don't create an entity with all that power and expect it to listen when you say "and don't abuse it".; 7:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Foodie Friday, y'all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghGHHBO_nU
Cooking up a storm, happy weekend IOZ & Inmates!; 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...: In fairness to iozbrain, if you tell the same joke over and over but if you keep telling the joke enough it will one day become funnier than when first told. SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1; 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...: TGGP

Really? The right marks scribbled on a piece of paper would have prevented that?

Capt'n Obvious; 8:38 PM
Gridlock said...: Kim Schmitz, aka Kimble, aka Kim Dotcom, is a great man in at least 2 senses of the phrase (too much knockwurst & whatever the fuck Finns eat?). We should all hope to be arrested in our safe rooms with a sawn-off at hand.; 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...: I gather that the Dotcom crash came about because safe-room investments were inadequate.; 6:00 AM
LP Steve said...: Let's have a King maybe, before a few mindless votes.; 11:29 AM
NutellaonToast said...: IOZ's brain is only being repetitive to stay in character, man.; 12:14 PM
Enron said...: What Difference Does It Make; 3:22 PM
Anonymous said...: IOZ makes a good point: people with ethical judgment don't waste their time protesting SOPA, they spend it photoshopping pictures of dead Iraqis to show how superior they are to people who protest SOPA.; 4:14 PM
anne said...: en ron, ..that version in the tub' is too pop,too gay .. don't make me go looking for my worn tapes to listen to a finely grim take more pleasing .. i'm knitting busy .. please someone another version here .. my hands are tied .. ,; 4:47 PM
TGGP said...: Capt'n Obvious, the impotence of "scribbles on paper" is precisely my point about the defects of the Constitution.; 5:09 PM
Anonymous said...: So, it was in the cards just as soon as the colonists started aggitating for self governance, wouldn't you say?

Capt'n Obvious; 5:18 PM
anne said...: tgg pea, i've been meaning to ask ..why the balla dog walking on leash ..for your image ,? / ..i having a drawing that i did somewhere on line .. of myself ,a skirt,longer ..waking with a line threading my ankle with a similar feel..(fitting also for my saying knitting above .. when i don't knit ); 5:26 PM
Ted Stein said...: Justin:

Picador, I don't think its unfair. Read some of the last couple of threads, people are telling IOZ straight up that he is just a cynical, selfish asshole who is willfully obtuse to rationalize doing nothing but pointing and laughing.

Odd argument to make given that even the people defending him agree on that.

Mr.Fundamental @ 10:33 AM:

but yes go vote or picket or something. we'll be in the back snickering, smoking the good weed, pointing out indeed how silly you were for raising your hand.; 6:13 PM
rob payne said...: Save the constiplution!; 7:08 PM
Karl Franz Ochstradt said...: Process matters. The DMCA, for example, has made a tremendous difference to freedom of information on the Internet by embedding a specific, bureaucratic mechanism for censorship into the law, and embedding it thereby into the culture.

Pwoggliciously Pwogtastic!

No, process does NOT matter -- unless you directly benefit, power- or riches-wise, from the process. Which would make the beneficiaries a very narrow segment of Americans. Lucky you to rest among them, no matter how deluded that restful perspective might be!; 9:45 AM
Anonymous said...: "IOZ's brain is starting to remind me of a 5-year-old who makes a funny and then proceeds to tell the same joke a hundred more times assuming the hilarity will only increase with repetition"

This statement works well as a description of the actual IOZ's actual brain.; 11:50 AM
RHETORICALQUESTION said...: Why do I get the feeling that all these dude-tears are falling simply because the passage of SOPA might endanger dudes' ability to look at free porn?; 9:39 PM
Aeolus said...: IOZ I'm bored wit you. I think youre all used up and should pack it in. Goodbye.; 10:19 PM
stephanie g said...: Wait...IOZ actually cares about dead Arab kids? Or was that one of those ironical metaphor things? And why do Anne's messages always read like she drinks mercury but everyone acts like everything is cool? I lost my decryption code.; 11:38 PM
High Arka said...: The DMCA is irrelevant. The concept of intellectual property, and before that, the concept of property (traced back to antilife), is the sickness of which SOPA is only a minor modern symptom.

Even within the lala-realities of this culture, though, the vast reach and duration of current international copyright law are so ludicrous that SOPA is but one flea among a host of thousands.

That said, still do swat the fucking flea. Followed by burying the festering corpse that has drawn it nigh.

stephanie, you amuse this one regarding anne, however your growing acceptance of dead Arab kids as a mere conversational ploy represents a nonchalance creeping into even those who had figured out "Obama" before he became president. Shudder.; 12:15 AM
anne said...: hello stephanie g ,for if you come back around , smaller a/A on my name of anne here , small to go with gentle stepping ,.. the pussy footing was for the suggest of a cat to go with his pup on the pg made by others , the sauce is in ioz's axis,of my first query last spring .. of wondering why it's there ..of family ,or another familiar ..of not knowing ,/ and the other two comments here above ,to teeggpea ..i was wondering why they have the giacomo balla dog walking on leash as their main image .. so i'm just asking if they happen to come back around , and of en' ,..of the smiths ,of the link / let me know if this bit of explaining makes what i've said any clearer ,/ i'm more of being like something from another planet ,somehow of .. than of drinking your suggest .. .; 1:42 PM
anne said...: hi' arka , i had a look over on your last trying to explain more of something that you wrote on the last post here , .. . you seem to like to read on the how things go of food , wondering what your thoughts are on the adding of gluten to make more palatable to.. too much ? .., i'm putting my question to you on this here for more to see ..if they have any thoughts on the way things are going with gluten .. / and of ..foods,whole chain.. your mention .. remember it's still a chain .. so best not to mention , a lot of bad behaviour there .. and best to know what you are dealing with.. in many ways , as you are going around the aisles there .. .,those with money aren't better off with this in just having money , best to know of ..what you are eating , .. .; 2:08 PM
High Arka said...: anne, gluten is a substance humans evolved eating just fine. Intolerance to it is a modern condition brought on by what this one discussed there.

You are accurate that having money doesn't make one (necessarily) better off with regard to food choices within the context of American middle caste v. upper; however, the belief that it does is an integral part of selling class war to the elites and their middle managers.; 4:45 PM
anne said...: .. . i was speaking to the over use of it in making foods more palatable .. . it has been taking some unusual bends in issues over the last while ..maybe you haven't come across this yet, ... . the over consuming of wheat gluten added to so much ..has become a problem .. it is a too much of one thing issue .. .; 4:53 PM
High Arka said...: Yes, over-utilizing a grain-based (cheap) filler product is a great way to poison large populations in generational terms that are hard to detect. Just like a little bit of hexane would be fine, in contrast to soy burger substitutes drenched in the stuff.

Reach for the rainbow. This one gave you a longer response back virtual home.; 4:58 PM
anne said...: not sure if you got what i meant of the whole f. shop chain .. . ?; 6:11 PM
High Arka said...: Abbreviation fail.; 9:55 PM
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