Thursday, January 12, 2012

Like Lenin Said

Well I am glad to find that Rob Payne, whose post has links to the original news story, had the same reaction I did to the scandal of a Marine sniper team "desecrating" the bodies of the dudes they'd just killed.    But you know, c'est normal.  Like, it is scandalous for Pvt. England to pile a bunch of naked Iraqis the one atop the other, but it is not scandalous for America to fucking occupy Iraq in the first place.  Actually, the most hilarious thing is in the NBC report that Rob links to . . . Brian Williams assures the audience that the "offensive parts" of the photo of the Marines pissing on the bodies of the dudes they've just killed have been blurred out.  He means PENIS!  There are not enough lulz on the whole internet; every kittycat who ever lived could not LOL enough.  You've got Marines pissing on corpses, but AMERICA, no penises!


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43 comments:

Anonymous said...

i always blur that shit out when i piss too. so offensive.

10:50 AM
mistah charley, ph.d. said...
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10:56 AM
Leonard said...

If you're not willing to piss on the bodies of the enemy, you probably shouldn't be at war in the first place.

Ah, but I forget; this is a modern, progressive war, in which we are killing people to help them. We don't hate the enemy! We love them, just like Jesus commanded! Enemies are just friends we haven't educated yet. Hearts and minds! -- we must make them love us, and these crazy Muslims just won't love us in spite of how much we lovingly kill them. Certainly marines pissing on the bodies of these so-called "enemies" who just killed three of their friends are not helping. Who could possibly think of such a thing? Monsters!

11:28 AM
Picador said...

Leonard, who are you arguing with? IOZ just said that it's ridiculous that pissing on bodies is a scandal, but creating bodies is not.

11:41 AM
Picador said...

Er, swap in "corpses" for "bodies" in my last comment.

11:42 AM
Leonard said...

Arguing? Me? I was affirming the point in my own way. Different spin is what.

11:44 AM
NutellaonToast said...

I think Leonard is two people rolled into one.

11:44 AM
Joe said...

They are equipped with chest rigs, grenades, body armor and some specialized gear.

...(long pause)...

Oh, right. And PENISES.

11:59 AM
Brian K said...

Leonard: I bet those marines were, if not negroes themselves, deeply influenced by negro culture! Look into it, man!

11:59 AM
Justin said...

Picador,

Actually, Ioz is pointing out that pissing on the bodies isn't that scandalous either. Allowing the penis that the piss is coming out of to be seen is what's beyond the pale.

12:11 PM
Joe said...

What is your point, Leonard? That the problem isn't the killing and maiming of innocents, but that the military isn't sufficiently cold-blooded about it?

How about: If you don't have a legitimate reason (assuming there is such a thing) for killing people in some country you couldn't previously find on a map, you probably shouldn't go to war in the first place.

12:22 PM
Professor Coldheart said...

Guys, I'm going to feel bad about this in the morning, but Leonard's not defending war (in this instance). Leonard's not taking the other side of this argument. Not that there's really an argument. Our host has asserted things similar in tone to Leonard's comment countless times in the past. Don't let Leonard's continual, proud, unflinching wrongness about race, gender and class prejudice your vision here.

12:28 PM
Anonymous said...

After seeing this story in various forms sprayed (pun intended!) all over the internet today, I prayed - actually prayed - you would cover it, just so there would be someone out there who saw this for the insanity it was. Thank you. It is so comforting to not be the only crazy person in this sane world.

Maybe that's why the US is relying more and more on unmanned drones - while they sometimes kill women and children, the drones at least can't urinate on them and get Leon Panetta all hot and bothered.

12:33 PM
Montag said...

Hello! Hello! So every time--I just want to understand this, sir--every time a corpse is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the--

12:57 PM
Happy Jack said...

while they sometimes kill women and children

They have the sensitivity not to show us those pictures either.

1:05 PM
Anonymous said...

i heard that in the future, drone will be able to piss on corpses. not urine, per se, but like industrial waste.

1:09 PM
b-psycho said...

Nah, drones are up too high. They'll make drones shit on people instead.

1:58 PM
PR said...

..."one is holding a precision rifle"
Unfuckingbelievable! Remember when there were editors?

2:24 PM
Jack Crow said...
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2:24 PM
Jack Crow said...

I think the real worry would be an era of occupation which did not have corpse mutilation, cruelty, disrespect for the dearly departed, cultural ignorance, anomie, adrenaline murder sprees and a disregard for the feelings of the natives sufficient to provide for all the things warriors and soldiers are wont to do when seeking provisional entertainment.

I know there's a whole lot of shocked sentiment or cynical callousness going on on the subject, but truthfully if our lords and masters ever manage to breed and train up a perfectly behaved, respectful, culturally sensitive and gentlemanly kind, species or type of solider, we are well and truly fucked.

2:26 PM
carpworld said...

I am the walrus?

2:33 PM
Anonymous said...

I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a corpse is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the survivors?

3:09 PM
IOZ said...

No, like I said, Woo peed on the corpse.

3:16 PM
Anonymous said...

Maybe just used the corpses as a toilet and moved on.

3:40 PM
mistah charley, ph.d. said...

Brian said, Blessed are the cheesemakers, which the Magisterium informs us includes all involved in the manufacture and distribution of dairy products.

3:44 PM
la Rana said...

Jack Crow for the win.

4:36 PM
Eerily Lackadaisical said...

See - this is why Arianna's got an empire and all you've got is an Empire bodice, M'sieur.

While you're over here diddling about diddling, she's running pieces on the really important eternal questions:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/12/james-dean-gay-biopic_n_1202641.html

4:40 PM
Inkberrow said...

Possible titles for THE great Wars on Terror novel?

"The Thin Yellow Line"

"The Wands of War"

"The Naked and the Wet"

"Catch-#2"

"Shiverhouse-Five"

5:24 PM
Anonymous said...

so what we can't see are images for Bin Laden and Marine's genitalia. Can't wait to read Zlazo Zizek's take!

10:28 PM
Aeolus said...

You think that's bad-- The Daily Mail got all their footage and still photos from the "Live Leak" website....

12:12 AM
NutellaonToast said...

Those corpses really tied the room together.

12:31 AM
Mr.Fundamental said...

every time I read about Americas transgressions in the middle east I wonder why Al Qaeda/Angry Muslims/Our Chosen *Other* isn't doing more to kill more Americans. seriously. sooo one sided

9:23 AM
Al Qaeda/Angry Muslims/Our Chosen *Other* said...

Did I urinate on your corpses?

9:27 AM
Anonymous said...

ha. penis.

10:03 AM
Beth E. said...

http://www.clowncrack.com/2012/01/13/the-obscenity/

2:03 PM
LA Confidential Pantload said...

So everything would be jake if they'd peed on them when they were alive?

2:32 PM
LA Confidential Pantload said...

My theater prof back in the day told a pee-related anecdote about a play he went to in NYC. In the midst of the production, he heard a loud squabble in the balcony above, part of which was one aggrieved party pronouncing: "You're sorry? You say you're sorry? You're pissing on my date and you're sorry?"

2:36 PM
Anonymous said...

Those corpses really tied the room together.

8:00 PM
Anonymous said...

FUCK!

8:01 PM
Anonymous said...

Shut the fuck up, Nonny.

8:04 PM
antonello said...

What causes offense about pissing on the slaughtered dead — that it has crossed some sort of line? Or that it shows there is no line?

As Hannah Arendt pointed out, those who appeared to be sadists were weeded out from being part of the Einsatzgruppen. Why so, when this would have seemed the perfect place for them? For that very reason: it would have revealed to the average soldier what it meant to be doing what he did. It would have given the whole game away.

Warding off self-awareness is, as usual, the point. It's the same with not showing dick in the videos. Men in general don't like to see that: it makes them self-conscious. You shouldn't be inconvenienced by shaming thoughts while making speeches about shameful conduct.

The official line is that America is profoundly shocked by this exposure of unsoldierly behavior. All it takes is to read the comments on Yahoo New articles, for example, to see how far from true this is.

http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-marine-tape-wont-hurt-afghanistan-talks-020101467.html

http://news.yahoo.com/desecration-dead-old-war-itself-222846180.html

The nation, one is tempted to feel from those posts, comprises legions of armchair skullfuckers. One is also tempted to feel that the Army is well aware of this. Having it both ways: discarding bad apples for sake of the fastidious; displaying the apples, in all their wormy decay, for the gratification of the less fastidious. A few soldiers, it seems, will be punished. The rest, however, may benefit from public empathy.

Realpolitik: it isn't just for leaders any more.

3:42 AM
PO said...

Frankly, I wasn't shocked or offended by the story/image. I, as a soldier myself, understand the desire, even "need" to express utter disregard for your enemy. To minimize them. I GET it. However, I certainly saw the utter stupidity of doing it and recording it...AND THEN PUBLISHING IT ONLINE! The publication of the activity for the universe to see (instead of leaving it, perhaps, to the enemy alone) was counterproductive and plain stupid. The action itself is part o a long historical line of enemy dehumanization and minimization. The past has included beheading the enemy bodies and placing the heads on pikes, impaling the bodies and leaving them on display for the enemy, etc. Brutal, ugly, but understandable in context.

After all that, to worry about the flash of a PART of a wee-wee... I haven't actually viewed the image at any length or at any resolution either, but was the penises alone blurred out or did the piss stream also get blurred? There is room here for all kinds of hilarious absurdity.

4:54 PM
Howard said...

Did I urinate on your corpses?

11:59 PM

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