The Times threatens to become a drinking game. DRINK every time you see a story wondering what sort of aggressive, warlike actions Iran will take if we start bombing Iran. The Lady's ability to churn these things out, selfsame, with only the most minor variations in the ornamentation ("'Is 40 missiles on Tel Aviv nice?' the official asked, summing up the Israeli calculus. 'No. But it’s better than a nuclear Iran'"), is something to behold, a high-in-dietary-fiber regularity that suggests a ceaseless diet of grassy bullshit.
And yet you find it makes some people totally deranged, even people who love to hoist the jolly roger and proclaim the end of liberty in a second-rate food columnist's suggestion that the government regulate fatty foods and sugar. Well, I also regret that the government wants to stick its long nose into my salad bowl, but to read a do-gooder's crusade to confiscate my ranch dressing as an intolerable affront to the principle of individual autonomy while simultaneously declaring that it is morally imperative for the world's most aggressive expansionist state and its Club-Med airstrip to launch a devastating air war against a nation that has not attacked anyone because that nation's sixth most influential politician has made jingoistic agitprop a cornerstone of his permanent campaign . . . well, I would like to call it insane, but it is worse: it's stupid.
Crispin tries to mock some leftists-manqués because they "dearly love a theocracy as long as santorum isn't running it," but let me suggest that if you can't even convincingly make fun of your own straw men, then you have found a line of argument in need of immediate retirement. And yet the comparison is apt, because divining the ultimate malevolence of the Iranian regime from what Ahmedinejad says is very much like taking Candidate Rick's pronouncements as the direct expression of America's national soul. Ahmedinejad is not an absolute monarch; he isn't even a Speaker of the House. Treating him as a Machiavellian prince is odd.
It's all fine and well to proclaim that it's somehow intolerable--and let me ask you to consider the real meaning of that word and then ponder if it actually applies at all--for Iran to have The Bomb. And I actually happen to agree: it is no counterargument to say that America has the bomb; France has the bomb; Israel has the bomb; everyone has the bomb. Its existence itself is undesirable; therefore its existence anywhere is undesirable. But it in no way follows that those states in possession of this intolerable object possess the right, let alone the affirmative duty, to launch an aggressive war in order to prevent the commission of a sin that they themselves have committed tens, hundreds, and thousands of times over. I do not believe that Iran is developing a bomb; everything about their actions suggests a program of general nuclear research with just enough ambiguity to deter the type of attack we find our nation contemplating. Even if Iran were to possess a bomb, its only benefit would be precisely that same deterrence.
Iran is not some fictive evil empire; its rulers are not Mings the Merciless. It's a nation full of people trying to lead decent lives in spite of the corruption and madness of their state, just as America is a nation full of people trying to lead decent lives in spite of the corruption and madness of their state, just as all nations and all peoples are, in their own way, such. War is an unmitigated evil. I'm going to repeat myself here. Accepting (and I don't) that some wars, sometimes, are truly necessary doesn't dissolve the evil or absolve people or nations from their participation in them; they can never fully be atoned for or forgiven. And I am talking about, you know, fighting the Nazis! Invading some country for the hell of it, supporting that invasion because you find yourself incapable of mustering sufficient skepticism toward the reporting in the New York Times, for god's sake? Good lord, don't quit your day job.
Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Centrifugal State
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 204 Newer› Newest»My Dad had a very close friend named Stosh (Polish nick for Stan)
who actually went CO during the big one (WW II) and spent four years in Leavenworth.
They gave the CO's (aka political prisoners) an opportunity to do something for their country by eating uranium-laced foods to get a handle on the dosimetry required to protect the Manhattan Project workers.
So Stosh did his part for this country - fortunately he survived with only premature baldness and actually lived a long life which included fathering a healthy normal son late in life.
I turn Stosh's case over to the savants and idiot-savants for moral dissection here.
Should he have demurred, or was his rationale correct - that he might be helping save the lives of some workers in Oak Ridge who might otherwise have been over-dosed?
OH SNAP!
(1) Some wars are truly necessary. They are rare; in the modern world almost nonexistent.
(2) No, fighting the Nazis was not truly necessary for the USG.
(3) I disagree about Iran wanting the bomb. I do think they are trying to get one because USG has shown that the bomb is the only thing they respect.
(4) I agree with your overall analysis: they are not crazy. A nuclear Iran is, in a word, tolerable. Persians are an ancient civilization of sophistication and depth; they are not Arabs.
(5) Re: Crispin, I can't take a writer seriously who won't bother to capitalize. It shows contempt for the reader. I see no reason at all to read a writer who won't meet me halfway, or a tenth of the way, or really an inch away from his own laziness or whatever it is that impels him to write that way.
yeah leonard that's so annoying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkhzHQO7jY
I can't take Sartwell seriously because he's a fucking hack. A legacy hack at that.
I used to read Sartwell when he wrote for the New York Press (and I read the New York Press). He could be entertaining, but even then he was one of those libertarians (or anarchists, whatever) whose anti-leftism seemed more important to him than his anti-statism. He also seemed like one of those men - they're always men - who thought of himself as "a real character," and worked to live up to that self-image.
"Grass-roots progressives don't like Rick Santorum. Grass-roots progressives don't want to have a war with Iran. Therefore, there must be a good side to Rick Santorum and war with Iran. Oh wait. That is the good side!"
When I read this stuff I think he's got to be angling for a gig at the weekly standard or something. Or maybe Reason. He actually had the gall to ask "deter Israel from what?" in the comments.
@Leonard
"...because USG has shown that the bomb is the only thing they respect."
The USG? Even though they "are an ancient civilization of sophistication and depth; they are not Arabs." WTF you fucking fuckwit. Crawl back under your rock.
"they are not Arabs." No shit Sherlock. They are not even Americans, not even the USG, who are the only people who have ever dropped the bloody things on their fellow humankind. And innocent civilians at that.
Well, that's been simmering for a while. Glad you finally took it off the flame.
"Club-Med airstrip" is great.
leonard, .. the few times that i've looked over at crispin's writing i haven't cared for him , but for me the uncap. ,of my own .. has a nice flow.. . / and something of my last comment on the last post of the le bilboquet mackroken oddly fits in here as well.. .
"Iran is not some fictive evil empire...It's a nation full of people trying to lead decent lives in spite of the corruption and madness of their state"
Fuck, don't try to humanize them! They ain't persons. They jus a bunch a A-Rabs worshippin Muhammagod an livin under rocks an shit. Bombs away.
He's a college professor who gains insight into the world by the images he sees on CNN.
I think I now know what Wallace was getting at with that talk about pointy-headed intellectuals.
True, but was some dipshit on the Internet really worth the time?
Ah, dipshit's in your blogroll. Need to fix that.
[Nuclear Bomb's] existence itself is undesirable
I disagree. Forced the powers to reduce their conflicts to battles by proxies. Sucked for the vietnamese and koreans, fo' sure, but prevented the 3rd Everyone vs. Everyone War in a century.
not using capitals is lazy? wtf? maybe crispy has lost both of his pinky-fingers. that would make it difficult to capitalize. but seriously, who cares?
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So what other types of civilians are there, pray tell?
The Dull (ABomb lovin') Sycophant
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Iran is totally not Iraq, you fucking Bolsheviks. Notice the spelling, for instance.
oh .. sorry .. my comment is too small to see there at 1;07 . .. that was me throwing a pinky .. .
@anonymous 1:05
Guilty ones.
CAPITALIZE. this is not 'Nam, this is blogging. there are rules.
mon tag , remind me again about what it is that you do with architectural drawings ? .. . s'e said as s'e held 'er right hand up over the sauce above the blog roll below the not powered by goggle search.. to type because she can't read the comments here in follow up for some reason .. .
suck my lowercase ass.
leonard,
you gotta get a hobby. for your own good, mate. try woodworking or jogging, stamp collecting or sodomy. seriously, though, you gotta ease up.
your friend,
swm
anne, i read architectural and structural drawings and translate the information gleaned therein into a format that fabrication shops can use to manufacture structural steel components, i then present this information in the form of shop drawings. [sigh] birth, school, work, death.
,wood working, jogging ,stamp collecting ..and sodomy .. aren't they all kind of the same thing .. . ?
thank you mon tag, .. . i'd like to watch sometime,... she said as she went back out to her laundering walk in the rain.. .
Gays Swim, I have a hobby. It is commenting on blogs. IOZ's is one of the lucky ones so graced, and thus so are you. Isn't that nice? Perhaps you might explain why you believe I should ease up. If anything, I think I should crack down.
Anne, what you write is mostly nonsense to me or at best impressionistic. This is what you should expect when what you write violates grammar in every sentence in multiple ways. I am sure that to you, it does have some sort of appeal; just be aware that this is a very narcissistic idea of writing. I write to communicate with others. This is hard enough without me making it harder.
Even if you did capitalize, I doubt that would help much or at all, because as you say your style is for you. However, in not doing so you save me from having to figure that out. I can usually just skip your comments. So, thank you.
And also thanks to the other nonies and nyms who won't capitalize -- you guys also save me some reading.
Whatever happened to the Revolutionary Guard being allied with the Zetas, again?
leonard, .. fellow that i've never talked with before here .. ., what does this mean .. "This is what you should expect.. " ? / .. and i write to communicate with others .. ./ and where is the swimming .. i love to swim..,
@Leonard
Yeah, you communicated with me you fucking fuckwit. Now I'm communicating with you. Now that I know you're a just another American exceptionalist fuckwit with a septic mind I'll know from here on out to just skip over your verbal trots.
Aw, Christ. Look, I gotta agree with Leonard with regard to capitalization. Writing that uses punctuation and capitalization is easier to read. This isn't a personal preference; it has been demonstrated scientifically.
And like Leonard, I tend to skip comments in lowercase, because with all the crap people write on the Internet, I don't have time for people whose writing style demonstrates contempt for their audience.
E. E. Cummings (as even he would have written his name) was cool and fresh... in 1930. Nothing you've written in the comments section of a blog is worthy of comparison to Cummings' poetry. Learn to write properly if you want to be taken seriously, or even if you just want to be read.
lenny,
some of us anons, because we aren't white, dont have the necessary iq to capitalize.
and think about this: capitalizing is exactly what capital wants from us
i don't see what is communicated by a capital at the beginning of a sentence that isn't already communicated by the punctuation at the end of the prior sentence. goddamn people with their goddamn rules.
Leonard, do you have the same distaste for inarticulate people who get interviewed on television?
p., there is nothing of ."contempt.. . " ..about my writing .., more is missed in not hearing my tone than of my liking this odd punctuation,of writing this way .. and hoping that others are seeing something of what i am seeing in doing so .. .,and that it is my true voice , that i write as i speak .. . / and others do read .. of the little comments that i leave here ,.. and they write to me , of related to conversing by mail,.. as i've said before ..of the best (of good in nature ) and brightest .. .
C'mon fellas, Mr. Picador prefers capitalization because it's been scientifically proven to facilitate reading comprehension. So if you would care for him to read your comments, please capitalize and use proper punctuation. Besides, you're no E.E. Cummings!
See, there you go again Anne! Picador is not even going to bother reading your explanation since you can't even deign yourself to include one capitalized word or properly used form of punctuation!
And one knows that Science gets trotted out to adjudicate every fucking thing around here. It's, like, science!
god is dead; long live science, lol
i love you paul.. .
Oh Anne, we'd never make it. What, with your flagrant disregard for the rules of grammar and my need for order and organization.
super-bee triangulation: the problem is the lack of capital letters! no capitals = no content! dismissal beats the shit out of thinking!
crispy? among others he is a great totem for the notion of "poseur" with all it conveys. sometimes funny. I read him mainly because we share a hometown and I used to read his music reviews in the DC City Paper... nostalgia, not content.
there is a daily paper whose comment section i comment in fairly frequently using a different pseudonym than here at that newspaper i always write without punctuation or capitalization it is a stylistic affectation but if it offends you by all means skip whatever i have written in this way i may not read your comments either i wonder if we have a community of discourse here or just people who want to show off i miss fafblog
paul , i love order and organization, .. off to the fruit and beans stand with her list and pennies now .. .
i sOmetimes tHink tHat iF lEonard sUggested tHat iT iS a gOod iDea tO lOok bOth wAys bEfore cRossing tHe sTreet, yA'll wOuld iNsist tHat oNly fAscists lOok bEfore tHey cRoss tHe rOad...hands fluttering...walking in between raindrops...in Paris....
what / said anne.... //'
that last bit ** was a tear ~\
f'in capitalizists. so... shifty.
@anne - I love your comments. I was struck by one some days ago and meant to leave a comment to that effect - that I value your perceptions, and your willingness to engage with what people say here charms me completely. Many ways to experience and understand the world, and seems like a good idea to have some skill at several.
What, are you cockpinchers still angry at your first grade teacher for scolding you? You rebel by never capitalizing anything? Grow the fuck up. It's a stupid affectation by lazy fucks and poetasters. You and the "all caps" people should all be shot.
Well, I for one come here and positively hunt for Leonard's posts - he makes so many of you so very uncomfortable and none of you have bothered to clearly disagree with him since... well, they didn't do it very well, because I've forgotten.
And as I search for Leonard's posts, I enjoy how my search gets interrupted by anne's whimsy. One needs a degree of faith to put one's thoughts out there, like that. anne' bold whimsy (what a nice combo) more than makes up for the grammar.
As for the recent arrival of -nyms screaming "fuckwad," and little else ... /sigh. As a long time ioz reader, from back in the day when his posts got, at times, 0 comments, then later only the best comments; now to see this ... ahh, well. nony = skip/skim, I guess.
"It's a stupid affectation by lazy fucks and poetasters."
For a moment there I forgot that I was reading pseudonymous comments on a pseudonymous blog featuring GI Joe segments and yoga metaphors.
One more thought for anne:
I woke up this morning and my first thought was the pile of pennies on my nightstand (yen, actually), and what to do with them. Thanks for the idea. I think I'll get strawberries.
If reactionary appeals to the Nature of Things (Whitefuck, 1998) in lieu of any fucking political argument is what rocks your boat Russell, then yeah, Leonard is the man.
Offensively complacent doxa is all well and good, but raucous anons dropping f-bombs on your lawn isn't. Got it.
F-bombs not A-bombs!
Picador, what about that shit where they said people can understand writing where all the letters in each word were jumbled besides the first and last? Can't argue with science.
Montag, I think we have the same job.
Good piece, Monsieur. A little generous to Americans, especially when considering the quality of the agitprop to which they are subjected.
"While evidence suggests that Iran continues to make progress toward a nuclear weapons program, American intelligence officials believe that there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb."
It's predictable but infuriating when 'evidence' is brought up and the link is to the cute little history of La Bomba.
g'ddamnittohello.., .. yes she says to all of the cats ,hello ..as she crosses the road and goes walking , nice to see that someone remembered that i have .. hands fluttering ,and i don't walk between of the drops ,rain ..i wouldn't get my laundering done if i did that , .. and not really paris .. just something of france ..of mind ,
Enjoy yourselves now capitalizers, once mighty Iran conquers the world you'll all be speaking Persian--No more capitals!
Michael
@ Mathmos
Yes, well, how very pwoggy-minded you are, as if Leonard's talk actually kills people the way bombs do. No doubt you'll be squealing in a few months time about how this is the most. Important. Election. Evah.
I believe if you read carefully, Mathmos, you'll find the closest thing to a cri-de-coeur round these parts is "Blaaaaaawg!"
And I am a reactionary, so wouldn't it stand to reason that I enjoy Leonard? We just have the good, non-pwoggy sense to know that our talk amounts to nothing. You pwoggies, and your get-involved-ism, on the other hand ... Gotta rid the world of wrongtiousness, eh?
Must be exhausting ...
wait, there's no capitals in Persian???? Fuck this English bullshit then
, .. i sometimes get the feeling that i may be the only one that reads here a bit that is actually involved with issues ..out there/here.. in the streets ,i don't belong to any group ..just a do good in many ways .. , ..so last night i came in ,home,up to my flat here ...and an elderly wom'n must have made her way in with a neighbour that came in a few mins after me .. , i left my door unlocked because i would be going out again shortly , .. and went in to my chamber pot room,.. someone did an odd knock on my door ..then opened it and walk right in ..and down the hall to the tub and other room ...there i am ..sitting upon my chamber pot ..with this wom'n that just saw me at some gathering and followed me home apparently ..saying .."your a saint..an angel . . i needed to see you again ,may i talk with you ", . .. oH
you 're
Yeah, anne, we're all just armchair philosophers, and you with your flat, pennies, market stands, chamber pots, and other made up shit you've inexpertly cribbed from dimestore novels are "actually involved with issues."
This has gotten all Pirandello and shit up in this motherfucker. Come out with it: which one of you is actually "anne"?
Why is someone who lives in France collecting pennies? Shirley you can't use them for anything, now that that nazi currency has come into being.
it's interesting how IOZ uses religious language, values and ideas like "atoning" for the sin of war.
This is of course a certain type of religious morality. It is perfectly "rational" to wage war for certain reasons, and in fact, Enlightenment progress was predicated on violence and requires violence and war.
Progress and mass-murder/war/violence go hand-in-hand. This is something liberal Enlightenment rationalists don't seem to quite understand, and it would serve the acolytes of the New Atheists well to consider this point carefully in between their sneering at religion and religious morality.
Sniggering, not sneering.
@Russell
I said fuckwit, you fuckwad. Can't you read or remember or even acknowledge my original point? No, you just gotta hum your little (stillborn) hymn to posterity...who gives a shit?!
Russell = anonymous
Dear Friends
And now, Final Jeopardy, in the category Iran/Persia.
The answer is: He was President of the United States the last time Iran/Persia initiated a war of aggression.
Who was George Washington?
Qom on over baby
Whole lotta shakin' goin' on.
Rocky Rococo
Archvillain
IOZ, your suggestion that "fighting the Nazis" was somehow a different war than all the rest of the wars you critique is tragically in error. It suggests that, eighty years from now, a critic like you will suggest that blowing up New Atlantis isn't a good war--like the way the Great War Against Persia was a good war.
LRN2HISTORY.
(also, bwuck bwuck etc.)
@320
Monsieur is no fucking asshole atheist, mon cher. As moral/ religious thinking goes, his is staunch Jewish, with some Christian sympathies.
The Dull Sycophant
Actually, IOZ is a fucking asshole atheist, mon cher, but also a Christian with some staunch Jewish sympathies.
Dear Arka,
"Accepting (and I don't)" = stipulating for the sake of argument.
Love,
IOZ
of 1:03 in the a.m., if i sound like i'm coming from the dime to you , you'd better get your ears checked .. , love ,anne , not in france ,and pennies mean poor and that's okay .. ,
Well, I for one come here and positively hunt for Leonard's posts - he makes so many of you so very uncomfortable and none of you have bothered to clearly disagree with him since... well, they didn't do it very well, because I've forgotten.
I feel the same way about the IOZ tavern's DaVinci. He reminds me of the guy who throws snowballs at the weird HS kids who gather at a local park to don "armor" and cardboard swords, to play at being "medeival." Word is they're the smartest HS students in town, probably regularly talk using words with at least 4 syllables. Instead of throwing snowballs back, or chasing him with their "swords," they just keep playing at being "medeival" and complain to each other in polysyllabics about what a lout he is.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
True story about the local HS kids. I swear.
f reactionary appeals to the Nature of Things (Whitefuck, 1998) in lieu of any fucking political argument is what rocks your boat Russell, then yeah, Leonard is the man.
There it is. "reactionary."
It's like being a Jew in 1942 Germany.
"lout" has four letters, not four syllables.
GAWD Arka, ya blew that one.
jesus, Leonard, here I thought IOZ is an asshole fucking atheist.
In God I Trust Fund.
I really hate this new blogger comment thing.
Mr. Fun, that is asstute.
I don't like what you like because I don't like you. I like what you don't like because same. I win!
more dead famous political bloggers please.
sorry, "famous."
I like how CNN.COM got all defensive about it being Top News and added a link below the header "He Was Just On CNN." lulz.
K-Fox
Jew in Germany '42?!?
Strong words from a housenigger.
The Dull Sycophant
jesus, people. i thought we were here to make fun of crispy.
Yeah, good point Serracho. Before you know it, we'll be talking about anal sex and spurting cum.
And not a tear in anyone's beer for Andrew B?
For shame, for shame.
Msr., you are refused access to such rhetorical ploys. Those are only available for people who are not, in fact, Hank Azaria posting under a pseudonym.
Cuddles,
~HA
P.S. Rob, no I didn't; it was only some light petting.
i miss fafblog
Most sensible comment here in months.
Ah, the call to Eden. If only we get could back to that perfect paradise, ever warm in the womb, always connected to mother's calories.
Sorry, nony--someone's gotcha with the forceps. Time to blink your way into That Cruel World.
In another month/year/generation, someone like you will be whining about how they miss IOZ's board. And how a candy bar used to cost only a nickel.
I too miss Fafblog.
Also, Monsieur, I believe you said your boyfriend had good taste. Could you get him to do some guest posts on music and books, since you've been slacking?
Suggestively,
J
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/gallery/michelle_obama_fashion/?p1=Bottom_Inside_links
When did Arka starting to rule the roost here, dudes?
Speaking of uterine issues, as High Arka is, I am much impressed by Rush Limbaugh's call for gang rape of that uppity law student whore who wants her birth control pills included in her health insurance. It makes it clear that we're not really talking about freedom of religion, are we?
As an attempt to cleanse the palate, may I suggest a song from the 1969 Steve Miller Album Your Saving Grace, Baby's House?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqGZQzMemY
The piano solo is by Nicky Hopkins.
Is there a link to the audio where Rush calls for the gang rape of that loose whore from Georgetown who can't afford $9 birth control pills?
http://glpiggy.net/2012/02/29/a-birth-control-charade/
arka rules because the rest of you are inelegantly generic.
Generic inelegance is just as effective as the name brand stuff at a fraction of the price. Stop pushing the agenda of Big Inelegance(copyright and trademark symbols inserted if I cared to actually look up the codes for em)
No it's because she's a tiresome, wanky bully with a fairly banal point of view who thinks multiple comments saying the same thing constitutes a "win."
i'll put it this way. there are only a few personalities here that register (in my mind) as "personal caricatures". everyone else sorta disappears into "category caricatures".
leonard, but not for what he writes so much as what most everyone else thinks of him.
e.l., for similar reasons. (this is not a compliment.) but also, i know who he is. (sorta.)
anne, for her unique affectations.
arka, for a similar reason. (this is not a criticism.)
inkberrow, for a traditionally conservative perspective.
everyone else is fairly easily (if not altogether neatly) pigeonholed: lebowski quoters, libs/pwogs, a few "(typically male) men" and, of course, the anons.
malcontents
Strong words from a housenigger.
This, I am because of... what, exactly? Your projections onto my posts? Surely not because of my actual life and deeds -- whiff goes your bat as you swing mightily and strike nothing. Because you don't know diddle-y-doo-doo about me, and thus are forced to project caricatures.
Well done.
"lout" has four letters, not four syllables.
Did I type "exclusively 4 syllables"?
Nugatory should be your response.
' lander , affectations ? , the flutter of my hands and mind .. is real ..not pretend , they are a side effect ,one of a few , .. of the deformity in my belly that i was born with .. ,
Yes, ye lofty corporate water-carrier Massa-wannabee, who can be serviced solely by AMA trained medical doctors.
.
Jew in 1942 Germany, indeed.
.
Housenigger.
.
The Dull Sycophant
Here Anne - this is what you've been trying to say ... it's all in here ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmutf-nkCxQ&feature=related
Here's the man himself doing the song without the English subtitles ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmpeKH2mpH0&feature=related
i've only looked at the first vid. / of what i'm trying to say where eerily ? .. . and i'm never looking back in that way ,always still in the middle of something .. . / and what is the t of this by the sea,lake place of where i am doing in the middle of q .. . , if i was looking at the right vid. ,
Most annoying couple in history:
anne + Eerily
re nonny@ 9:35am
and ANOTHER Pavlovian dog salivates on cue!
do I know how to ring that bell or what?
I didn't know that you were a couple...just that you were annoying.
anne - you can't write about anything without looking back ... someone could take your cafes and fruit stands and flowers and fluttering and work them into the song as new lyrics and no one would know the difference ..
.. yes the beans are flowers .. my love .. .
puppylander, yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
puppylander expired years ago...it's just an echo
crispin is y'alls straw man.
what's good about proliferation? just witness the proliferation of comments above and how people cravenly carve turf for themselves even when there's absolutely nothing at stake.
The nuclear genie is not going back in the bottle, so, please, no more wishes.
Obviously they weren't listening to the Dude's story
Eerily, can you ever, like, not be a condescending head patting prick towards anne, or is it stipulated as mandatory somewhere?
Another IOZ post, another skirmish in the never ending war between Nony Army and the Unread Bloggers Brigade. Wake me when it's over.
The Nony Army's kicking ass.
nony 5:21 - condescending? head-patting?
I'm the only one here who really understands her ...
@451
And what's wrong with posessing the tool that'll turn the 2nd armored into a blob of molten metal?
If we're incapable of controlling the Empire, what's wrong with people who do? U jealous?
The Dull Sycophant
Steve? Wake up! Wake up, man! You're missing the donkey show!
Is that cos she's one of your online personalities?
Take note of the common antilife tendency to view any disagreement as inextricably linked to all other things which stand in "opposition" to one's viewpoint. This is the "black and white" or "with us or against us" error that so many American liberals, including George Lucas, like to pretend they understand.
When someone stands against them, it's impossible to imagine that anything meritorious is against them. Instead, it's part of a unified conspiracy. In this case, all the voices of opposition are imagined to coalesce into a single wacko entity. Instead of having to address this conglomerate's viewpoint, it's easier to throw apples at the presumed fact that all the IDs are the same "person." Whether or not it's true is beside the point, as long as the ragnarist can believe that it is.
Ahh, those silly sock-puppets! Why bother listening to what they (or "her" or "him" or "it") have to say? They're clearly ridiculous, because they're all really the same person. Bombs away!
I'm surprised at you, H-A. Don'y you know that accurate analysis of web psychosocial dynamics is decidely unhip. The main goal of IOZ's coterie is to stay brittle - that's why you'll always be an outsider here ...
Say what you like, they're still more reasonable than the last Latter-day Saints board that banned this one.
Sigh. If but my flesh could break apart into the linin to bind them. Drink with me to days gone by; sing with me the songs we knew.
The last LDS board?
Well if that's not damning with faint praise, I don't know what is.
They're probably all fainting away from it ...
Jesus fuck, would you babbling narcissists just SHUT THE FUCK UP. Insanely boring and maniacally relentless, what an unbeatable combination. Spend more time posting on your own fucking blogs where you can be as logorrheic as you want.
@823:
O my goodness - CAPITALS!
I think capitals are so vituperative, don't you ?
Seriously, you stupid, attention-starved dick - you and all your alter egos can post whatever irrelevant stupid songs and poems you want at your own blog. I'm sure anyone who gives a runny shit can find the way there if interested. Fuck off with a quickness.
This blog... Alls I can see is overeducated shitheads fleshing out their barking dog/braying jackass creds. Arf for me, baby. Arf for me.
Wait, you mean Anonymous is more than one person?!
as one of the anons, i can attest to writing only 2 prior comments on this blogpost.
(but, maybe i have multiple personalities and dont remember when i posted the other ones anonymously.)
if anne had a bloog . i'd read it , .. . said .. . .
Jesus H. Christ, Eerily you make me sick! I come here to read political ranting, not to read your political ranting!
Okay, I'm confused here. Who exactly am I supposed to be? Let's try a standardized format.
Question 1 (choose as many as apply). High Arka is also the following user IDs:
a) anne
b) Eerily Lackadaisical
c) NutellaonToast (and associated variations on hazelnut themes)
d) robpayne
e) Various forms of "Anonymous"
f) Leonard
g) Other (fill in blank __________)
Question 2 (choose only one). The answer to Question 1 above matters because:
a) I don't want to think about the things that [my answer(s) to Question 1] say(s), so it's easier to focus on the person delivering the message.
b) It's disingenuous to post on the internet without a verifiable ID (Note: you may not select this answer if you have used "Anonymous," or any derivation thereof, at any time on the internet, without filling out Hypocrisy Subform B-6 and submitting in triplicate with your exam results).
c) I read IOZ's comments for their insightful quality, and every poster besides [my answer to Question 1] consistently exemplifies this level of quality.
Answers due by tonight.
I don't know how many comments I've left under this anonymous pseudonym. Not as many as I've left under the anonymous misnomer. It's not like I'm paying any attention.
arka , h , what connect did you have to commenting ... of latt' er day ..up to her lovely breasts kiss..of ' maher'film caught .. saints ... . ?
eerily.. . sweet .. what did you delete .. ..said in that other way rhythm rhyme .. .
Jesus. Alright.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/g5v13k7n6145063r/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21893817
http://www.stcsig.org/usability/topics/readability.html
Schriver, Karen in Dynamics in Document Design, page 274:
"When text is set in all capital letters, reading speed is slowed about 13 to 20 percent. Reading speed is optimal when uppercase and lowercase letters are used. When extra emphasis is needed, bold has been found to be a better cue than uppercase."
p.jesus , .. . "because she can't read the comments here in follow up for some reason .. "now , of the last few days .. quote from the heavenly above .. .of no links .. .
i am several people myself.
tag,not my of mon , ..i'm just one .. .
I wish I were a sock puppet. Then I wouldn't have to make so many decisions.
Picador, you're outing yourself as a capitalist stooge with your efficiency talk. As if enraged nonies use all caps to better facilitate communication. They are clearly artistes, making their mark on the good Monsieur's wall, as are all our wonderfully punctuationally challenged interlocutors.
anne, you might find it rewarding to at least eliminate the commas you place between words and ellipses.
For example, instead of saying:
the wind carried me , .. away
you might say:
the wind carried me...away
Instead of freeing yourself from the constraints of grammar by eschewing the rules, you're using grammatical flak in such a way as to make you more of a verbal cyborg, not less.
The very bonds you're trying to escape have, ironically, worked themselves around your words like the chains of Jacob Marley.
Also, how come no one's taken the quiz? I'm just trying to sort out who I'm being accused of being.
And how many Anonymi are there? Are you all just IOZ being cute, or are some of you real people? It's very easy to adopt a designation for the course of the third Act, so that we can all tell who's dying in what order before the end.
(IOZ, your flowers and danish are waiting stage right, and the guy wants his $50, but he can wait 'til after if you'll give him a signed 8x10.)
arka, .. you'd need to give me a suggest like that from something i wrote .. . of the commas .. . / and you didn't say what you were doing on the latter day .. whatever it was ..of commenting there ,of my questioning you on that . .. ? did you grow up in something of that setting i wondered , you show signs of something similar to someone that i've talked with in the past that had some of the same quirks in the way they write as you ..
Which setting would that be?
As to grammar, here's what you wrote:
arka, .. you'd need to give me a suggest like that from something i wrote .. . of the commas .. .
Commas should not precede ellipses. So, instead of putting it this way:
"arka, .. you'd need to give me a suggest like that from something i"
you might try this:
"Arka, you'd need to give me a suggestion like that from something I"
Capitalizing the lone "I," as well as proper names, provides a subtle cue to the reader as to the relationship between the symbols "I" or "Arka" and the entity you're referring to. Lacking those cues, your words can be figured out, but with much more difficulty.
An ellipses, which can indicate an incomplete thought, is three periods together, like so: ...
It's not three periods broken apart, like so: .. .
or
. ..
You can indicate deep thought without using ellipses between every parcel of words. All communication is incomplete in the sense that it doesn't convey everything about you, or even everything you feel on any given subject, but you don't need to use ellipses to show that you are more than your sentence.
they are not ellipses, .. . but something of a suggest of something else .. of my being physically disabled .. . ,
You might find it easier to express that using words, or visual art. You could link us paintings or drawings. Grammatical markers are tools that can help make words more understandable; using them to convey a strictly visual message, like words mixed with visual art, will not work as well. For comparison, picture an evangelist speaking in tongues to convey both (1) an expression of faith, and (2) directions to a restaurant across town.
(1) might work, but (2) is highly unlikely to work.
Fuck, Akra, if you don't enjoy deciphering Anne, don't do it. Stop being some douche yelling at her for using dots in a manner that defies convention. Who's the fucking nihilist here?
high a., .. i am an artist , that is what i do for a living , when i say that i'm .. occupying france.. . i'm meaning that that's where my art goes , .. swims , .. ,not where i live .. ./those lit' pics that you see by my name are watercolouring ,drawing ..and other painting from my flip bk films .. . stills
Hey Arka, since you have an explanation for everything why don't you explain to us why you are such a jerk.
And I like Anne's comments a lot more than I like your snotty know it all drivel. She makes more sense than you do anyway.
And to the bean brain that keeps telling others to shut up and die. You’re a punk who hasn’t lived long enough to know what death is or how it affects people’s lives. Twit.
rob and Nutella, if you read above, you might see anne asking this one for suggestions, which were then provided. If you have anger at people who have gotten angry at anne, you're directing it at the wrong target.
anne, if you enjoy writing that way, please continue. Your flouting of grammar will make it very difficult for even those who would otherwise agree with you to understand what you're getting at. Look at this one--putting careful thought into long explanations, and trying to answer questions and help people, tends to make many people just as furious as do your broken ellipses. Witness the internet tough guys above.
When you've never been parented well, or treated with true compassion, it can be difficult to believe that there are actually humans out there who have a genuine empathic concern for you. So, when someone tries to help you, the natural reaction is suspicion and anger, because they discount the possibility that someone really cares.
Climb down off your cross, Arka, we could use the wood.
The Ballad of Davy Crockett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAVN_n0PljQ
and so ioz's comment thread becomes a bastard offshoot of an iowa writer's workshop, complete with the shoddy psychoanalysis.
thank you so much, mp, for giving me an excuse to post this link:
http://lackadaisicals.blogspot.com/2011/10/poem-for-anne-but-very-brief-one.html
(and thereby tick-off about 40 assorted nonnie's)
Meanwhile, in case you're wondering where our host has been, he's busy stitching a window flag for his car. It's going to read:
OberLinSanity!
I haven't been parented well but my sock puppets have been!
hey arka, instead of capitalizing "I" use we instead. it makes us feel less lonely
...
and anne, never stop
U guys mind if I just take a leak in the corner here?
nonny@2:25pm
Go right ahead nonny - take a leak on me.
Well - no I don't mean "on me" ... I mean "on me".
Like:
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/reefermadnessthemoviemusical/takeawhiffonme.htm
HA, why are you so evangelical about everything? Take a fucking pill for your paranoia and calm down.
Criticizing others for caring about something very much, and for trying to fix something that seems impossible to fix, may be commonplace, but it's not a good idea. The high doesn't last.
It's a lot of fun to enjoy incisive critiques of tyrants, which IOZ does very well--that's why this one is here. But once we gather here, many of us take the opportunity of community to vent frustrations by insulting one another's traits and viewpoints. You'll find no shortage of camaraderie if you want to spend your time dogpiling the currently unpopular style, or just ghost in the background and occasionally agree that IOZ's critiques are spot-on--which they almost always are--but there's something greater out there that we could all share through this connection.
I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.
The wisdom we can draw from this is that things currently popular or unpopular might not always be that way. It might, a hundred years from now, be your "grandchild" or your "perspective" or your "style" being torn down. The high truly will not last--for you. Some others will enjoy it later, while most others will be on the receiving end in various ways.
This one is happy to discuss politics, which is a better purpose for our gathering here than insulting one another. Please join, if you would like. Instead of noting the flaws in the various messengers, we might discuss the topic IOZ introduced, and things which flow naturally from it.
O hyperbole! O hypocrisy! O something else!
Matthew 25:40
New International Version (©1984)
IOZ,
Please post something new before High Arka succumbs to the fumes from sniffing his own ass.
OK, that tears it. Arka must be an actual relative of Charley's. Same hippy-dippy interminable rambling, but not quite so much of a burnout.
Matthew 16:4. Ye have been judged unworthy, and will be doomed to read Arka and Eerily until the Internet breaks.
At moments such as this, High Arka, it is good to remember how a classy whiner whines, e.g. Cassisus, the greatest whiner of them all:
"Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world
Like a Colossus; and we petty men
Walk under his huge legs, and peep about
To find ourselves dishonourable graves.
Men at some time are masters of their fates:
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings. "
http://www.online-literature.com/shakespeare/julius_caesar/3/
Which begs the question, did the over-dramatized Caesar in Shakespeare's pulp want what he actually knew was coming to him?
At times like these, when the inquisition is in full swing, it's interesting to contemplate whether, say, the women of Salem (or the reformist Jews in Rome) had it easier. Sure, burning is no fun, but it's at least a real, definitive answer, which doesn't pay back in years of horrid memory and rejection. Granted, it's still fun to be here, but that's food for thought.
Now that IOZ is temporarily sidelined, perhaps the pressure will be off to wrap things up before he provides a new subject of generalized interest. Let's discuss something important: how can we help the next generation, and the dwellers in the world of our successors, learn to not abuse one another? What can we do to help them not kill and hurt to gain satisfaction?
Bobby Payne, I snack on danger and dine on death. Shut up and die, you clod.
"What can we do to help them not kill and hurt to gain satisfaction?"
You're forgetting your Zorba there ... remember when he asks the Boss why do things happen like the villagers stoning the Widow?
And the Boss says he doesn't know.
And Zorba says, "what's the use of all your damn books, then?"
And the Boss says, "they record the anguish of those who don't know the answers to questions like the one you just asked"
That's about all anyone can do chez IOZ - record their anguish.
I prefer to play the fool ...
Well, we all know which you think is worse. I can't imagine a person whinging with more self-referential pathos than you manage to summon with every post, and I doubt the anonomi are actually hunting you. And emotional suffering has no limit, right? The soul cannot opt for non-existence. Some might think you're enabling your tormenters, but you know better. If someone, somewhere thinks you're a moron, how can you be happy?
And since you brought up those poor broads of yore, I have a question. All good liberals, the victors of the modern world, believe that the witches of Salem got a raw deal. Yet all here just know that modern society is no less misogynistic than they were, we just disguise it better, mainly from ourselves. It's easy to imagine that this is the same thing as crackers thinking we're post-racial because of BHO and whatnot, that we're paragons of virtue compared to those dirty slave owners. Yet, what are all those stories but victors' history? Why should they be given any more credibility than the news? Perish the thought. Our ancestors were fools and liars to a man (can't be sure about the women). Everyone knows this.
Also, if that passage is begging a question at all, it ain't that one. Too bad dogs don't blog.
As for the good old whaddooweedoo, encourage your kids to learn a skill that will be useful to themselves and their neighbors (learn it with them as a bonus), not a boss man.
(Do you mean "whining" or "winging"? This one will assume the former, but there's an internally consistent explanation for the latter; just checking.)
Personal insults, or insults directed at all humans who have come before, do not need to be a part of this. Presume that this one knows how disgusted you are by the discussion of dramatic topics in a world that is supposed to be awful and soulless--and one where domesticated, surgically-altered child-substitute canines exploited by filially destitute homosexual couples are wiser than humans.
Being crude to a single woman is a finer example of misogyny than any grand "radical" scheme you can name. Asking the bandwagon to stop group-hating has little likelihood of success, anymore than when this one asked the Mormons or the Baptists to explain why the invisible sky man cared so desperately about what they did with their genitals. Yet, here we are anyway. Not yet totally dead.
Perhaps you might recognize a similarity between your own behavior toward this currently unpopular one, and a time when you were the unpopular one among a majority that knew you were full of nonsense. Why didn't they listen? Why did they keep attacking you personally rather than focusing on the subject at hand?
Can you answer those same questions, then turn them inward?
It's often funny to make fun of the witch, and you'll rarely find a lack of support.
Does being a woman mean one automatically "has kids"? That's a rather insulting judgment to pass. You might've asked this one, first, rather than assuming that this one "had kids." Why not suggest instead, "Get into the kitchen and cook up something nice" or "stop frowning if you want to avoid wrinkle lines"?
What a sad, token "feminism."
Arka has all the answers, routinely deprecates fellow Americans for their ignorance, but has apparently never heard of whinging before.
(Oh, forgiveness; if it came from a native British-English speaker, no worries. Carry on with the belittling.)
Your little personality cult is powerless, know-it-all ranting next to the Stephanie Meyer people. Bow down when they come to YOUR town. Oh, and don't forget the Obama people. They completely own you.
...or the Gloxords from a few galaxies over, who have adherents in the trillions of trillions. You and all your fellow fans, Anon, are but tiny, unimportant blurbs to them.
Rhetorical point being now over, we turn to the literal. The bandwagon approach isn't such a good idea. Momentarily satisfying, but it pays the reaper no dividends. Honor and truth can neither be purchased nor voted up by the mob.
Grandmother, what big teeth you have...
Heeding your call to empathize, I realized something that is perhaps obvious that explains your need to portray yourself as a modern day Perpetua. I enjoyed those threads where I was unpopular. People like being the center of attention. To modify Caligula: let them hate me, so long as they're thinking about me.
I'm no different, but at least there was a real disagreement there. You're just concern trolling the tone of a commentariat, and it collectively resents the attention whoring and hysterics (and don't you dare betray your bias by acting like a man can't be guilty of those things). For example:
"Does being a woman mean one automatically "has kids"?"
Why would having kids restrict the subject to women? Does the phrase "He has a kid" sound odd to you? Let me shatter that stereotype and say I am a man and I have a kid. Progress!
I recommend you spend some time reading this guy:
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/11/a_generational_pathology.html
gabe,
thanks for that link. interesting blog.
I found it a few weeks ago, and the archives are going to get me fired.
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/11/the_terrible_awful_truth_about_1.html
I think the author is Dr. Thomas More from Love In the Ruins.
i just lost 2 hours. that is some fun reading.
the post on the 98% was brilliant.
With hope, Mr. Ruth, your confession has made you feel better. Your link was very interesting, and perhaps more people will learn about those things, though most already understand the economics of it, at some level.
The rest of what you said was a personal attack against an internet ID. I.e., "You're only here talking because you're a narcissist and you enjoy being group-insulted." Which is the equivalent of telling a rape victim that she asked for it--she went down the dark street in the short skirt because she really wanted to take it from those six 50 year old bikers with hairy ass cracks.
Not so. A desire to help people--to selfishly provide for a better world for all in the long run--which is as yet undimmed by mass hatred, is not necessarily narcissism. And the traditional definition for narcissist applies, anyway, to every American who does not meet the traditional definition for depressed. And applies partially to many of the depressed ones, too. We're all drugged; well, duh. We'd all like to improve our lots, but sometimes feel that things are bad and hopeless. Duh. Have we just summed up seven years of graduate school and residency?
The picking apart of this one's intellect is an interesting exercise, rather like the cats toying with mouse intestines. If you enjoy it that much, it's fine to continue, but you might find it more useful to use direct quotes, and explain why this one's viewpoints are so offensive/ridiculous/etc., instead of relying on the "everyone knows" knowledge that Arka sux.
This forum is rather a "crabs in the bucket" metaphor, or "rats in a cage" (cue SP), where, in the absence of being able to do anything about Obama, many of us spend our time insulting one another over perceived slights. If you want a classic case to study, critique the whole group; not whoever happens to be the unlucky victim of cannibalism at the time.
All of our lofty understandings of the terrible tyranny of Obama are so much hypocritical nothing, when this is the best society we can form among ourselves. For shame.
As was once said, never ask at whom the chimp smirks--he smirks at you. All of you. Because even those many years ago, he knew that this was the best you could offer.
...heehee! Mr. Ruth, this one just got it. Thank you!
/slaps forehead
How did it take me so long?
It was worth every minute. Thanks again.
The Gloxlords always enter to the sound of Glockenspiels. Sometimes I think its the doorbell.
I love it best of all when a new loudmouthed troll claims to be one of "us." (Pro-tip: it's obvious you are operating multiple sock puppet names when one troll enters immediately upon another leaving. Feigning conversations with your sock puppets is sick, and you should seek assistance.)
Wait, wait, the whole "everyone is mad at Arka for trying to help anne with grammar" thing was supposed to have at least removed the accusation that Arka was anne and/or whoever was mad at Eerily Eating Nutella While Payne Faps.
Or is it not this one? Who the hell is supposed to be someone else around here? Not only can this one not figure out who is commenting, given the number of anonymous posters, but neither can it be determined who is being accused of being a sock puppet in the first place. Why didn't you just complete the quiz? It was there for a reason!
You ain't never had a friend like IOZ.
@anne of days ago, about LDS, this one went there for the same reason this one is here. To employ one of IOZ's favorite analogies (when in Rome, right?), this one made first contact with a hostile tribal culture in the attempt to learn things from, and help, some of its members. Like all violations of IOZ's directive, it was doomed to failure, but made for a crappy, if popular, show in the meantime.
The no revoir part was dramatic, but then, like so many Santorum quotes, it just got to be too big a target not to keep hurling rotten apples.
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